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Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November

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    @junior said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

    Doesn't that just go to show how arrogant he's been? Just like a fucking politician, he came into the job preaching hope and change

    It is a bit hard to preach change when you're still winning over 80% of your games in the most recent RWC cycle.

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      @junior said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

      Doesn't that just go to show how arrogant he's been? Just like a fucking politician, he came into the job preaching hope and change

      It is a bit hard to preach change when you're still winning over 80% of your games in the most recent RWC cycle.

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      @NTA said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

      @junior said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

      Doesn't that just go to show how arrogant he's been? Just like a fucking politician, he came into the job preaching hope and change

      It is a bit hard to preach change when you're still winning over 80% of your games in the most recent RWC cycle.

      Except those we lost were crucial, lions, SA, etc. The writing was on the wall, it was picked up on this forum. We were proved right, so why couldn't ask the geniuses at NZR see what we could?

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      • juniorJ junior

        @Frank said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

        I remember Fozzie saying they were going to up the physicality and pick more specialists.

        What a load of BS.

        Doesn't that just go to show how arrogant he's been? Just like a fucking politician, he came into the job preaching hope and change, sending the people the message they wanted to hear, and now he's in the job he's continued on with his bone-headed plan that was an abject failure last year.

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        @junior said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

        @Frank said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

        I remember Fozzie saying they were going to up the physicality and pick more specialists.

        What a load of BS.

        Doesn't that just go to show how arrogant he's been? Just like a fucking politician, he came into the job preaching hope and change, sending the people the message they wanted to hear, and now he's in the job he's continued on with his bone-headed plan that was an abject failure last year.

        Yeah just BS speal with no substance to it.Foster has always been poor as a coach and brings the same old shit from the last two years,He has got go.

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        • ChrisC Chris

          @junior said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

          @Frank said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

          I remember Fozzie saying they were going to up the physicality and pick more specialists.

          What a load of BS.

          Doesn't that just go to show how arrogant he's been? Just like a fucking politician, he came into the job preaching hope and change, sending the people the message they wanted to hear, and now he's in the job he's continued on with his bone-headed plan that was an abject failure last year.

          Yeah just BS speal with no substance to it.Foster has always been poor as a coach and brings the same old shit from the last two years,He has got go.

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          @Chris Amen if I’d didn’t work last year it isn’t suddenly going to this year.

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          • canefanC canefan

            @Frank said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

            I remember Fozzie saying they were going to up the physicality and pick more specialists.

            What a load of BS.

            Clearly the players weren't listening

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            @canefan said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

            @Frank said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

            I remember Fozzie saying they were going to up the physicality and pick more specialists.

            What a load of BS.

            Clearly the players weren't listening

            Bitch slapping oppo isn’t being physical. Smashing rucks is.

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              @canefan said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

              @Frank said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

              I remember Fozzie saying they were going to up the physicality and pick more specialists.

              What a load of BS.

              Clearly the players weren't listening

              Bitch slapping oppo isn’t being physical. Smashing rucks is.

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              @pakman said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

              @canefan said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

              @Frank said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

              I remember Fozzie saying they were going to up the physicality and pick more specialists.

              What a load of BS.

              Clearly the players weren't listening

              Bitch slapping oppo isn’t being physical. Smashing rucks is.

              Anyone told Coles that in the last... ever?

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                Foster is the one who should be heading home. The buck stops at you, fuck face

                https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/tri-nations-rugby-all-blacks-still-plan-to-send-players-home-despite-loss-to-argentina/DWS5H5TBFYBI2GWWLJABJ7JRUM/

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                  Foster is the one who should be heading home. The buck stops at you, fuck face

                  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/tri-nations-rugby-all-blacks-still-plan-to-send-players-home-despite-loss-to-argentina/DWS5H5TBFYBI2GWWLJABJ7JRUM/

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                  @Machpants said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                  Foster is the one who should be heading home. The buck stops at you, fuck face

                  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/tri-nations-rugby-all-blacks-still-plan-to-send-players-home-despite-loss-to-argentina/DWS5H5TBFYBI2GWWLJABJ7JRUM/

                  Take a leaf out of Gary Stead's book you reckon?

