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Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November

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  • M Machpants

    @Kirwan said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

    @Chris-B said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

    @ACT-Crusader said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

    The thinking behind Goodhue at 12 for the Saders was that after we lost Crotty there wasn’t a natural successor.

    It was one of those combo decisions where there were two potential options in Goodhue and Havili.

    Havili was also the best fullback in the Saders squad.

    Then add to the mix that Razor wanted Ennor to transition to the wing.

    So you have a 10+ test All Black in Goodhue that has attributes to play 2nd 5 but will take some time.

    I think it’s worth persisting with but it’s going to take time as we have seen for others that have transitioned from wing or centre to 2nd 5.

    Jordie should have stayed in the Canterbury/Crusaders system, where he could have continued to play 2nd five and right about now he'd be a sort of SBW Mk II - a big, tall player, offloading all over the place, but not made of glass.

    Instead, he's clogging up a wing, not going to be a first choice fullback until his brother loses his pace, and the Canes are not going to play him at 2nd five while he's their best fullback and they have Laumape.

    Alternative is he can come to the Blues (as he's rumoured to be doing when his brother is back). We'll play him in the midfield if he wants.

    With Ioane?

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    @Machpants said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

    @Kirwan said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

    @Chris-B said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

    @ACT-Crusader said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

    The thinking behind Goodhue at 12 for the Saders was that after we lost Crotty there wasn’t a natural successor.

    It was one of those combo decisions where there were two potential options in Goodhue and Havili.

    Havili was also the best fullback in the Saders squad.

    Then add to the mix that Razor wanted Ennor to transition to the wing.

    So you have a 10+ test All Black in Goodhue that has attributes to play 2nd 5 but will take some time.

    I think it’s worth persisting with but it’s going to take time as we have seen for others that have transitioned from wing or centre to 2nd 5.

    Jordie should have stayed in the Canterbury/Crusaders system, where he could have continued to play 2nd five and right about now he'd be a sort of SBW Mk II - a big, tall player, offloading all over the place, but not made of glass.

    Instead, he's clogging up a wing, not going to be a first choice fullback until his brother loses his pace, and the Canes are not going to play him at 2nd five while he's their best fullback and they have Laumape.

    Alternative is he can come to the Blues (as he's rumoured to be doing when his brother is back). We'll play him in the midfield if he wants.

    With Ioane?

    Probably, might as well work on an AB potential pairing 🙂

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    • Chris B.C Chris B.

      @ACT-Crusader said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

      The thinking behind Goodhue at 12 for the Saders was that after we lost Crotty there wasn’t a natural successor.

      It was one of those combo decisions where there were two potential options in Goodhue and Havili.

      Havili was also the best fullback in the Saders squad.

      Then add to the mix that Razor wanted Ennor to transition to the wing.

      So you have a 10+ test All Black in Goodhue that has attributes to play 2nd 5 but will take some time.

      I think it’s worth persisting with but it’s going to take time as we have seen for others that have transitioned from wing or centre to 2nd 5.

      Jordie should have stayed in the Canterbury/Crusaders system, where he could have continued to play 2nd five and right about now he'd be a sort of SBW Mk II - a big, tall player, offloading all over the place, but not made of glass.

      Instead, he's clogging up a wing, not going to be a first choice fullback until his brother loses his pace, and the Canes are not going to play him at 2nd five while he's their best fullback and they have Laumape.

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      @Chris-B said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

      Instead, he's clogging up a wing, not going to be a first choice fullback until his brother loses his pace,

      Or heads off to Japan

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      • M Machpants

        @Nepia said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

        @nostrildamus said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

        @Nepia Because in December he was said to be living in LA?
        I understand he is separated but he probably still has a house there?
        https://www.magzter.com/article/Lifestyle/Esquire-Singapore/Taika-Waititi-Takes-On-The-Marvel-Star-Wars-And-Dc-Universes

        I still find it weird, I live in Australia, I'm just a NZer not a NZ born insert job here.

        It's about being pasifika, he says he's an NZ born (whatever island, I can't remember).

