Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November

[kev]

I know that everyone is climbing into Foster. The cracks were there at the World Cup. They need a rethink. We have to find a way to win the contact and that means different players.

[Victor Meldrew]

The only good thing I can take from this season is that it's better we fuck up now rather than in 2022 & 2023. You get flashes of good stuff but it's balanced by too much seriously stupid play and and at times what seems like blind panic.

Can understand wobbles with team building and new styles but the basics have gone to shit. Perhaps some smarter rugby brains than me can see Fozzie developing some new master plan and tactics, but I sure as hell can't.

[Anonymous]

@chimoaus said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

Foster P5 W2 D1 L2 Winning percentage 40%

Is that better or worse than his record with the Chiefs?

[Derpus]

Please continue to pick Jordie Barrett, forever. Thanks.

[Hooroo]

Aussies will smash them next week as Argentina will be drinking litres and litres of red wine

[Kirwan]

@kev said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

I know that everyone is climbing into Foster. The cracks were there at the World Cup. They need a rethink. We have to find a way to win the contact and that means different players.

Because Foster was there for the WC rot and has just carried on the mistakes. Ardie at 8 for example.

[Kiwiwomble]

@hydro11 said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

@kev said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

@Kirwan Ardie is the wrong number 8 for any team that matches us. Hoskins should start now. We have lots of 6s just need to pick the best.

IMO Ardie actually played quite well. He definitely wasn't the worst player out there and had a lot of energy for the final try. He just didn't offer what we needed tonight.

He played well...but he played like a 7...so we had one tackling 7 and one running 7...and were missing an 8

[Kirwan]

@Kiwiwomble said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

@hydro11 said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

@kev said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

@Kirwan Ardie is the wrong number 8 for any team that matches us. Hoskins should start now. We have lots of 6s just need to pick the best.

IMO Ardie actually played quite well. He definitely wasn't the worst player out there and had a lot of energy for the final try. He just didn't offer what we needed tonight.

He played well...but he played like a 7...so we had one tackling 7 and one running 7...and were missing an 8

And a hard running six....

[Derpus]

@hydro11 this is classic Hoopcock thinking. They were both the best flankers around and both left it all out there but it never ever fucking worked post 2015.

[broughie]

@hydro11 You can never doubt his intensity but he like the rest of our forwards were monstered.

[kev]

@Kirwan he has the license to drop players now. He needs to. Be interesting to see.

[akan004]

I hope

@Kirwan said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

@kev said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

@hydro11 always starts with winning contact.

Loose forwards got monstered in the first half.

It's amazing how we could see that Frizell and to a lesser extent Ardie don't have the required physically for test rugby, yet Foster, Plumtree and co can't.

@Kirwan said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

@Kiwiwomble said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

@hydro11 said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

@kev said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

@Kirwan Ardie is the wrong number 8 for any team that matches us. Hoskins should start now. We have lots of 6s just need to pick the best.

IMO Ardie actually played quite well. He definitely wasn't the worst player out there and had a lot of energy for the final try. He just didn't offer what we needed tonight.

He played well...but he played like a 7...so we had one tackling 7 and one running 7...and were missing an 8

And a hard running six....

Please no more Frizell from now on. SR is his level.

[Frank]

I am 100% supporting the Argies in 2 weeks.
I hope we lose and lose badly.
I want Foster gooooooooooooooooone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[hydro11]

It's not as simple as putting Sotutu in for Ardie though. Ultimately it comes down to how the coach wants the team to play and the instructions they give.

[Victor Meldrew]

@Duluth said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

@Duluth said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

Cane/Sotutu/Ioane

Savea on the bench

Ahem..

I've had problems with Akira's attitude in the past, but he played OK last week and I liked his attitude when he took one for the team when he was taken off early.

Def. deserves another chance.

[Kiwiwomble]

@akan004 said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

I hope

@Kirwan said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

@kev said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

@hydro11 always starts with winning contact.

Loose forwards got monstered in the first half.

It's amazing how we could see that Frizell and to a lesser extent Ardie don't have the required physically for test rugby, yet Foster, Plumtree and co can't.

@Kirwan said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

@Kiwiwomble said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

@hydro11 said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

@kev said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

@Kirwan Ardie is the wrong number 8 for any team that matches us. Hoskins should start now. We have lots of 6s just need to pick the best.

IMO Ardie actually played quite well. He definitely wasn't the worst player out there and had a lot of energy for the final try. He just didn't offer what we needed tonight.

He played well...but he played like a 7...so we had one tackling 7 and one running 7...and were missing an 8

And a hard running six....

Please no more Frizell from now on. SR is his level.

Maybe the fern has just got a pet punching bag....

[Kirwan]

People were complaining about mythical Bok and England concerns, but this was what we were worried about. A physical side making few mistakes.

[chimoaus]

@hydro11 said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

It's not as simple as putting Sotutu in for Ardie though. Ultimately it comes down to how the coach wants the team to play and the instructions they give.

Would love to know what they were for today's game because fuck me that was some of the dumbest rugby I have seen in a long time.

[Kirwan]

@Kiwiwomble said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

@akan004 said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

I hope

@Kirwan said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

@kev said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

@hydro11 always starts with winning contact.

Loose forwards got monstered in the first half.

It's amazing how we could see that Frizell and to a lesser extent Ardie don't have the required physically for test rugby, yet Foster, Plumtree and co can't.

@Kirwan said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

@Kiwiwomble said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

@hydro11 said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

@kev said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

@Kirwan Ardie is the wrong number 8 for any team that matches us. Hoskins should start now. We have lots of 6s just need to pick the best.

IMO Ardie actually played quite well. He definitely wasn't the worst player out there and had a lot of energy for the final try. He just didn't offer what we needed tonight.

He played well...but he played like a 7...so we had one tackling 7 and one running 7...and were missing an 8

And a hard running six....

Please no more Frizell from now on. SR is his level.

Maybe the fern has just got a pet punching bag....

Reiko has that covered

[akan004]

@Kiwiwomble said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

@akan004 said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

I hope

@Kirwan said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

@kev said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

@hydro11 always starts with winning contact.

Loose forwards got monstered in the first half.

It's amazing how we could see that Frizell and to a lesser extent Ardie don't have the required physically for test rugby, yet Foster, Plumtree and co can't.

@Kirwan said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

@Kiwiwomble said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

@hydro11 said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

@kev said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

@Kirwan Ardie is the wrong number 8 for any team that matches us. Hoskins should start now. We have lots of 6s just need to pick the best.

IMO Ardie actually played quite well. He definitely wasn't the worst player out there and had a lot of energy for the final try. He just didn't offer what we needed tonight.

He played well...but he played like a 7...so we had one tackling 7 and one running 7...and were missing an 8

And a hard running six....

Please no more Frizell from now on. SR is his level.

Maybe the fern has just got a pet punching bag....

He also has a lot of support tbf.