Olympics Thread
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@Stargazer said in Olympics Thread:
@voodoo said in Olympics Thread:
Edit: just with swimming, if you've never been to a live meet, its actually really fun. The atmosphere you can generate in that sweaty little arena is pretty cool, and with races so short, its constant entertainment
I get that.
Having lived in the Netherlands for years as a teenager, I've seen quite a bit of ice speedskating. The 500m sprint is fun, but the long races are quite exciting to watch, too - once you understand a bit how building up a good 5km/10km race works (not dissimilar to running). For some, it's just some guys or gals skating big circles, but it's still one of my favourite sports of the Winter Olympics, along with downhill skiing, (grand) slalom and combined.
You won't see it in the Olympics, because Winter Olympics will never be held in the Netherlands, but the atmosphere at Thialf Ice Arena in Heerenveen is the best in the world. It's one big party!
Ice skating in Holland is kind of like rugby in NZ isn’t it? A national obsession and ridiculously high expectations.
@Rancid-Schnitzel Yep, ice speed skating is the most popular Winter sport, despite the fact that the last 3-4 decades, good quality natural ice is not always available (not cold enough). There are plenty of artificial ice arena's. Football is still no. 1 overall.
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@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
@voodoo said in Olympics Thread:
@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
@voodoo said in Olympics Thread:
Shit, I love the Olympics. I choose to ignore the drugs, just pretend it doesn't happen. Same as for the TdF. Ignorance is bliss.
I love seeing these young kids achieve their dreams.
I'll watch a final of just about anything, I only draw the line at anything synchronised or any of the walking events.
I get the stupidity of a million swimming events, but no point whining about that, they've been here forever. I also don't want to see anything added where the Olympics isn't the pinnacle achievement of the sport. So bye bye rugby, tennis, any soccer events. Even basketball could bugger off.
Cant remove all judging, that would remove boxing, wrestling, all gymnastics, and in any case is a judge that different from a ref?
It's a team sport and the ref isn't handing out judgement on artistic flair as well as technical merit.
Edit: just with swimming, if you've never been to a live meet, its actually really fun. The atmosphere you can generate in that sweaty little arena is pretty cool, and with races so short, its constant entertainment
Like slow tennis?
I just don't understand why in the modern era we give a shit who doggy paddles the fastest.
So you'd also ban diving? Anything that awards points for style? That's all gymnastics. Figure skating at the Winter Games too?
Yes. I simply don't value those as athletic achievements as I do people who can cover a set distance the fastest, jump the highest or fling themselves or something else the furthest.
I put Steven Bradbury's medal above Michael Phelps'.
I’m sorry but that last comment is the most ridiculous non-Winger thing I’ve ever read on TSF. Even Bradbury himself would give you a flick in the dick for that.
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Olympics Thread:
@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
I put Steven Bradbury's medal above Michael Phelps'.
I’m sorry but that last comment is the most ridiculous non-Winger thing I’ve ever read on TSF. Even Bradbury himself would give you a flick in the dick for that.
Correction. Phelps has won a single Olympic gold medal where he alone was the fastest over a distance: 200m freestyle. Paavo Nurmi and Carl Lewis are better Olympians.
@voodoo said in Olympics Thread:
@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
I put Steven Bradbury's medal above Michael Phelps'.
Leaving aside the ludicrous last comment, how can you not see the athletic achievement in sticking a landing on a double somersault with 3 fucking twists? Why on earth is throwing round ball of steel more impressive than that?
Sure it's demanding and technical. It doesn't fit the Olympic motto and requires judgement beyond the technical. Have a World Gymnastics Championship.
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Olympics Thread:
@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
I put Steven Bradbury's medal above Michael Phelps'.
I’m sorry but that last comment is the most ridiculous non-Winger thing I’ve ever read on TSF. Even Bradbury himself would give you a flick in the dick for that.
Correction. Phelps has won a single Olympic gold medal where he alone was the fastest over a distance: 200m freestyle. Paavo Nurmi and Carl Lewis are better Olympians.
@voodoo said in Olympics Thread:
@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
I put Steven Bradbury's medal above Michael Phelps'.
Leaving aside the ludicrous last comment, how can you not see the athletic achievement in sticking a landing on a double somersault with 3 fucking twists? Why on earth is throwing round ball of steel more impressive than that?
Sure it's demanding and technical. It doesn't fit the Olympic motto and requires judgement beyond the technical. Have a World Gymnastics Championship.
@antipodean couldn't disagree with you more. Stronger and higher have everything to do with gymnastics. The motto is not "stronger, higher, faster and 100% objectively assessed"
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Olympics Thread:
@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
I put Steven Bradbury's medal above Michael Phelps'.
