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Hurricanes 2021

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  • StargazerS Stargazer

    @ARHS said in 2021 Hurricanes:

    Another coup for the Canes, after Billy Procter and Julian Savea. No room for Fletcher Smith now

    Or Lincoln McClutchie.

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    @Stargazer Would have expected Visinia, Fomai and Parsons to be snapped up also.

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      @Stargazer Would have expected Visinia, Fomai and Parsons to be snapped up also.

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      @ARHS Yep. Hopefully another franchise shows some interest, because it seems the number of Magpies at the Canes is only decreasing ... I think we were over our quota, last year.

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      • WingerW Winger

        @ARHS said in 2021 Hurricanes:

        Another coup for the Canes, after Billy Procter and Julian Savea. No room for Fletcher Smith now

        Proctor was signed a few years back. But hes still only 22 so still time for him to come good. To me he's a center but needs a powerful 2nd 5 inside him. Maybe UJ at 2nd 5 might work

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        @Winger Just a little odd that both long-term signings were competing for fullback berth with Wellington, and Jordie, Tiatia and Toala already play there for Canes. So, I assume Love is intended as a 10 in place of Smith

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          @Winger Just a little odd that both long-term signings were competing for fullback berth with Wellington, and Jordie, Tiatia and Toala already play there for Canes. So, I assume Love is intended as a 10 in place of Smith

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          @ARHS He must be a long-term project though, because he's no where near SR quality, yet.

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            @Machpants He was very good at prem level and was showing signs at Mitre 10 level good pick up, though I really wanted McClutchie.

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              Love is a 1st 5 playing fullback. I'm not sure why these young players need to be fast-tracked though. Give them a development contract first.

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              • BovidaeB Bovidae

                Love is a 1st 5 playing fullback. I'm not sure why these young players need to be fast-tracked though. Give them a development contract first.

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                @Bovidae I think to stop other teams coming in with Fulltime contracts and signing them is my guess.

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                • StargazerS Stargazer

                  @ARHS said in 2021 Hurricanes:

                  Another coup for the Canes, after Billy Procter and Julian Savea. No room for Fletcher Smith now

                  Or Lincoln McClutchie.

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                  @Stargazer said in 2021 Hurricanes:

                  @ARHS said in 2021 Hurricanes:

                  Another coup for the Canes, after Billy Procter and Julian Savea. No room for Fletcher Smith now

                  Or Lincoln McClutchie.

                  Canes need to find a good super rugby first 5. Not another adequate option. we've got 2 already. One who isn't even a starter at NPC level

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                  • StargazerS Stargazer

                    @ARHS He must be a long-term project though, because he's no where near SR quality, yet.

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                    @Stargazer said in 2021 Hurricanes:

                    @ARHS He must be a long-term project though, because he's no where near SR quality, yet.

                    Hes 19. give him time.

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                      @Winger Just a little odd that both long-term signings were competing for fullback berth with Wellington, and Jordie, Tiatia and Toala already play there for Canes. So, I assume Love is intended as a 10 in place of Smith

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                      @ARHS said in 2021 Hurricanes:

                      Jordie, Tiatia and Toala

                      Tiatia. No thanks. And when has Toala played FB for the Canes. His only start was at 2nd 5

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                      • WingerW Winger

                        @Stargazer said in 2021 Hurricanes:

                        @ARHS said in 2021 Hurricanes:

                        Another coup for the Canes, after Billy Procter and Julian Savea. No room for Fletcher Smith now

                        Or Lincoln McClutchie.

                        Canes need to find a good super rugby first 5. Not another adequate option. we've got 2 already. One who isn't even a starter at NPC level

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                        @Winger Sometimes McClutchie starts, sometimes he doesn't. There seem to be tactical reasons for that, just like they prefer to bring on IWL and Evans from the bench. McClutchie has the potential to become much better than the first fives signed by the Canes. He's ready for that step up IMO, unlike Love.

                        @Winger said in 2021 Hurricanes:

                        @ARHS said in 2021 Hurricanes:

                        Jordie, Tiatia and Toala

                        Tiatia. No thanks. And when has Toala played FB for the Canes. His only start was at 2nd 5

                        Not for the Canes, but he has played a lot at fullback for Hastings Boys and his game for NZU20s. He was excellent from the back. He also has a good boot.

                        @Winger said in 2021 Hurricanes:

                        @Stargazer said in 2021 Hurricanes:

                        @ARHS He must be a long-term project though, because he's no where near SR quality, yet.

                        Hes 19. give him time.

                        Didn't notice the word "yet" in my response?

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                        • WingerW Winger

                          @Stargazer said in 2021 Hurricanes:

                          @ARHS He must be a long-term project though, because he's no where near SR quality, yet.

                          Hes 19. give him time.

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                          @Winger said in 2021 Hurricanes:

                          @Stargazer said in 2021 Hurricanes:

                          @ARHS He must be a long-term project though, because he's no where near SR quality, yet.

                          Hes 19. give him time.

                          Well that’s the fucking point, why’s he getting selected if he needs time?

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                          • NepiaN Nepia

                            @Winger said in 2021 Hurricanes:

                            @Stargazer said in 2021 Hurricanes:

                            @ARHS He must be a long-term project though, because he's no where near SR quality, yet.

