Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November

[voodoo]

@voodoo said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

@Machpants said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

@Rapido said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

Wow. Congratulations Argentina. Never would have picked this, with the covid impacted build up for them.

I think it was good for them. It was like aRWC build up, sad I mentioned pre match. A lot of time together, a couple of minutes games to warm up, then an ambush Vs ABs

Assuming all 12 of them made good recoveries. The NBA experience was the total opposite, the guys that caught it never quite recovered,Westbrook a great example. Wonder there is something in the way Covid hits your aerobic/aerobic efforts.

Actually, fuck this. Calling Covid an advantage to them is a massive cop out (not saying anyone has actually said its the reason they won).

It was a huge disruption to them, their training and their prep. Conversely we had a fine prep, had well rested guys this week, and 2 massive mental reasons to get up having lost last week and having never lost to the steak-eaters.

[taniwharugby]

all this talk of Hart and Mains, I reckon Fozzie got his hands on Mains gameplan from the 1995 RWC...pass it to #11

sadly 14 runs for 65m showed we didnt create the space for him to run with as well.

[Tim]

This reminds me of 1999 through 2003. When the "powder puff forwards" stereotype was accurate.

[Chester Draws]

@Tim said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

This reminds me of 1999 through 2003. When the "powder puff forwards" stereotype was accurate.

Back then we were not at our best in Super Rugby too though, partly for that reason.

Now we carve up consistently in SR. NZ forwards seem strong enough in general.

I reckon a change of coaching staff and suddenly our "powder puff forwards" will be strangely able to do the business.

[Tim]

@Chester-Draws Super Rugby depth, especially in SA and Oz, has been pretty weak in recent year though.

[Chris]

Seriously we have 23 players capable of winning consistently,
FFS give them a go too decent game plan and a back up plan if things go pear shaped with the main plan.
Instill some passion and a direction they believe in and we dominate.
Summed up find some coaches who can get those things done.

[nzzp]

@Chris said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

Seriously we have 23 players capable of winning consistently,
FFS give them a go too decent game plan and a back up plan if things go pear shaped with the main plan.
Instill some passion and a direction they believe in and we dominate.
Summed up find some coaches who can get those things done.

you're clearly not qualified to select coaches, you make too much sense.

nothing about coaching teams or powerpoints?

[Chris]

@nzzp said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

@Chris said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

Seriously we have 23 players capable of winning consistently,
FFS give them a go too decent game plan and a back up plan if things go pear shaped with the main plan.
Instill some passion and a direction they believe in and we dominate.
Summed up find some coaches who can get those things done.

you're clearly not qualified to select coaches, you make too much sense.

nothing about coaching teams or powerpoints?

Hahaha seems simple to me
Fuck the power points.

[taniwharugby]

@Chris

[Chester Draws]

@Tim said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

@Chester-Draws Super Rugby depth, especially in SA and Oz, has been pretty weak in recent year though.

Didn't seem to affect the Boks last year.

Sometimes the Boks are good, sometimes bad, but they are never soft. And neither are their SR teams. (I'll grant you, Australia is different.)

[Tim]

@Chester-Draws They have a lot of players in Europe. Flatters us in super rugby.

[Frank]

I remember Fozzie saying they were going to up the physicality and pick more specialists.

What a load of BS.

[canefan]

@Frank said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

I remember Fozzie saying they were going to up the physicality and pick more specialists.

What a load of BS.

Clearly the players weren't listening

[Snowy]

@canefan said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

@Frank said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

I remember Fozzie saying they were going to up the physicality and pick more specialists.

What a load of BS.

Clearly the players weren't listening

Would you listen to him?
Just saying.

[canefan]

@Snowy said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

@canefan said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

@Frank said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

I remember Fozzie saying they were going to up the physicality and pick more specialists.

What a load of BS.

Clearly the players weren't listening

Would you listen to him?
Just saying.

Listen? I didn't even want him!

[taniwharugby]

@Frank maybe Fozzie struggling to get them all on the same page, or even the same book?

[canefan]

I think they are in different libraries mate

[Snowy]

@canefan No, neither did I. It must be pretty tough for the players when he is "coaching". I guess that it is obvious that my Respect for him is, umm, limited.

I'm sure he is a great guy but he is there to get good results (and I don't buy the "players aren't good enough" thing). We see them too. We watch them. We analyse them from NPC to Super to AB. The talent is there. The mindset is not. Whether that be confidence, or gameplan - that lands on one person's head.

[taniwharugby]

@Snowy said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

and I don't buy the "players aren't good enough" thing

yeah I dont either.

There is def a disconnect between whatever Fozzie has planned and what we are executing (or not executing)

Be nice to see something a bit different, even if we were scoring bucket loads of tries and conceding loads (the Chiefs way under Fozzie) but we seem to just be seeing more of what we have for the past 3 years

[Tim]

Has it been mentioned that last week's AB team was better than this week's?