Olympics Thread
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Olympics Thread:
@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
I put Steven Bradbury's medal above Michael Phelps'.
I’m sorry but that last comment is the most ridiculous non-Winger thing I’ve ever read on TSF. Even Bradbury himself would give you a flick in the dick for that.
Correction. Phelps has won a single Olympic gold medal where he alone was the fastest over a distance: 200m freestyle. Paavo Nurmi and Carl Lewis are better Olympians.
@voodoo said in Olympics Thread:
@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
I put Steven Bradbury's medal above Michael Phelps'.
Leaving aside the ludicrous last comment, how can you not see the athletic achievement in sticking a landing on a double somersault with 3 fucking twists? Why on earth is throwing round ball of steel more impressive than that?
Sure it's demanding and technical. It doesn't fit the Olympic motto and requires judgement beyond the technical. Have a World Gymnastics Championship.
@antipodean couldn't disagree with you more. Stronger and higher have everything to do with gymnastics. The motto is not "stronger, higher, faster and 100% objectively assessed"
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Olympics Thread:
@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
I put Steven Bradbury's medal above Michael Phelps'.
I’m sorry but that last comment is the most ridiculous non-Winger thing I’ve ever read on TSF. Even Bradbury himself would give you a flick in the dick for that.
Correction. Phelps has won a single Olympic gold medal where he alone was the fastest over a distance: 200m freestyle. Paavo Nurmi and Carl Lewis are better Olympians.
@voodoo said in Olympics Thread:
@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
I put Steven Bradbury's medal above Michael Phelps'.
Leaving aside the ludicrous last comment, how can you not see the athletic achievement in sticking a landing on a double somersault with 3 fucking twists? Why on earth is throwing round ball of steel more impressive than that?
Sure it's demanding and technical. It doesn't fit the Olympic motto and requires judgement beyond the technical. Have a World Gymnastics Championship.
@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Olympics Thread:
@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
I put Steven Bradbury's medal above Michael Phelps'.
I’m sorry but that last comment is the most ridiculous non-Winger thing I’ve ever read on TSF. Even Bradbury himself would give you a flick in the dick for that.
Correction. Phelps has won a single Olympic gold medal where he alone was the fastest over a distance: 200m freestyle. Paavo Nurmi and Carl Lewis are better Olympians.
@voodoo said in Olympics Thread:
@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
I put Steven Bradbury's medal above Michael Phelps'.
Leaving aside the ludicrous last comment, how can you not see the athletic achievement in sticking a landing on a double somersault with 3 fucking twists? Why on earth is throwing round ball of steel more impressive than that?
Sure it's demanding and technical. It doesn't fit the Olympic motto and requires judgement beyond the technical. Have a World Gymnastics Championship.
So relays and any team sports don’t count? And if apparently the fastest means of getting from A to B is the only thing that deserves recognition, what about hurdles? Different weight classes in lifting and wrestling?
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Well if you're a midget that presses only 80kg, why should you get the same medal as someone who can do triple that?
At least with hurdles regardless of how many,how high or the distance covered, the first person to cross the line is still first.
People complain about the cost of hosting Olympics, my solution drastically alters that.
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Another Fern thread turns rapidly into 'grumpy old men'.
I love the Olympics, and I'll watch pretty much everything. I just enjoy watching the best in the world competing against one another, no matter what that may be.
I cringe a little at the addition of breakdancing and competitive climbing, but you know what? I'll probably watch it and I reckon I'll get into it too. By the end I'll be an expert - "ahh yes Finland have such a great pipeline of breakdancing talent, no surprise to see them dominate the medals".
I can't wait for Tokyo, also because of the advances of TV coverage. As Rancid said, you don't have to sit through swimming heats or early round hockey games, I can watch the obscure finals like the 10m air pistol or the team fencing.
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I like the olympics, still, but it is too big. Adding more sports just makes me like it a bit less.
I like the diving and gymnastics. Especially now I have a girl dominated house.
Athletics is my absolute favourite, though.
Swimming, I do find myself feeling resentment at the confetti medals that other athletes aren't favoured with. Rather than radiating warmth to them via my my tv.
I'm a traditionalist though, so I like the traditional sports, but yeah ... I watched BMX when we had medal chances .....
It is good now with the multi-channels so I don't have sit through TVNZ assuming I care about an NZ womens football or basketball group match.