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                  • canefanC canefan

                    @Machpants said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                    Foster is the one who should be heading home. The buck stops at you, fuck face

                    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/tri-nations-rugby-all-blacks-still-plan-to-send-players-home-despite-loss-to-argentina/DWS5H5TBFYBI2GWWLJABJ7JRUM/

                    Take a leaf out of Gary Stead's book you reckon?

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                    @canefan said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                    @Machpants said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                    Foster is the one who should be heading home. The buck stops at you, fuck face

                    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/tri-nations-rugby-all-blacks-still-plan-to-send-players-home-despite-loss-to-argentina/DWS5H5TBFYBI2GWWLJABJ7JRUM/

                    Take a leaf out of Gary Stead's book you reckon?

                    Only if it was pre planned.

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                      @canefan said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                      @Machpants said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                      Foster is the one who should be heading home. The buck stops at you, fuck face

                      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/tri-nations-rugby-all-blacks-still-plan-to-send-players-home-despite-loss-to-argentina/DWS5H5TBFYBI2GWWLJABJ7JRUM/

                      Take a leaf out of Gary Stead's book you reckon?

                      Only if it was pre planned.

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                      @Gunner said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                      @canefan said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                      @Machpants said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                      Foster is the one who should be heading home. The buck stops at you, fuck face

                      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/tri-nations-rugby-all-blacks-still-plan-to-send-players-home-despite-loss-to-argentina/DWS5H5TBFYBI2GWWLJABJ7JRUM/

                      Take a leaf out of Gary Stead's book you reckon?

                      Only if it they say it was pre planned.

                      FIFY

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                      • westcoastieW westcoastie

                        I missed the game on Saturday - what happened?
                        Was there even a game?

                        I'm not going to read back through these posts. Its too depressing. For a long time, I felt our performance in the Lions First test was our template moving forward, now it looks more and more like an aberration. It now seems that we really can't look at in all the recent losses since the BIL & Chicago in isolation, because a pattern has formed, and we really have come back to the pack - which is great for World Rugby, shit for us.

                        Foster has to go.
                        RM is not the next Dan Carter, in fact, I think its probably been shown that BB is better behind a poor pack. RM has and does go missing when its not working in front of him. We have some issues, not just RM, but right through the whole team & culture. Time for change.
                        I hope Razor can fix them.

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                        @westcoastie said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                        I missed the game on Saturday - what happened?
                        Was there even a game?

                        I'm not going to read back through these posts. Its too depressing. For a long time, I felt our performance in the Lions First test was our template moving forward, now it looks more and more like an aberration. It now seems that we really can't look at in all the recent losses since the BIL & Chicago in isolation, because a pattern has formed, and we really have come back to the pack - which is great for World Rugby, shit for us.

                        Foster has to go.
                        RM is not the next Dan Carter, in fact, I think its probably been shown that BB is better behind a poor pack. RM has and does go missing when its not working in front of him. We have some issues, not just RM, but right through the whole team & culture. Time for change.
                        I hope Razor can fix them.

                        RM is a big time downhill skier and he's shown that quite amply over the past couple of months. No ability or even willingness to try and impact the game when it's not being served up on a platter. I also wonder if he has a good enough kicking game to be steering this team around the park. This team is going to get beaten upfront fairly regularly it seems, so we need a 10 who can actually kick a ball in a way that's going to relieve pressure. I don't see that he has this ability.

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                          @westcoastie said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                          I missed the game on Saturday - what happened?
                          Was there even a game?

                          I'm not going to read back through these posts. Its too depressing. For a long time, I felt our performance in the Lions First test was our template moving forward, now it looks more and more like an aberration. It now seems that we really can't look at in all the recent losses since the BIL & Chicago in isolation, because a pattern has formed, and we really have come back to the pack - which is great for World Rugby, shit for us.