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        @Machpants said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

        @Nepia said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

        @nostrildamus said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

        @Nepia Because in December he was said to be living in LA?
        I understand he is separated but he probably still has a house there?
        https://www.magzter.com/article/Lifestyle/Esquire-Singapore/Taika-Waititi-Takes-On-The-Marvel-Star-Wars-And-Dc-Universes

        I still find it weird, I live in Australia, I'm just a NZer not a NZ born insert job here.

        It's about being pasifika, he says he's an NZ born (whatever island, I can't remember).

        North.

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          • D Darren

            @ACT-Crusader said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

            Scott Barrett, Akira, Sotutu c

            I actually thought SB played well, till he got tired and should have been subbed, but I can't bring myself to watch the game again to get another look.

            I'd like to see Akira, Sotutu and a change in winger and coach 🙂

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            @Darren Winger will never change 🙂

            Oh, you meant the AB squad. As you were!

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              Sooooo, when is the team named?

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              • pukunuiP pukunui

                Sooooo, when is the team named?

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                @pukunui said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

                Sooooo, when is the team named?

                yeah! fucking hell, i've got some outrage all saved up to throw at some usual suspects.

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                  So, hopefully, this is a narrow ABs win with no bonus point - meaning the only game of the year i have tickets to isn't a fucken dead rubber.

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                  • D Derpus

                    So, hopefully, this is a narrow ABs win with no bonus point - meaning the only game of the year i have tickets to isn't a fucken dead rubber.

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                    @Derpus said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

                    So, hopefully, this is a narrow ABs win with no bonus point - meaning the only game of the year i have tickets to isn't a fucken dead rubber.

                    the comp deserves a decider

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                    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                      @Derpus said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

                      So, hopefully, this is a narrow ABs win with no bonus point - meaning the only game of the year i have tickets to isn't a fucken dead rubber.

                      the comp deserves a decider

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                      @mariner4life said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

                      @Derpus said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

                      So, hopefully, this is a narrow ABs win with no bonus point - meaning the only game of the year i have tickets to isn't a fucken dead rubber.

                      the comp deserves a decider

                      not sure we 'deserve' to win eitehr - although in pro sport, there is no 'deserve'

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                        #177
                        1. Moody
                        2. Taylor
                        3. Laulala
                        4. Tuipolotu
                        5. Whitelock
                        6. Savea
                        7. Cane
                        8. Sotutu
                        9. Smith
                        10. Mo’unga
                        11. Clarke
                        12. Goodhue
                        13. ALB (rather the other way around tho)
                        14. Reece
                        15. B Barrett
                        16. Coles
                        17. Hodgeman
                        18. Lomax (due to limited options)
                        19. Vaai
                        20. Akira
                        21. Weber
                        22. McKenzie
                        23. Reiko
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                        • Y Yeahtheboys
                          1. Moody
                          2. Taylor
                          3. Laulala
                          4. Tuipolotu
                          5. Whitelock
                          6. Savea
                          7. Cane
                          8. Sotutu
                          9. Smith
                          10. Mo’unga
                          11. Clarke
                          12. Goodhue
                          13. ALB (rather the other way around tho)
                          14. Reece
                          15. B Barrett
                          16. Coles
                          17. Hodgeman
                          18. Lomax (due to limited options)
                          19. Vaai
                          20. Akira
                          21. Weber
                          22. McKenzie
                          23. Reiko
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                          #178

                          I think Frizell gets the chop

                          TJ has to get dropped for lack of performance otherwise squad culture goes to shit

                          Jordie hasn’t been bad, but not great so Sevu should get a go.