Of the team sports - only interested in hockey, basketball, volleyball.
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Well if you're a midget that presses only 80kg, why should you get the same medal as someone who can do triple that?
At least with hurdles regardless of how many,how high or the distance covered, the first person to cross the line is still first.
People complain about the cost of hosting Olympics, my solution drastically alters that.
@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
Well if you're a midget that presses only 80kg, why should you get the same medal as someone who can do triple that?
At least with hurdles regardless of how many,how high or the distance covered, the first person to cross the line is still first.
People complain about the cost of hosting Olympics, my solution drastically alters that.
So women need not apply as well? That would definitely cut costs.
And aren’t people swimming butterfly, backstroke etc also crossing the line first?
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I like the olympics, still, but it is too big. Adding more sports just makes me like it a bit less.
I like the diving and gymnastics. Especially now I have a girl dominated house.
Athletics is my absolute favourite, though.
Swimming, I do find myself feeling resentment at the confetti medals that other athletes aren't favoured with. Rather than radiating warmth to them via my my tv.
I'm a traditionalist though, so I like the traditional sports, but yeah ... I watched BMX when we had medal chances .....
It is good now with the multi-channels so I don't have sit through TVNZ assuming I care about an NZ womens football or basketball group match.
Of the team sports - only interested in hockey, basketball, volleyball.
@Rapido said in Olympics Thread:
I like the olympics, still, but it is too big. Adding more sports just makes me like it a bit less.
I like the diving and gymnastics. Especially now I have a girl dominated house.
Athletics is my absolute favourite, though.
Swimming, I do find myself feeling resentment at the confetti medals that other athletes aren't favoured with. Rather than radiating warmth to them via my my tv.
I'm a traditionalist though, so I like the traditional sports, but yeah ... I watched BMX when we had medal chances .....
It is good now with the multi-channels so I don't have sit through TVNZ assuming I care about an NZ womens football or basketball group match.
Of the team sports - only interested in hockey, basketball, volleyball.
For some reason swimming in the summer games and cross country skiing in the winter games were gifted heaps of medals. Good for Australia and Norway I guess.
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@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
Well if you're a midget that presses only 80kg, why should you get the same medal as someone who can do triple that?
At least with hurdles regardless of how many,how high or the distance covered, the first person to cross the line is still first.
People complain about the cost of hosting Olympics, my solution drastically alters that.
So women need not apply as well? That would definitely cut costs.
And aren’t people swimming butterfly, backstroke etc also crossing the line first?
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Olympics Thread:
@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
Well if you're a midget that presses only 80kg, why should you get the same medal as someone who can do triple that?
At least with hurdles regardless of how many,how high or the distance covered, the first person to cross the line is still first.
People complain about the cost of hosting Olympics, my solution drastically alters that.
So women need not apply as well? That would definitely cut costs.
Surely they have their own competitions, unless you believe they shouldn't particpate.
And aren’t people swimming butterfly, backstroke etc also crossing the line first?
They're swimming the same distance aren't they?
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@Rapido said in Olympics Thread:
I like the olympics, still, but it is too big. Adding more sports just makes me like it a bit less.
I like the diving and gymnastics. Especially now I have a girl dominated house.
Athletics is my absolute favourite, though.
Swimming, I do find myself feeling resentment at the confetti medals that other athletes aren't favoured with. Rather than radiating warmth to them via my my tv.
I'm a traditionalist though, so I like the traditional sports, but yeah ... I watched BMX when we had medal chances .....
It is good now with the multi-channels so I don't have sit through TVNZ assuming I care about an NZ womens football or basketball group match.
Of the team sports - only interested in hockey, basketball, volleyball.
For some reason swimming in the summer games and cross country skiing in the winter games were gifted heaps of medals. Good for Australia and Norway I guess.
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Olympics Thread:
@Rapido said in Olympics Thread:
I like the olympics, still, but it is too big. Adding more sports just makes me like it a bit less.
I like the diving and gymnastics. Especially now I have a girl dominated house.
Athletics is my absolute favourite, though.
Swimming, I do find myself feeling resentment at the confetti medals that other athletes aren't favoured with. Rather than radiating warmth to them via my my tv.
I'm a traditionalist though, so I like the traditional sports, but yeah ... I watched BMX when we had medal chances .....
It is good now with the multi-channels so I don't have sit through TVNZ assuming I care about an NZ womens football or basketball group match.