                          Foster has to go.
                          RM is not the next Dan Carter, in fact, I think its probably been shown that BB is better behind a poor pack. RM has and does go missing when its not working in front of him. We have some issues, not just RM, but right through the whole team & culture. Time for change.
                          I hope Razor can fix them.

                          RM is a big time downhill skier and he's shown that quite amply over the past couple of months. No ability or even willingness to try and impact the game when it's not being served up on a platter. I also wonder if he has a good enough kicking game to be steering this team around the park. This team is going to get beaten upfront fairly regularly it seems, so we need a 10 who can actually kick a ball in a way that's going to relieve pressure. I don't see that he has this ability.

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                          @junior said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                          @westcoastie said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                          I missed the game on Saturday - what happened?
                          Was there even a game?

                          I'm not going to read back through these posts. Its too depressing. For a long time, I felt our performance in the Lions First test was our template moving forward, now it looks more and more like an aberration. It now seems that we really can't look at in all the recent losses since the BIL & Chicago in isolation, because a pattern has formed, and we really have come back to the pack - which is great for World Rugby, shit for us.

                          Foster has to go.
                          RM is not the next Dan Carter, in fact, I think its probably been shown that BB is better behind a poor pack. RM has and does go missing when its not working in front of him. We have some issues, not just RM, but right through the whole team & culture. Time for change.
                          I hope Razor can fix them.

                          RM is a big time downhill skier and he's shown that quite amply over the past couple of months. No ability or even willingness to try and impact the game when it's not being served up on a platter. I also wonder if he has a good enough kicking game to be steering this team around the park. This team is going to get beaten upfront fairly regularly it seems, so we need a 10 who can actually kick a ball in a way that's going to relieve pressure. I don't see that he has this ability.

                          He is one of many issues. After the Summer of rugby we've had from Henry and Hansen, this Winter is going to be cold and gloomy

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                            @junior said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                            @westcoastie said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                            I missed the game on Saturday - what happened?
                            Was there even a game?

                            I'm not going to read back through these posts. Its too depressing. For a long time, I felt our performance in the Lions First test was our template moving forward, now it looks more and more like an aberration. It now seems that we really can't look at in all the recent losses since the BIL & Chicago in isolation, because a pattern has formed, and we really have come back to the pack - which is great for World Rugby, shit for us.

                            Foster has to go.
                            RM is not the next Dan Carter, in fact, I think its probably been shown that BB is better behind a poor pack. RM has and does go missing when its not working in front of him. We have some issues, not just RM, but right through the whole team & culture. Time for change.
                            I hope Razor can fix them.

                            RM is a big time downhill skier and he's shown that quite amply over the past couple of months. No ability or even willingness to try and impact the game when it's not being served up on a platter. I also wonder if he has a good enough kicking game to be steering this team around the park. This team is going to get beaten upfront fairly regularly it seems, so we need a 10 who can actually kick a ball in a way that's going to relieve pressure. I don't see that he has this ability.

                            He is one of many issues. After the Summer of rugby we've had from Henry and Hansen, this Winter is going to be cold and gloomy

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                            @canefan said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                            @junior said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                            @westcoastie said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                            I missed the game on Saturday - what happened?
                            Was there even a game?

                            I'm not going to read back through these posts. Its too depressing. For a long time, I felt our performance in the Lions First test was our template moving forward, now it looks more and more like an aberration. It now seems that we really can't look at in all the recent losses since the BIL & Chicago in isolation, because a pattern has formed, and we really have come back to the pack - which is great for World Rugby, shit for us.

                            Foster has to go.
                            RM is not the next Dan Carter, in fact, I think its probably been shown that BB is better behind a poor pack. RM has and does go missing when its not working in front of him. We have some issues, not just RM, but right through the whole team & culture. Time for change.
                            I hope Razor can fix them.