I’m sorry but that last comment is the most ridiculous non-Winger thing I’ve ever read on TSF. Even Bradbury himself would give you a flick in the dick for that.
Correction. Phelps has won a single Olympic gold medal where he alone was the fastest over a distance: 200m freestyle. Paavo Nurmi and Carl Lewis are better Olympians.
@voodoo said in Olympics Thread:
@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
I put Steven Bradbury's medal above Michael Phelps'.
Leaving aside the ludicrous last comment, how can you not see the athletic achievement in sticking a landing on a double somersault with 3 fucking twists? Why on earth is throwing round ball of steel more impressive than that?
Sure it's demanding and technical. It doesn't fit the Olympic motto and requires judgement beyond the technical. Have a World Gymnastics Championship.
@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Olympics Thread:
@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
I put Steven Bradbury's medal above Michael Phelps'.
I’m sorry but that last comment is the most ridiculous non-Winger thing I’ve ever read on TSF. Even Bradbury himself would give you a flick in the dick for that.
Correction. Phelps has won a single Olympic gold medal where he alone was the fastest over a distance: 200m freestyle. Paavo Nurmi and Carl Lewis are better Olympians.
@voodoo said in Olympics Thread:
@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
I put Steven Bradbury's medal above Michael Phelps'.
Leaving aside the ludicrous last comment, how can you not see the athletic achievement in sticking a landing on a double somersault with 3 fucking twists? Why on earth is throwing round ball of steel more impressive than that?
Sure it's demanding and technical. It doesn't fit the Olympic motto and requires judgement beyond the technical. Have a World Gymnastics Championship.
So relays and any team sports don’t count? And if apparently the fastest means of getting from A to B is the only thing that deserves recognition, what about hurdles? Different weight classes in lifting and wrestling?
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Well if you're a midget that presses only 80kg, why should you get the same medal as someone who can do triple that?
At least with hurdles regardless of how many,how high or the distance covered, the first person to cross the line is still first.
People complain about the cost of hosting Olympics, my solution drastically alters that.
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Another Fern thread turns rapidly into 'grumpy old men'.
I love the Olympics, and I'll watch pretty much everything. I just enjoy watching the best in the world competing against one another, no matter what that may be.
I cringe a little at the addition of breakdancing and competitive climbing, but you know what? I'll probably watch it and I reckon I'll get into it too. By the end I'll be an expert - "ahh yes Finland have such a great pipeline of breakdancing talent, no surprise to see them dominate the medals".
I can't wait for Tokyo, also because of the advances of TV coverage. As Rancid said, you don't have to sit through swimming heats or early round hockey games, I can watch the obscure finals like the 10m air pistol or the team fencing.
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I like the olympics, still, but it is too big. Adding more sports just makes me like it a bit less.
I like the diving and gymnastics. Especially now I have a girl dominated house.
Athletics is my absolute favourite, though.
Swimming, I do find myself feeling resentment at the confetti medals that other athletes aren't favoured with. Rather than radiating warmth to them via my my tv.
I'm a traditionalist though, so I like the traditional sports, but yeah ... I watched BMX when we had medal chances .....
It is good now with the multi-channels so I don't have sit through TVNZ assuming I care about an NZ womens football or basketball group match.
Of the team sports - only interested in hockey, basketball, volleyball.
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Well if you're a midget that presses only 80kg, why should you get the same medal as someone who can do triple that?
At least with hurdles regardless of how many,how high or the distance covered, the first person to cross the line is still first.
People complain about the cost of hosting Olympics, my solution drastically alters that.
@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
Well if you're a midget that presses only 80kg, why should you get the same medal as someone who can do triple that?
At least with hurdles regardless of how many,how high or the distance covered, the first person to cross the line is still first.
People complain about the cost of hosting Olympics, my solution drastically alters that.
So women need not apply as well? That would definitely cut costs.
And aren’t people swimming butterfly, backstroke etc also crossing the line first?
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I like the olympics, still, but it is too big. Adding more sports just makes me like it a bit less.
I like the diving and gymnastics. Especially now I have a girl dominated house.
Athletics is my absolute favourite, though.
Swimming, I do find myself feeling resentment at the confetti medals that other athletes aren't favoured with. Rather than radiating warmth to them via my my tv.
I'm a traditionalist though, so I like the traditional sports, but yeah ... I watched BMX when we had medal chances .....
It is good now with the multi-channels so I don't have sit through TVNZ assuming I care about an NZ womens football or basketball group match.
Of the team sports - only interested in hockey, basketball, volleyball.