Of the team sports - only interested in hockey, basketball, volleyball.
For some reason swimming in the summer games and cross country skiing in the winter games were gifted heaps of medals. Good for Australia and Norway I guess.
And America
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Olympics Thread:
@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
Well if you're a midget that presses only 80kg, why should you get the same medal as someone who can do triple that?
At least with hurdles regardless of how many,how high or the distance covered, the first person to cross the line is still first.
People complain about the cost of hosting Olympics, my solution drastically alters that.
So women need not apply as well? That would definitely cut costs.
Surely they have their own competitions, unless you believe they shouldn't particpate.
And aren’t people swimming butterfly, backstroke etc also crossing the line first?
They're swimming the same distance aren't they?
@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Olympics Thread:
@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
Well if you're a midget that presses only 80kg, why should you get the same medal as someone who can do triple that?
At least with hurdles regardless of how many,how high or the distance covered, the first person to cross the line is still first.
People complain about the cost of hosting Olympics, my solution drastically alters that.
So women need not apply as well? That would definitely cut costs.
Surely they have their own competitions, unless you believe they shouldn't particpate.
And aren’t people swimming butterfly, backstroke etc also crossing the line first?
They're swimming the same distance aren't they?
Why should they be allowed to compete if the men are much faster and stronger. That’s what it’s all about isn’t it?
Aren’t hurdlers running the same distance? If the objective is to get from A to B as fast as possible according to a certain set of rules does it really matter? It’s not like shortcourse speed skating is the fastest and most efficient way of getting from A to B.
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I would add that butterfly swum properly is absolutely beautiful to watch. It’s a bloody hard stroke to get right and is murder on the body. Anyone who does 200 butterfly is a masochist.
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@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Olympics Thread:
@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
Well if you're a midget that presses only 80kg, why should you get the same medal as someone who can do triple that?
At least with hurdles regardless of how many,how high or the distance covered, the first person to cross the line is still first.
People complain about the cost of hosting Olympics, my solution drastically alters that.
So women need not apply as well? That would definitely cut costs.
Surely they have their own competitions, unless you believe they shouldn't particpate.
And aren’t people swimming butterfly, backstroke etc also crossing the line first?
They're swimming the same distance aren't they?
Why should they be allowed to compete if the men are much faster and stronger. That’s what it’s all about isn’t it?
Aren’t hurdlers running the same distance? If the objective is to get from A to B as fast as possible according to a certain set of rules does it really matter? It’s not like shortcourse speed skating is the fastest and most efficient way of getting from A to B.
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Olympics Thread:
@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Olympics Thread:
@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
Well if you're a midget that presses only 80kg, why should you get the same medal as someone who can do triple that?
At least with hurdles regardless of how many,how high or the distance covered, the first person to cross the line is still first.
People complain about the cost of hosting Olympics, my solution drastically alters that.
So women need not apply as well? That would definitely cut costs.
Surely they have their own competitions, unless you believe they shouldn't particpate.
And aren’t people swimming butterfly, backstroke etc also crossing the line first?
They're swimming the same distance aren't they?
Why should they be allowed to compete if the men are much faster and stronger. That’s what it’s all about isn’t it?
Are you now a trans advocate?
Aren’t hurdlers running the same distance?
110m isn't the same length as 100m. The clue is the extra 10m.
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Olympics Thread:
@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Olympics Thread:
@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
Well if you're a midget that presses only 80kg, why should you get the same medal as someone who can do triple that?
At least with hurdles regardless of how many,how high or the distance covered, the first person to cross the line is still first.
People complain about the cost of hosting Olympics, my solution drastically alters that.
So women need not apply as well? That would definitely cut costs.
Surely they have their own competitions, unless you believe they shouldn't particpate.
And aren’t people swimming butterfly, backstroke etc also crossing the line first?
They're swimming the same distance aren't they?
Why should they be allowed to compete if the men are much faster and stronger. That’s what it’s all about isn’t it?
Are you now a trans advocate?
Aren’t hurdlers running the same distance?
110m isn't the same length as 100m. The clue is the extra 10m.
@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Olympics Thread:
@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Olympics Thread:
@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
Well if you're a midget that presses only 80kg, why should you get the same medal as someone who can do triple that?
At least with hurdles regardless of how many,how high or the distance covered, the first person to cross the line is still first.