                          We need decent tight heads, with Ofa gone we’re clutching at straws

                          Tuipolotu gets his last chance before getting dropped from the 23 for next year

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                            1. Moody
                            2. Taylor
                            3. Laulala
                            4. Tuipolotu
                            5. Whitelock
                            6. Savea
                            7. Cane
                            8. Sotutu
                            9. Smith
                            10. Mo’unga
                            11. Clarke
                            12. Goodhue
                            13. ALB (rather the other way around tho)
                            14. Reece
                            15. B Barrett
                            16. Coles
                            17. Hodgeman
                            18. Lomax (due to limited options)
                            19. Vaai
                            20. Akira
                            21. Weber
                            22. McKenzie
                            23. Reiko
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                            @Yeahtheboys said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

                            1. Moody
                            2. Taylor
                            3. Laulala
                            4. Tuipolotu
                            5. Whitelock
                            6. Savea
                            7. Cane
                            8. Sotutu
                            9. Smith
                            10. Mo’unga
                            11. Clarke
                            12. Goodhue
                            13. ALB (rather the other way around tho)
                            14. Reece
                            15. B Barrett
                            16. Coles
                            17. Hodgeman
                            18. Lomax (due to limited options)
                            19. Vaai
                            20. Akira
                            21. Weber
                            22. McKenzie
                            23. Reiko

                            Ikira starts if Frizzy is dropped? Shirley?

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                            • HoorooH Hooroo

                              @Yeahtheboys said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

                              1. Moody
                              2. Taylor
                              3. Laulala
                              4. Tuipolotu
                              5. Whitelock
                              6. Savea
                              7. Cane
                              8. Sotutu
                              9. Smith
                              10. Mo’unga
                              11. Clarke
                              12. Goodhue
                              13. ALB (rather the other way around tho)
                              14. Reece
                              15. B Barrett
                              16. Coles
                              17. Hodgeman
                              18. Lomax (due to limited options)
                              19. Vaai
                              20. Akira
                              21. Weber
                              22. McKenzie
                              23. Reiko

                              Ikira starts if Frizzy is dropped? Shirley?

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                              @Hooroo I think Akira would be a bigger impact off the bench than Sotutu, also sotutu seems to shit himself at the end of the game so maybe let him play while pressure is off then take him off for Akira?

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                              • D Derpus

                                So, hopefully, this is a narrow ABs win with no bonus point - meaning the only game of the year i have tickets to isn't a fucken dead rubber.

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                                @Derpus said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

                                So, hopefully, this is a narrow ABs win with no bonus point - meaning the only game of the year i have tickets to isn't a fucken dead rubber.

                                I think another double-digit-margin Argie win with no bonus point would be infinitely more amusing. :smiling_face_with_sunglasses:

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                                  #182

                                  Team named and the sauce was good.

                                  https://www.allblacks.com/news/all-blacks-team-named-for-second-investec-tri-nations-test-against-argentina/

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                                    gt12
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                                    #183
                                    1. Joe Moody (49)
                                    2. Dane Coles (73)
                                    3. Nepo Laulala (28)
                                    4. Scott Barrett (39)
                                    5. Samuel Whitelock (121)
                                    6. Akira Ioane (1)
                                    7. Sam Cane (73) - captain
                                    8. Ardie Savea (48)
                                    9. Aaron Smith (96)
                                    10. Richie Mo'unga (21)
                                    11. Caleb Clarke (4)
                                    12. Jack Goodhue (17)
                                    13. Anton Lienert-Brown (48)
                                    14. Jordie Barrett (22)
                                    15. Beauden Barrett (88)
                                    16. Codie Taylor (56)
                                    17. Karl Tu'inukuafe (16)
                                    18. Tyrel Lomax (5)
                                    19. Patrick Tuipulotu (34)
                                    20. Hoskins Sotutu (4)
                                    21. TJ Perenara (68)
                                    22. Rieko Ioane (33)
                                    23. Will Jordan (1)
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                                    • gt12G gt12

                                      Team named and the sauce was good.

                                      https://www.allblacks.com/news/all-blacks-team-named-for-second-investec-tri-nations-test-against-argentina/

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                                      @gt12 said in Argentina Two: Newcastle, 28 November:

                                      Team named and the sauce was good.

                                      sauce is always good 🙂

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                                        #185

                                        Sotutu and Ioane should be starting.

                                        Hope the game is won by the time Perenara comes on. That's a player who really needs to cut the shit out on field.

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                                          8 and 14 are 2 positions a bit disappointed in.

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