@Rapido said in Olympics Thread:
I like the olympics, still, but it is too big. Adding more sports just makes me like it a bit less.
I like the diving and gymnastics. Especially now I have a girl dominated house.
Athletics is my absolute favourite, though.
Swimming, I do find myself feeling resentment at the confetti medals that other athletes aren't favoured with. Rather than radiating warmth to them via my my tv.
I'm a traditionalist though, so I like the traditional sports, but yeah ... I watched BMX when we had medal chances .....
It is good now with the multi-channels so I don't have sit through TVNZ assuming I care about an NZ womens football or basketball group match.
Of the team sports - only interested in hockey, basketball, volleyball.
For some reason swimming in the summer games and cross country skiing in the winter games were gifted heaps of medals. Good for Australia and Norway I guess.
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@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
Well if you're a midget that presses only 80kg, why should you get the same medal as someone who can do triple that?
At least with hurdles regardless of how many,how high or the distance covered, the first person to cross the line is still first.
People complain about the cost of hosting Olympics, my solution drastically alters that.
So women need not apply as well? That would definitely cut costs.
And aren’t people swimming butterfly, backstroke etc also crossing the line first?
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Olympics Thread:
@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
Well if you're a midget that presses only 80kg, why should you get the same medal as someone who can do triple that?
At least with hurdles regardless of how many,how high or the distance covered, the first person to cross the line is still first.
People complain about the cost of hosting Olympics, my solution drastically alters that.
So women need not apply as well? That would definitely cut costs.
Surely they have their own competitions, unless you believe they shouldn't particpate.
And aren’t people swimming butterfly, backstroke etc also crossing the line first?
They're swimming the same distance aren't they?
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@Rapido said in Olympics Thread:
I like the olympics, still, but it is too big. Adding more sports just makes me like it a bit less.
I like the diving and gymnastics. Especially now I have a girl dominated house.
Athletics is my absolute favourite, though.
Swimming, I do find myself feeling resentment at the confetti medals that other athletes aren't favoured with. Rather than radiating warmth to them via my my tv.
I'm a traditionalist though, so I like the traditional sports, but yeah ... I watched BMX when we had medal chances .....
It is good now with the multi-channels so I don't have sit through TVNZ assuming I care about an NZ womens football or basketball group match.
Of the team sports - only interested in hockey, basketball, volleyball.
For some reason swimming in the summer games and cross country skiing in the winter games were gifted heaps of medals. Good for Australia and Norway I guess.
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Olympics Thread:
@Rapido said in Olympics Thread:
I like the olympics, still, but it is too big. Adding more sports just makes me like it a bit less.
I like the diving and gymnastics. Especially now I have a girl dominated house.
Athletics is my absolute favourite, though.
Swimming, I do find myself feeling resentment at the confetti medals that other athletes aren't favoured with. Rather than radiating warmth to them via my my tv.
I'm a traditionalist though, so I like the traditional sports, but yeah ... I watched BMX when we had medal chances .....
It is good now with the multi-channels so I don't have sit through TVNZ assuming I care about an NZ womens football or basketball group match.
Of the team sports - only interested in hockey, basketball, volleyball.
For some reason swimming in the summer games and cross country skiing in the winter games were gifted heaps of medals. Good for Australia and Norway I guess.
And America
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Olympics Thread:
@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
Well if you're a midget that presses only 80kg, why should you get the same medal as someone who can do triple that?
At least with hurdles regardless of how many,how high or the distance covered, the first person to cross the line is still first.
People complain about the cost of hosting Olympics, my solution drastically alters that.
So women need not apply as well? That would definitely cut costs.
Surely they have their own competitions, unless you believe they shouldn't particpate.
And aren’t people swimming butterfly, backstroke etc also crossing the line first?
They're swimming the same distance aren't they?
@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Olympics Thread:
@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
Well if you're a midget that presses only 80kg, why should you get the same medal as someone who can do triple that?
At least with hurdles regardless of how many,how high or the distance covered, the first person to cross the line is still first.
People complain about the cost of hosting Olympics, my solution drastically alters that.
So women need not apply as well? That would definitely cut costs.
Surely they have their own competitions, unless you believe they shouldn't particpate.
And aren’t people swimming butterfly, backstroke etc also crossing the line first?
They're swimming the same distance aren't they?
Why should they be allowed to compete if the men are much faster and stronger. That’s what it’s all about isn’t it?
Aren’t hurdlers running the same distance? If the objective is to get from A to B as fast as possible according to a certain set of rules does it really matter? It’s not like shortcourse speed skating is the fastest and most efficient way of getting from A to B.