People complain about the cost of hosting Olympics, my solution drastically alters that.
So women need not apply as well? That would definitely cut costs.
Surely they have their own competitions, unless you believe they shouldn't particpate.
And aren’t people swimming butterfly, backstroke etc also crossing the line first?
They're swimming the same distance aren't they?
Why should they be allowed to compete if the men are much faster and stronger. That’s what it’s all about isn’t it?
Are you now a trans advocate?
Aren’t hurdlers running the same distance?
110m isn't the same length as 100m. The clue is the extra 10m.
Don’t shoot the messenger. You’re the one advocating for only the very strongest and fastest.
A whole 10 metres! And the 400 metre hurdles?
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@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Olympics Thread:
@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Olympics Thread:
@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
Well if you're a midget that presses only 80kg, why should you get the same medal as someone who can do triple that?
At least with hurdles regardless of how many,how high or the distance covered, the first person to cross the line is still first.
People complain about the cost of hosting Olympics, my solution drastically alters that.
So women need not apply as well? That would definitely cut costs.
Surely they have their own competitions, unless you believe they shouldn't particpate.
And aren’t people swimming butterfly, backstroke etc also crossing the line first?
They're swimming the same distance aren't they?
Why should they be allowed to compete if the men are much faster and stronger. That’s what it’s all about isn’t it?
Are you now a trans advocate?
Aren’t hurdlers running the same distance?
110m isn't the same length as 100m. The clue is the extra 10m.
Don’t shoot the messenger. You’re the one advocating for only the very strongest and fastest.
A whole 10 metres! And the 400 metre hurdles?
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Olympics Thread:
@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Olympics Thread:
@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Olympics Thread:
@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
Well if you're a midget that presses only 80kg, why should you get the same medal as someone who can do triple that?
At least with hurdles regardless of how many,how high or the distance covered, the first person to cross the line is still first.
People complain about the cost of hosting Olympics, my solution drastically alters that.
So women need not apply as well? That would definitely cut costs.
Surely they have their own competitions, unless you believe they shouldn't particpate.
And aren’t people swimming butterfly, backstroke etc also crossing the line first?
They're swimming the same distance aren't they?
Why should they be allowed to compete if the men are much faster and stronger. That’s what it’s all about isn’t it?
Are you now a trans advocate?
Aren’t hurdlers running the same distance?
110m isn't the same length as 100m. The clue is the extra 10m.
Don’t shoot the messenger. You’re the one advocating for only the very strongest and fastest.
Messenger
If you don't want women to compete against each other, simply say so. Then you can advocate for the removal of the Paralympics. I'm just expressing a desire for events to have meaningful relationship to the Olympic motto but I can see where that would hit a nerve with a pet shit sport of other people.
A whole 10 metres!
Congrats,you can now do simple maths.
And the 400 metre hurdles?
Get rid of it too if it makes you happy.
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Olympics Thread:
@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Olympics Thread:
@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Olympics Thread:
@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
Well if you're a midget that presses only 80kg, why should you get the same medal as someone who can do triple that?
At least with hurdles regardless of how many,how high or the distance covered, the first person to cross the line is still first.
People complain about the cost of hosting Olympics, my solution drastically alters that.
So women need not apply as well? That would definitely cut costs.
Surely they have their own competitions, unless you believe they shouldn't particpate.
And aren’t people swimming butterfly, backstroke etc also crossing the line first?
They're swimming the same distance aren't they?
Why should they be allowed to compete if the men are much faster and stronger. That’s what it’s all about isn’t it?
Are you now a trans advocate?
Aren’t hurdlers running the same distance?
110m isn't the same length as 100m. The clue is the extra 10m.
Don’t shoot the messenger. You’re the one advocating for only the very strongest and fastest.
Messenger
If you don't want women to compete against each other, simply say so. Then you can advocate for the removal of the Paralympics. I'm just expressing a desire for events to have meaningful relationship to the Olympic motto but I can see where that would hit a nerve with a pet shit sport of other people.
A whole 10 metres!
Congrats,you can now do simple maths.
And the 400 metre hurdles?
Get rid of it too if it makes you happy.
@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Olympics Thread:
@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Olympics Thread:
@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Olympics Thread:
@antipodean said in Olympics Thread:
Well if you're a midget that presses only 80kg, why should you get the same medal as someone who can do triple that?