                            Hes 19. give him time.

                            Well that’s the fucking point, why’s he getting selected if he needs time?

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                            @Nepia said in 2021 Hurricanes:

                            @Winger said in 2021 Hurricanes:

                            @Stargazer said in 2021 Hurricanes:

                            @ARHS He must be a long-term project though, because he's no where near SR quality, yet.

                            Hes 19. give him time.

                            Well that’s the fucking point, why’s he getting selected if he needs time?

                            Because if the Canes don't sign him another team will.

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                            • WingerW Winger

                              @Nepia said in 2021 Hurricanes:

                              @Winger said in 2021 Hurricanes:

                              @Stargazer said in 2021 Hurricanes:

                              @ARHS He must be a long-term project though, because he's no where near SR quality, yet.

                              Hes 19. give him time.

                              Well that’s the fucking point, why’s he getting selected if he needs time?

                              Because if the Canes don't sign him another team will.

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                              Nepia
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                              @Winger said in 2021 Hurricanes:

                              @Nepia said in 2021 Hurricanes:

                              @Winger said in 2021 Hurricanes:

                              @Stargazer said in 2021 Hurricanes:

                              @ARHS He must be a long-term project though, because he's no where near SR quality, yet.

                              Hes 19. give him time.

                              Well that’s the fucking point, why’s he getting selected if he needs time?

                              Because if the Canes don't sign him another team will.

                              Why would another team sign him if he needs time?

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                                At 19 Love already looks like a strong prospect. He was one of the shining lights for Wellington this year. Sound on attack, fearless on defence even playing at 15 and seems to be one of those players that pops up at the right moments.

                                Can’t wait to see how he goes with better players around him.

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                                • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                  At 19 Love already looks like a strong prospect. He was one of the shining lights for Wellington this year. Sound on attack, fearless on defence even playing at 15 and seems to be one of those players that pops up at the right moments.

                                  Can’t wait to see how he goes with better players around him.

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                                  @Canes4life You seem to have forgotten that a lot of those players around him at Mitre 10 Cup level for Wellington are also Hurricanes. Are you finally conceding that those said Wellington players are not "better players"?

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                                    At 19 Love already looks like a strong prospect. He was one of the shining lights for Wellington this year. Sound on attack, fearless on defence even playing at 15 and seems to be one of those players that pops up at the right moments.

                                    Can’t wait to see how he goes with better players around him.

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                                    @Canes4life said in 2021 Hurricanes:

                                    At 19 Love already looks like a strong prospect. He was one of the shining lights for Wellington this year. Sound on attack, fearless on defence even playing at 15 and seems to be one of those players that pops up at the right moments.

                                    Can’t wait to see how he goes with better players around him.

                                    You could have said the exact same things about McClutchie when he was 19 ... except he came from the wrong province for you to see how he goes with better players around him.

                                    Hmmm, i can’t decide whether the Canes or the Warriors annoy me more at the moment.

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                                      @Canes4life You seem to have forgotten that a lot of those players around him at Mitre 10 Cup level for Wellington are also Hurricanes. Are you finally conceding that those said Wellington players are not "better players"?

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                                      @Higgins lol all the decent Lions so called Hurricanes players were with the All Blacks throughout the majority of the Mitre 10 Cup. He hasn't played with them yet. He's only played with the average Canes players like Blackwell and J Garden-Bachop who I've already said aren't upto it so I don't really see your point.

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                                      • NepiaN Nepia

                                        @Canes4life said in 2021 Hurricanes:

                                        At 19 Love already looks like a strong prospect. He was one of the shining lights for Wellington this year. Sound on attack, fearless on defence even playing at 15 and seems to be one of those players that pops up at the right moments.

                                        Can’t wait to see how he goes with better players around him.

                                        You could have said the exact same things about McClutchie when he was 19 ... except he came from the wrong province for you to see how he goes with better players around him.

                                        Hmmm, i can’t decide whether the Canes or the Warriors annoy me more at the moment.

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                                        @Nepia this is pretty funny. Hawkes Bay don't even think he's good enough to start in the 10 jersey, what makes you think McClutchie is good enough for a Super contract. He hasn't set the house on fire so far...

                                        Why do the Canes annoy you?

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                                          @Nepia this is pretty funny. Hawkes Bay don't even think he's good enough to start in the 10 jersey, what makes you think McClutchie is good enough for a Super contract. He hasn't set the house on fire so far...

                                          Why do the Canes annoy you?

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                                          @Canes4life said in 2021 Hurricanes:

                                          @Nepia this is pretty funny. Hawkes Bay don't even think he's good enough to start in the 10 jersey, what makes you think McClutchie is good enough for a Super contract. He hasn't set the house on fire so far...

                                          Why do the Canes annoy you?

                                          He thinks that if Love played for Hawkes Bay, he wouldn't have got a contract. I think there is something to that, although it isn't that simple.

                                          Regardless, if you think Love is going to be a massive talent then you have to sign him up. You have to lock a generational talent because someone else will take him. Players in New Zealand don't move around much once they are an established Super Rugby player. The challenge is to actually get it right and identify the right players. Love does take someone else's spot who could be that generational talent.

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