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Exodus 2016

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  • TimT Away
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    Tim
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    #184

    Cruden is the best 10 in the competition. He was sharp as a pencil last week against the Blues. Brilliant after an ACL injury. <br><br>
    He ain't gonna stop the Blues juggernaut though. 🙂

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      Bovidae
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      #185

      <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Bones" data-cid="561112" data-time="1456475958">
      <div>
      <p>That's pro Barrett then right?</p>
      </div>
      </blockquote>
      <p> </p>
      <p>No, quite the opposite. </p>
      <p> </p>
      <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote">
      <p> </p>
      <p>Evans is a legend in Euro rugby.</p>
      </blockquote>
      <p> </p>
      <p>Yes, but apart from one Aviva what have Quins won?  Like Barrett, he's a very good player but is style over substance. </p>
      <p> </p>
      <p>While I think Barrett would be more valuable to a club due to his versatility, if I wanted a 1st 5 who offered me the best chance of winning I'd choose Cruden.</p>

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      • B Offline
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        bobily
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        #186

        <p>Fonotia is off to the Ospreys after the ITM Cup season</p>
        <p> </p>
        <p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/77366361/crusader-fonotia-signs-with-ospreys'>http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/77366361/crusader-fonotia-signs-with-ospreys</a></p>

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        • StargazerS Offline
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          Stargazer
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          #187

          <p>And here's the official news from the Ospreys about the Fonotia signing:</p>
          <p> </p>
          <p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.ospreysrugby.com/News/Article/44206'>http://www.ospreysrugby.com/News/Article/44206</a></p>
          <p> </p>
          <p> </p>
          <p>Edit: I didn't realise he's already 28!</p>

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          • Billy TellB Offline
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            Billy Tell
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            #188

            A good signing for Ospreys and the Crusaders.

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            • gollumG Offline
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              gollum
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              #189

              <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Bovidae" data-cid="561227" data-time="1456520344">
              <div><br><p>Yes, but apart from one Aviva what have Quins won?  Like Barrett, he's a very good player but is style over substance. </p>
              <p> </p>
              <p>While I think Barrett would be more valuable to a club due to his versatility, if I wanted a 1st 5 who offered me the best chance of winning I'd choose Cruden.</p>
              </div>
              </blockquote>
              <p> </p>
              <p>With Evans its more he has often stopped Quins getting reamed, made them a mid table team rather than relegation fodder. He's been consistently outstanding, but surrounded by some very shithouse players. I mean the shining lights of that backline are Winston Stanley & Marland Yarde FFS...</p>

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                Crucial
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                #190

                <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Bones" data-cid="561112" data-time="1456475958">
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                <p>That's pro Barrett then right? Evans is a legend in Euro rugby.</p>
                </div>
                </blockquote>
                <p> </p>
                <p>Looks to be getting into the coaching game now. Starting at the grassroots with Wimbledon as backs coach while finishing out his playing contract at Quins</p>

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                • TimT Away
                  TimT Away
                  Tim
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                  #191

                  <a class="bbc_url" href="http://m.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&amp;objectid=11604578">Wayne Smith set to re-sign with New Zealand Rugby</a>

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                    cgrant
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                    #192

                    <p>Bekhuis has signed with Lyon O.U for next season.</p>

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                    • B Offline
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                      bobily
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                      #193

                      <p>Motu Matu'u has signed with Gloucester for next season</p>

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                      • HigginsH Offline
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                        Higgins
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                        #194

                        <p>Maybe won't be a loss given that both young hookers at the Canes seem to be going ok, especially Riccitelli who looked pretty good in his debut performance off the bench last week. Still remains to be seen if they can carry on performing at the higher level week in and week out, particularly when they come up against the highly rated/better performed forward packs.</p>
                        <p> </p>
                        <p>You really can't blame him for looking for what must be better financial rewards offshore when reality indicates that it will be sooner rather than later that he would be usurped by the young chargers currently snapping at his heels.</p>

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                        • MilkM Offline
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                          Milk
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                          #195

                          <p>Matu'u always seems to be injured at the wrong time, so don't feel I get to see him that often. Besides, he can go over there and wreck their players. I spend entire games wincing as NZ players run down his channel.</p>

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                            Winger
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                            #196

                            <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Higgins" data-cid="565302" data-time="1458250459">
                            <div>
                            <p>Maybe won't be a loss given that both young hookers at the Canes seem to be going ok, especially Riccitelli who looked pretty good in his debut performance off the bench last week. Still remains to be seen if they can carry on performing at the higher level week in and week out, particularly when they come up against the highly rated/better performed forward packs.</p>
                            <p> </p>
                            <p>You really can't blame him for looking for what must be better financial rewards offshore when reality indicates that it will be sooner rather than later that he would be usurped by the young chargers currently snapping at his heels.</p>
                            </div>
                            </blockquote>
                            <p> </p>
                            <p>His lineout throwing was not up to much. And he's often injured. So not really a great loss if we can keep the young guns</p>