                            RM is a big time downhill skier and he's shown that quite amply over the past couple of months. No ability or even willingness to try and impact the game when it's not being served up on a platter. I also wonder if he has a good enough kicking game to be steering this team around the park. This team is going to get beaten upfront fairly regularly it seems, so we need a 10 who can actually kick a ball in a way that's going to relieve pressure. I don't see that he has this ability.

                            He is one of many issues. After the Summer of rugby we've had from Henry and Hansen, this Winter is going to be cold and gloomy

                            Agreed, and I'm not saying that he is solely to blame for where the team currently sits. I'm just saying, with where this team is currently at, he might not actually be the best guy to be steering them around the park (and he's not even steering them to be accurate).

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                              @canefan said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                              @junior said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                              @westcoastie said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                              I missed the game on Saturday - what happened?
                              Was there even a game?

                              I'm not going to read back through these posts. Its too depressing. For a long time, I felt our performance in the Lions First test was our template moving forward, now it looks more and more like an aberration. It now seems that we really can't look at in all the recent losses since the BIL & Chicago in isolation, because a pattern has formed, and we really have come back to the pack - which is great for World Rugby, shit for us.

                              Foster has to go.
                              RM is not the next Dan Carter, in fact, I think its probably been shown that BB is better behind a poor pack. RM has and does go missing when its not working in front of him. We have some issues, not just RM, but right through the whole team & culture. Time for change.
                              I hope Razor can fix them.

                              RM is a big time downhill skier and he's shown that quite amply over the past couple of months. No ability or even willingness to try and impact the game when it's not being served up on a platter. I also wonder if he has a good enough kicking game to be steering this team around the park. This team is going to get beaten upfront fairly regularly it seems, so we need a 10 who can actually kick a ball in a way that's going to relieve pressure. I don't see that he has this ability.

                              He is one of many issues. After the Summer of rugby we've had from Henry and Hansen, this Winter is going to be cold and gloomy

                              Agreed, and I'm not saying that he is solely to blame for where the team currently sits. I'm just saying, with where this team is currently at, he might not actually be the best guy to be steering them around the park (and he's not even steering them to be accurate).

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                              @junior said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                              @canefan said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                              @junior said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                              @westcoastie said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                              I missed the game on Saturday - what happened?
                              Was there even a game?

                              I'm not going to read back through these posts. Its too depressing. For a long time, I felt our performance in the Lions First test was our template moving forward, now it looks more and more like an aberration. It now seems that we really can't look at in all the recent losses since the BIL & Chicago in isolation, because a pattern has formed, and we really have come back to the pack - which is great for World Rugby, shit for us.

                              Foster has to go.
                              RM is not the next Dan Carter, in fact, I think its probably been shown that BB is better behind a poor pack. RM has and does go missing when its not working in front of him. We have some issues, not just RM, but right through the whole team & culture. Time for change.
                              I hope Razor can fix them.

                              RM is a big time downhill skier and he's shown that quite amply over the past couple of months. No ability or even willingness to try and impact the game when it's not being served up on a platter. I also wonder if he has a good enough kicking game to be steering this team around the park. This team is going to get beaten upfront fairly regularly it seems, so we need a 10 who can actually kick a ball in a way that's going to relieve pressure. I don't see that he has this ability.

                              He is one of many issues. After the Summer of rugby we've had from Henry and Hansen, this Winter is going to be cold and gloomy

                              Agreed, and I'm not saying that he is solely to blame for where the team currently sits. I'm just saying, with where this team is currently at, he might not actually be the best guy to be steering them around the park (and he's not even steering them to be accurate).

                              BB runs hot and cold too, not helped by being played at 15 by the Blues and ABs. Legitimate question, who would you pick?

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                                We seem to have a leadership vacuum at the moment, and it is costing us matches

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                                  @junior said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                                  @canefan said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                                  @junior said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                                  @westcoastie said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                                  I missed the game on Saturday - what happened?
                                  Was there even a game?