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I would add that butterfly swum properly is absolutely beautiful to watch. It’s a bloody hard stroke to get right and is murder on the body. Anyone who does 200 butterfly is a masochist.
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@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Olympics Thread:
@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
Well if you're a midget that presses only 80kg, why should you get the same medal as someone who can do triple that?
At least with hurdles regardless of how many,how high or the distance covered, the first person to cross the line is still first.
People complain about the cost of hosting Olympics, my solution drastically alters that.
So women need not apply as well? That would definitely cut costs.
Surely they have their own competitions, unless you believe they shouldn't particpate.
And aren’t people swimming butterfly, backstroke etc also crossing the line first?
They're swimming the same distance aren't they?
Why should they be allowed to compete if the men are much faster and stronger. That’s what it’s all about isn’t it?
Aren’t hurdlers running the same distance? If the objective is to get from A to B as fast as possible according to a certain set of rules does it really matter? It’s not like shortcourse speed skating is the fastest and most efficient way of getting from A to B.
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Olympics Thread:
@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Olympics Thread:
@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
Well if you're a midget that presses only 80kg, why should you get the same medal as someone who can do triple that?
At least with hurdles regardless of how many,how high or the distance covered, the first person to cross the line is still first.
People complain about the cost of hosting Olympics, my solution drastically alters that.
So women need not apply as well? That would definitely cut costs.
Surely they have their own competitions, unless you believe they shouldn't particpate.
And aren’t people swimming butterfly, backstroke etc also crossing the line first?
They're swimming the same distance aren't they?
Why should they be allowed to compete if the men are much faster and stronger. That’s what it’s all about isn’t it?
Are you now a trans advocate?
Aren’t hurdlers running the same distance?
110m isn't the same length as 100m. The clue is the extra 10m.
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Olympics Thread:
@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Olympics Thread:
@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
Well if you're a midget that presses only 80kg, why should you get the same medal as someone who can do triple that?
At least with hurdles regardless of how many,how high or the distance covered, the first person to cross the line is still first.
People complain about the cost of hosting Olympics, my solution drastically alters that.
So women need not apply as well? That would definitely cut costs.
Surely they have their own competitions, unless you believe they shouldn't particpate.
And aren’t people swimming butterfly, backstroke etc also crossing the line first?
They're swimming the same distance aren't they?
Why should they be allowed to compete if the men are much faster and stronger. That’s what it’s all about isn’t it?
Are you now a trans advocate?
Aren’t hurdlers running the same distance?
110m isn't the same length as 100m. The clue is the extra 10m.
@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Olympics Thread:
@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Olympics Thread:
@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
Well if you're a midget that presses only 80kg, why should you get the same medal as someone who can do triple that?
At least with hurdles regardless of how many,how high or the distance covered, the first person to cross the line is still first.
People complain about the cost of hosting Olympics, my solution drastically alters that.
So women need not apply as well? That would definitely cut costs.
Surely they have their own competitions, unless you believe they shouldn't particpate.
And aren’t people swimming butterfly, backstroke etc also crossing the line first?
They're swimming the same distance aren't they?
Why should they be allowed to compete if the men are much faster and stronger. That’s what it’s all about isn’t it?
Are you now a trans advocate?
Aren’t hurdlers running the same distance?
110m isn't the same length as 100m. The clue is the extra 10m.
Don’t shoot the messenger. You’re the one advocating for only the very strongest and fastest.
A whole 10 metres! And the 400 metre hurdles?
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@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Olympics Thread:
@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Olympics Thread:
@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
Well if you're a midget that presses only 80kg, why should you get the same medal as someone who can do triple that?
At least with hurdles regardless of how many,how high or the distance covered, the first person to cross the line is still first.
People complain about the cost of hosting Olympics, my solution drastically alters that.
So women need not apply as well? That would definitely cut costs.
Surely they have their own competitions, unless you believe they shouldn't particpate.
And aren’t people swimming butterfly, backstroke etc also crossing the line first?
They're swimming the same distance aren't they?
Why should they be allowed to compete if the men are much faster and stronger. That’s what it’s all about isn’t it?
Are you now a trans advocate?
Aren’t hurdlers running the same distance?
110m isn't the same length as 100m. The clue is the extra 10m.
Don’t shoot the messenger. You’re the one advocating for only the very strongest and fastest.
A whole 10 metres! And the 400 metre hurdles?
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Olympics Thread:
@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Olympics Thread:
@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Olympics Thread:
@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
Well if you're a midget that presses only 80kg, why should you get the same medal as someone who can do triple that?
At least with hurdles regardless of how many,how high or the distance covered, the first person to cross the line is still first.