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                            • BonesB Online
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                              Bones
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                              #197

                              <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Higgins" data-cid="565302" data-time="1458250459">
                              <div>
                              <p>Maybe won't be a loss given that both young hookers at the Canes seem to be going ok, especially Riccitelli who looked pretty good in his debut performance off the bench last week. Still remains to be seen if they can carry on performing at the higher level week in and week out, particularly when they come up against the highly rated/better performed forward packs.</p>
                              <p> </p>
                              <p>You really can't blame him for looking for what must be better financial rewards offshore when reality indicates that it will be sooner rather than later that he would be usurped by the young chargers currently snapping at his heels.</p>
                              </div>
                              </blockquote>
                              <p> </p>
                              <p>I think the slog type game up here will actually suit him a lot anyway - he's good in close and around the fringes - he'll get a lot of that up here...</p>

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                                KiwiMurph
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                                #198

                                <p>Charles Piutau</p>
                                <p> </p>
                                <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote">
                                <p><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Arial, sans-serif;background-color:rgb(237,237,237);">I'll see how I feel at the end of my Ulster contract but the plan is to go back to New Zealand and have another crack at the All Blacks," he said.</span></p>
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                                • mariner4lifeM Online
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                                  mariner4life
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                                  #199

                                  <p>Fuck you Charles. Take your cake and fuck off. Where are you this year when our right wings are all broken? oh, lining your pockets. </p>
                                  <p> </p>
                                  <p>You were my boy Charles, but you burned me brah, we're done. </p>
                                  <p> </p>
                                  <p> </p>
                                  <p> </p>
                                  <p> </p>
                                  <p> </p>
                                  <p>Seriously, this doesn't surprise any one. I hope he's had a chat to Luke McAlister though. </p>

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                                    antipodean
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                                    #200

                                    There's no way he's going to come back in another two years playing the sort of rugby that will get him into the All Blacks.

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                                      broughie
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                                      #201

                                      <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="antipodean" data-cid="566576" data-time="1458647021">
                                      <div>
                                      <p>There's no way he's going to come back in another two years playing the sort of rugby that will get him into the All Blacks.</p>
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                                      <p> </p>
                                      <p>He is still reasonably young so I wouldn't write him off. The thing is that we always seem to come up with replacements for those that leave.</p>
                                      <p> </p>
                                      <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="mariner4life" data-cid="566489" data-time="1458617988">
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                                      <p>Fuck you Charles. Take your cake and fuck off. Where are you this year when our right wings are all broken? oh, lining your pockets. </p>
                                      <p> </p>
                                      <p>You were my boy Charles, but you burned me brah, we're done. </p>
                                      <p> </p>
                                      <p> </p>
                                      <p> </p>
                                      <p> </p>
                                      <p> </p>
                                      <p>Seriously, this doesn't surprise any one. I hope he's had a chat to Luke McAlister though. </p>
                                      </div>
                                      </blockquote>
                                      <p> </p>
                                      <p>Hey these guys have a limited shelf life and financial security is important so I understand him taking the money.  He could be done physically in 3 years and what will he fall back on?</p>

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                                        mooshld
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                                        #202

                                        <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="broughie" data-cid="566589" data-time="1458659851">
                                        <div>
                                        <p>He is still reasonably young so I wouldn't write him off. The thing is that we always seem to come up with replacements for those that leave.</p>
                                        </div>
                                        </blockquote>
                                        <p> </p>
                                        <p>Is it that or do they just stop developing as players when they come over here? I suspect its a little of both to be honest. </p>

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                                          gollum
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                                          #203

                                          <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="mooshld" data-cid="566598" data-time="1458665180">
                                          <div>
                                          <p>Is it that or do they just stop developing as players when they come over here? I suspect its a little of both to be honest. </p>
                                          </div>
                                          </blockquote>
                                          <p> </p>
                                          <p>They all seem to come back looking to run into contact & playing heads down rugby.</p>
                                          <p> </p>
                                          <p>If you watch Luke at Sale he was used over & over as a crash ball runner - with a lot of success. But then he came back & all he seemed to have was the crash ball into contact. Which in NZ rugby is the "well, there's nothing on so I'll do this" option, not the "this is my first option every time" thing it is in a lot of UK sides.</p>
                                          <p> </p>
                                          <p>In contrast you had guys like Nonu who certainly could run that ball, but only if the gaps weren't on. Its like 3 years up North they stop seeing space. Part of it might be you run constantly into space in the UK & then get caught the chances of your 9 & your 3 fat slow loosies getting to you in time to recycle are zero. It becomes self fufilling, players run into contact because thats where the support is, and 6's get picked as opensides because a big grunter is more useful over 80 mninutes than a fast link man / poacher, because the game is a bit tighter.</p>

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