At least with hurdles regardless of how many,how high or the distance covered, the first person to cross the line is still first.
People complain about the cost of hosting Olympics, my solution drastically alters that.
So women need not apply as well? That would definitely cut costs.
Surely they have their own competitions, unless you believe they shouldn't particpate.
And aren’t people swimming butterfly, backstroke etc also crossing the line first?
They're swimming the same distance aren't they?
Why should they be allowed to compete if the men are much faster and stronger. That’s what it’s all about isn’t it?
Are you now a trans advocate?
Aren’t hurdlers running the same distance?
110m isn't the same length as 100m. The clue is the extra 10m.
Don’t shoot the messenger. You’re the one advocating for only the very strongest and fastest.
Messenger
If you don't want women to compete against each other, simply say so. Then you can advocate for the removal of the Paralympics. I'm just expressing a desire for events to have meaningful relationship to the Olympic motto but I can see where that would hit a nerve with a pet shit sport of other people.
A whole 10 metres!
Congrats,you can now do simple maths.
And the 400 metre hurdles?
Get rid of it too if it makes you happy.
This has taken a turn for the surreal.
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So who thinks this is going ahead next year?
"Tokyo reported 572 new infections on Wednesday – its second-highest daily figure since the pandemic began – following a record 584 infections on Saturday. The capital, the worst-hit region in Japan with a total of almost 45,000 cases, is due to host the Olympic Games in just over six months’ time, with test events scheduled to resume as early as the first week of March"
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So who thinks this is going ahead next year?
"Tokyo reported 572 new infections on Wednesday – its second-highest daily figure since the pandemic began – following a record 584 infections on Saturday. The capital, the worst-hit region in Japan with a total of almost 45,000 cases, is due to host the Olympic Games in just over six months’ time, with test events scheduled to resume as early as the first week of March"
@Machpants I have strong doubts; already had them before this latest outbreak in Japan. Simply because there are still so many countries with new cases. also among their sports teams.
I think it will only go ahead if players and staff are all vaccinated or go through a lengthy quarantine (lengthy, to allow possibly infected players to recover), and then still they risk playing in empty stadiums.
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@Machpants I have strong doubts; already had them before this latest outbreak in Japan. Simply because there are still so many countries with new cases. also among their sports teams.
I think it will only go ahead if players and staff are all vaccinated or go through a lengthy quarantine (lengthy, to allow possibly infected players to recover), and then still they risk playing in empty stadiums.
@Stargazer said in Olympics Thread:
@Machpants I have strong doubts; already had them before this latest outbreak in Japan. Simply because there are still so many countries with new cases. also among their sports teams.
I think it will only go ahead if players and staff are all vaccinated or go through a lengthy quarantine (lengthy, to allow possibly infected players to recover), and then still they risk playing in empty stadiums.
I'm sure that if it happens, it will be something like this.
I do know that some planning is already underway here (related to my work) but I'm sceptical that they can put on a 'full' games with spectators from other countries.
My guess: It happens with no crowds and some events cancelled.
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WADA does not appeal CAS decision regarding Russian Anti-Doping Agency to Swiss Federal Tribunal
Following the passing of the deadline to appeal the December 2020 decision of the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) in the case between the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) and the Russian Anti-Doping Agency (RUSADA), which ruled in favor of WADA and declared RUSADA non-compliant with the World Anti-Doping Code, WADA confirms that it did not appeal the CAS decision to the Swiss Federal Tribunal. WADA was disappointed that the CAS Panel, based on its own assessment of proportionality, decided not to impose all the consequences that WADA sought (and not for the full four-year period). However, the grounds of appeal to the Swiss Federal Tribunal are limited to procedural matters such as jurisdiction, the composition of the Panel and the right to be heard. The Swiss Federal Tribunal does not conduct a review of the merits and would therefore not interfere with the Panel's assessment of the proportionality of the consequences. As a result, and following unanimous advice from in-house and external legal counsels, WADA strongly believes an appeal would have served no useful purpose and decided to refrain from doing so.By the way, with the remaining two-year ban, Russia cannot compete as a nation at the Olympics in Tokyo and Winter Games in Beijing 2022, although its athletes can compete as neutrals.
However, if the 2021 and 2022 Games are postponed, they'll escape any sanction, it seems. Maybe they should have imposed a ban for the "next two Olympic Games" instead (if legally possible)?