People complain about the cost of hosting Olympics, my solution drastically alters that.
So women need not apply as well? That would definitely cut costs.
Surely they have their own competitions, unless you believe they shouldn't particpate.
And aren’t people swimming butterfly, backstroke etc also crossing the line first?
They're swimming the same distance aren't they?
Why should they be allowed to compete if the men are much faster and stronger. That’s what it’s all about isn’t it?
Are you now a trans advocate?
Aren’t hurdlers running the same distance?
110m isn't the same length as 100m. The clue is the extra 10m.
Don’t shoot the messenger. You’re the one advocating for only the very strongest and fastest.
Messenger
If you don't want women to compete against each other, simply say so. Then you can advocate for the removal of the Paralympics. I'm just expressing a desire for events to have meaningful relationship to the Olympic motto but I can see where that would hit a nerve with a pet shit sport of other people.
A whole 10 metres!
Congrats,you can now do simple maths.
And the 400 metre hurdles?
Get rid of it too if it makes you happy.
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Olympics Thread:
@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Olympics Thread:
@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Olympics Thread:
@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
Well if you're a midget that presses only 80kg, why should you get the same medal as someone who can do triple that?
At least with hurdles regardless of how many,how high or the distance covered, the first person to cross the line is still first.
People complain about the cost of hosting Olympics, my solution drastically alters that.
So women need not apply as well? That would definitely cut costs.
Surely they have their own competitions, unless you believe they shouldn't particpate.
And aren’t people swimming butterfly, backstroke etc also crossing the line first?
They're swimming the same distance aren't they?
Why should they be allowed to compete if the men are much faster and stronger. That’s what it’s all about isn’t it?
Are you now a trans advocate?
Aren’t hurdlers running the same distance?
110m isn't the same length as 100m. The clue is the extra 10m.
Don’t shoot the messenger. You’re the one advocating for only the very strongest and fastest.
Messenger
If you don't want women to compete against each other, simply say so. Then you can advocate for the removal of the Paralympics. I'm just expressing a desire for events to have meaningful relationship to the Olympic motto but I can see where that would hit a nerve with a pet shit sport of other people.
A whole 10 metres!
Congrats,you can now do simple maths.
And the 400 metre hurdles?
Get rid of it too if it makes you happy.
@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Olympics Thread:
@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Olympics Thread:
@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Olympics Thread:
@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
Well if you're a midget that presses only 80kg, why should you get the same medal as someone who can do triple that?
At least with hurdles regardless of how many,how high or the distance covered, the first person to cross the line is still first.
People complain about the cost of hosting Olympics, my solution drastically alters that.
So women need not apply as well? That would definitely cut costs.
Surely they have their own competitions, unless you believe they shouldn't particpate.
And aren’t people swimming butterfly, backstroke etc also crossing the line first?
They're swimming the same distance aren't they?
Why should they be allowed to compete if the men are much faster and stronger. That’s what it’s all about isn’t it?
Are you now a trans advocate?
Aren’t hurdlers running the same distance?
110m isn't the same length as 100m. The clue is the extra 10m.
Don’t shoot the messenger. You’re the one advocating for only the very strongest and fastest.
Messenger
If you don't want women to compete against each other, simply say so. Then you can advocate for the removal of the Paralympics. I'm just expressing a desire for events to have meaningful relationship to the Olympic motto but I can see where that would hit a nerve with a pet shit sport of other people.
A whole 10 metres!
Congrats,you can now do simple maths.
And the 400 metre hurdles?
Get rid of it too if it makes you happy.
This has taken a turn for the surreal.
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So who thinks this is going ahead next year?
"Tokyo reported 572 new infections on Wednesday – its second-highest daily figure since the pandemic began – following a record 584 infections on Saturday. The capital, the worst-hit region in Japan with a total of almost 45,000 cases, is due to host the Olympic Games in just over six months’ time, with test events scheduled to resume as early as the first week of March"
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So who thinks this is going ahead next year?
"Tokyo reported 572 new infections on Wednesday – its second-highest daily figure since the pandemic began – following a record 584 infections on Saturday. The capital, the worst-hit region in Japan with a total of almost 45,000 cases, is due to host the Olympic Games in just over six months’ time, with test events scheduled to resume as early as the first week of March"
@Machpants I have strong doubts; already had them before this latest outbreak in Japan. Simply because there are still so many countries with new cases. also among their sports teams.
I think it will only go ahead if players and staff are all vaccinated or go through a lengthy quarantine (lengthy, to allow possibly infected players to recover), and then still they risk playing in empty stadiums.