                                  I'm not going to read back through these posts. Its too depressing. For a long time, I felt our performance in the Lions First test was our template moving forward, now it looks more and more like an aberration. It now seems that we really can't look at in all the recent losses since the BIL & Chicago in isolation, because a pattern has formed, and we really have come back to the pack - which is great for World Rugby, shit for us.

                                  Foster has to go.
                                  RM is not the next Dan Carter, in fact, I think its probably been shown that BB is better behind a poor pack. RM has and does go missing when its not working in front of him. We have some issues, not just RM, but right through the whole team & culture. Time for change.
                                  I hope Razor can fix them.

                                  RM is a big time downhill skier and he's shown that quite amply over the past couple of months. No ability or even willingness to try and impact the game when it's not being served up on a platter. I also wonder if he has a good enough kicking game to be steering this team around the park. This team is going to get beaten upfront fairly regularly it seems, so we need a 10 who can actually kick a ball in a way that's going to relieve pressure. I don't see that he has this ability.

                                  He is one of many issues. After the Summer of rugby we've had from Henry and Hansen, this Winter is going to be cold and gloomy

                                  Agreed, and I'm not saying that he is solely to blame for where the team currently sits. I'm just saying, with where this team is currently at, he might not actually be the best guy to be steering them around the park (and he's not even steering them to be accurate).

                                  BB runs hot and cold too, not helped by being played at 15 by the Blues and ABs. Legitimate question, who would you pick?

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                                  @canefan said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                                  @junior said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                                  @canefan said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                                  @junior said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                                  @westcoastie said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                                  I missed the game on Saturday - what happened?
                                  Was there even a game?

                                  I'm not going to read back through these posts. Its too depressing. For a long time, I felt our performance in the Lions First test was our template moving forward, now it looks more and more like an aberration. It now seems that we really can't look at in all the recent losses since the BIL & Chicago in isolation, because a pattern has formed, and we really have come back to the pack - which is great for World Rugby, shit for us.

                                  Foster has to go.
                                  RM is not the next Dan Carter, in fact, I think its probably been shown that BB is better behind a poor pack. RM has and does go missing when its not working in front of him. We have some issues, not just RM, but right through the whole team & culture. Time for change.
                                  I hope Razor can fix them.

                                  RM is a big time downhill skier and he's shown that quite amply over the past couple of months. No ability or even willingness to try and impact the game when it's not being served up on a platter. I also wonder if he has a good enough kicking game to be steering this team around the park. This team is going to get beaten upfront fairly regularly it seems, so we need a 10 who can actually kick a ball in a way that's going to relieve pressure. I don't see that he has this ability.

                                  He is one of many issues. After the Summer of rugby we've had from Henry and Hansen, this Winter is going to be cold and gloomy

                                  Agreed, and I'm not saying that he is solely to blame for where the team currently sits. I'm just saying, with where this team is currently at, he might not actually be the best guy to be steering them around the park (and he's not even steering them to be accurate).

                                  BB runs hot and cold too, not helped by being played at 15 by the Blues and ABs. Legitimate question, who would you pick?

                                  I would pick BB there, TBH. I know he has his issues, but he is the best available option. He is probably our best player and so needs the ball in his hands more. He has a somewhat proven combination with A Smith. Also, he's clearly one of the leaders and decision-makers - he therefore needs to be in a position to effect these decisions. At the moment, I'm not sure we are getting that from RM.

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                                    @canefan said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                                    @junior said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                                    @canefan said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                                    @junior said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                                    @westcoastie said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                                    I missed the game on Saturday - what happened?
                                    Was there even a game?

                                    I'm not going to read back through these posts. Its too depressing. For a long time, I felt our performance in the Lions First test was our template moving forward, now it looks more and more like an aberration. It now seems that we really can't look at in all the recent losses since the BIL & Chicago in isolation, because a pattern has formed, and we really have come back to the pack - which is great for World Rugby, shit for us.

