Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November
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@Tim said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
This reminds me of 1999 through 2003. When the "powder puff forwards" stereotype was accurate.
Back then we were not at our best in Super Rugby too though, partly for that reason.
Now we carve up consistently in SR. NZ forwards seem strong enough in general.
I reckon a change of coaching staff and suddenly our "powder puff forwards" will be strangely able to do the business.
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Seriously we have 23 players capable of winning consistently,
FFS give them a go too decent game plan and a back up plan if things go pear shaped with the main plan.
Instill some passion and a direction they believe in and we dominate.
Summed up find some coaches who can get those things done. -
Seriously we have 23 players capable of winning consistently,
FFS give them a go too decent game plan and a back up plan if things go pear shaped with the main plan.
Instill some passion and a direction they believe in and we dominate.
Summed up find some coaches who can get those things done.@Chris said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
Seriously we have 23 players capable of winning consistently,
FFS give them a go too decent game plan and a back up plan if things go pear shaped with the main plan.
Instill some passion and a direction they believe in and we dominate.
Summed up find some coaches who can get those things done.you're clearly not qualified to select coaches, you make too much sense.
nothing about coaching teams or powerpoints?
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@Chris said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
Seriously we have 23 players capable of winning consistently,
FFS give them a go too decent game plan and a back up plan if things go pear shaped with the main plan.
Instill some passion and a direction they believe in and we dominate.
Summed up find some coaches who can get those things done.you're clearly not qualified to select coaches, you make too much sense.
nothing about coaching teams or powerpoints?
@nzzp said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
@Chris said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
Seriously we have 23 players capable of winning consistently,
FFS give them a go too decent game plan and a back up plan if things go pear shaped with the main plan.
Instill some passion and a direction they believe in and we dominate.
Summed up find some coaches who can get those things done.you're clearly not qualified to select coaches, you make too much sense.
nothing about coaching teams or powerpoints?
Hahaha seems simple to me
Fuck the power points. -
@nzzp said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
@Chris said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
Seriously we have 23 players capable of winning consistently,
FFS give them a go too decent game plan and a back up plan if things go pear shaped with the main plan.
Instill some passion and a direction they believe in and we dominate.
Summed up find some coaches who can get those things done.you're clearly not qualified to select coaches, you make too much sense.
nothing about coaching teams or powerpoints?
Hahaha seems simple to me
Fuck the power points. -
@Chester-Draws Super Rugby depth, especially in SA and Oz, has been pretty weak in recent year though.
@Tim said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
@Chester-Draws Super Rugby depth, especially in SA and Oz, has been pretty weak in recent year though.
Didn't seem to affect the Boks last year.
Sometimes the Boks are good, sometimes bad, but they are never soft. And neither are their SR teams. (I'll grant you, Australia is different.)
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@Tim said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
@Chester-Draws Super Rugby depth, especially in SA and Oz, has been pretty weak in recent year though.
Didn't seem to affect the Boks last year.
Sometimes the Boks are good, sometimes bad, but they are never soft. And neither are their SR teams. (I'll grant you, Australia is different.)
@Chester-Draws They have a lot of players in Europe. Flatters us in super rugby.
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I remember Fozzie saying they were going to up the physicality and pick more specialists.
What a load of BS.
@Frank said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
I remember Fozzie saying they were going to up the physicality and pick more specialists.
What a load of BS.
Clearly the players weren't listening
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@Frank said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
I remember Fozzie saying they were going to up the physicality and pick more specialists.
What a load of BS.
Clearly the players weren't listening
@canefan said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
@Frank said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
I remember Fozzie saying they were going to up the physicality and pick more specialists.
What a load of BS.
Clearly the players weren't listening
Would you listen to him?
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@canefan said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
@Frank said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
I remember Fozzie saying they were going to up the physicality and pick more specialists.
What a load of BS.
Clearly the players weren't listening
Would you listen to him?
Just saying.@Snowy said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
@canefan said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
@Frank said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
I remember Fozzie saying they were going to up the physicality and pick more specialists.
What a load of BS.
Clearly the players weren't listening
Would you listen to him?
Just saying.Listen? I didn't even want him!
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I remember Fozzie saying they were going to up the physicality and pick more specialists.
What a load of BS.
@Frank maybe Fozzie struggling to get them all on the same page, or even the same book?
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@Snowy said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
@canefan said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
@Frank said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
I remember Fozzie saying they were going to up the physicality and pick more specialists.
What a load of BS.
Clearly the players weren't listening
Would you listen to him?
Just saying.Listen? I didn't even want him!
@canefan No, neither did I. It must be pretty tough for the players when he is "coaching". I guess that it is obvious that my Respect for him is, umm, limited.
I'm sure he is a great guy but he is there to get good results (and I don't buy the "players aren't good enough" thing). We see them too. We watch them. We analyse them from NPC to Super to AB. The talent is there. The mindset is not. Whether that be confidence, or gameplan - that lands on one person's head.
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@canefan No, neither did I. It must be pretty tough for the players when he is "coaching". I guess that it is obvious that my Respect for him is, umm, limited.
I'm sure he is a great guy but he is there to get good results (and I don't buy the "players aren't good enough" thing). We see them too. We watch them. We analyse them from NPC to Super to AB. The talent is there. The mindset is not. Whether that be confidence, or gameplan - that lands on one person's head.
@Snowy said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
and I don't buy the "players aren't good enough" thing
yeah I dont either.
There is def a disconnect between whatever Fozzie has planned and what we are executing (or not executing)
Be nice to see something a bit different, even if we were scoring bucket loads of tries and conceding loads (the Chiefs way under Fozzie) but we seem to just be seeing more of what we have for the past 3 years
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@Tim think they were both a bit average TBH...but for different reasons
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@Bones said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
@chimoaus said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
Argentina on the other hand have had months of build up for this one game, to beat a team they have never beaten and a clear game plan to train for.
Wait, Argies don't have family? If I was an AB I'd be training to beat a team we'd never lost to.
The interesting thing with all this COVID hubs/bubbles or whatever you want to call it for teams away from home ,
In the AFL and nrl , teams that won the comp had been away from home for months and even the warriors seemed to form a brotherhood bond that won them respect , it almost seems some sides were able to tap into something and use it to their advantage when they hit the field even if there was some homesick stuff going on off the field .
@kiwiinmelb said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
@Bones said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
@chimoaus said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
Argentina on the other hand have had months of build up for this one game, to beat a team they have never beaten and a clear game plan to train for.
Wait, Argies don't have family? If I was an AB I'd be training to beat a team we'd never lost to.
The interesting thing with all this COVID hubs/bubbles or whatever you want to call it for teams away from home ,
In the AFL and nrl , teams that won the comp had been away from home for months and even the warriors seemed to form a brotherhood bond that won them respect , it almost seems some sides were able to tap into something and use it to their advantage when they hit the field even if there was some homesick stuff going on off the field .
And some didn’t, see North Melbourne, Demons, Bombers, Hawthorn..
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@junior ah ok, well guess same question applies to Evans.
Although uncle Google says he's been there and still there...
@taniwharugby said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:
@junior ah ok, well guess same question applies to Evans.
Although uncle Google says he's been there and still there...
Enoka seems like a lovely man and appears to have played a significant role in developing the culture in the ABs. I'm less convinced about his ability as a sports psych, because he's been involved for a long time during which we've had some monumental mental breakdowns. To be fair to him, he's also been part of some of our best days, so he deserves at least some credit.
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