                                    Foster has to go.
                                    RM is not the next Dan Carter, in fact, I think its probably been shown that BB is better behind a poor pack. RM has and does go missing when its not working in front of him. We have some issues, not just RM, but right through the whole team & culture. Time for change.
                                    I hope Razor can fix them.

                                    RM is a big time downhill skier and he's shown that quite amply over the past couple of months. No ability or even willingness to try and impact the game when it's not being served up on a platter. I also wonder if he has a good enough kicking game to be steering this team around the park. This team is going to get beaten upfront fairly regularly it seems, so we need a 10 who can actually kick a ball in a way that's going to relieve pressure. I don't see that he has this ability.

                                    He is one of many issues. After the Summer of rugby we've had from Henry and Hansen, this Winter is going to be cold and gloomy

                                    Agreed, and I'm not saying that he is solely to blame for where the team currently sits. I'm just saying, with where this team is currently at, he might not actually be the best guy to be steering them around the park (and he's not even steering them to be accurate).

                                    BB runs hot and cold too, not helped by being played at 15 by the Blues and ABs. Legitimate question, who would you pick?

                                    I would pick BB there, TBH. I know he has his issues, but he is the best available option. He is probably our best player and so needs the ball in his hands more. He has a somewhat proven combination with A Smith. Also, he's clearly one of the leaders and decision-makers - he therefore needs to be in a position to effect these decisions. At the moment, I'm not sure we are getting that from RM.

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                                    @junior said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                                    @canefan said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                                    @junior said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                                    @canefan said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                                    @junior said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                                    @westcoastie said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                                    I missed the game on Saturday - what happened?
                                    Was there even a game?

                                    I'm not going to read back through these posts. Its too depressing. For a long time, I felt our performance in the Lions First test was our template moving forward, now it looks more and more like an aberration. It now seems that we really can't look at in all the recent losses since the BIL & Chicago in isolation, because a pattern has formed, and we really have come back to the pack - which is great for World Rugby, shit for us.

                                    Foster has to go.
                                    RM is not the next Dan Carter, in fact, I think its probably been shown that BB is better behind a poor pack. RM has and does go missing when its not working in front of him. We have some issues, not just RM, but right through the whole team & culture. Time for change.
                                    I hope Razor can fix them.

                                    RM is a big time downhill skier and he's shown that quite amply over the past couple of months. No ability or even willingness to try and impact the game when it's not being served up on a platter. I also wonder if he has a good enough kicking game to be steering this team around the park. This team is going to get beaten upfront fairly regularly it seems, so we need a 10 who can actually kick a ball in a way that's going to relieve pressure. I don't see that he has this ability.

                                    He is one of many issues. After the Summer of rugby we've had from Henry and Hansen, this Winter is going to be cold and gloomy

                                    Agreed, and I'm not saying that he is solely to blame for where the team currently sits. I'm just saying, with where this team is currently at, he might not actually be the best guy to be steering them around the park (and he's not even steering them to be accurate).

                                    BB runs hot and cold too, not helped by being played at 15 by the Blues and ABs. Legitimate question, who would you pick?

                                    I would pick BB there, TBH. I know he has his issues, but he is the best available option. He is probably our best player and so needs the ball in his hands more. He has a somewhat proven combination with A Smith. Also, he's clearly one of the leaders and decision-makers - he therefore needs to be in a position to effect these decisions. At the moment, I'm not sure we are getting that from RM.

                                    I agree. Offers more leadership

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                                      No potential for Josh Ioane at 10 in the next couple of years?

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                                        Maybe. He's not yet the finished article.

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                                          Has it been mentioned that last week's AB team was better than this week's?

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                                          @Tim said in Argentina One: Parramatta, 14 November:

                                          Has it been mentioned that last week's AB team was better than this week's?

                                          Lets not jump to conclusions just yet - Argentina might beat Australia just as easily...

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