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Hurricanes 2021

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  • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

    question, was Fletcher Smith ever given more then two or three games in a row, might be wrong but it felt like the canes were always chopping and changing at 10

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    @Kiwiwomble he was actually starting to come right during normal super rugby yet seem to lose his position to JGB

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      @Kiwiwomble he was actually starting to come right during normal super rugby yet seem to lose his position to JGB

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      @mikey07 said in 2021 Hurricanes:

      @Kiwiwomble he was actually starting to come right during normal super rugby yet seem to lose his position to JGB

      He lost his starting position after being poor in his first few starts. And never did enough to reclaim it

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        Always though Smith could be good if they gave him enough opportunities, offered a lot more on attack than JGB. JGB a little more steady I suppose.
        Really don't know a lot about the 9's and 10's that have been signed.

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        • WingerW Winger

          @mikey07 said in 2021 Hurricanes:

          @Kiwiwomble he was actually starting to come right during normal super rugby yet seem to lose his position to JGB

          He lost his starting position after being poor in his first few starts. And never did enough to reclaim it

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          @Winger Yeah but only got 1 spot on the bench as Holland insisted on not having 10 cover on the bench

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            ok, yeah, that's the impression I got, had some real talent but probably needed the luxury of a few starts in a row to settle in, not a luxury easily found in SRA

            I feel for him, hope he gets a good gig somewhere

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              @Kiwiwomble he was actually starting to come right during normal super rugby yet seem to lose his position to JGB

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              @mikey07 His captain and senior players were instrumental in having him ousted...

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                https://www.rugbypass.com/news/former-munster-flyhalf-bleyendaal-joins-the-hurricanes

                Tyler Bleyendaal has joined the coaching staff.

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                • YeetyaahY Yeetyaah

                  https://www.rugbypass.com/news/former-munster-flyhalf-bleyendaal-joins-the-hurricanes

                  Tyler Bleyendaal has joined the coaching staff.

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                  @Yeetyaah said in 2021 Hurricanes:

                  https://www.rugbypass.com/news/former-munster-flyhalf-bleyendaal-joins-the-hurricanes

                  Tyler Bleyendaal has joined the coaching staff.

                  So is that a straight swap for Carlos?

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                  • YeetyaahY Yeetyaah

                    https://www.rugbypass.com/news/former-munster-flyhalf-bleyendaal-joins-the-hurricanes

                    Tyler Bleyendaal has joined the coaching staff.

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                    @Yeetyaah For some reason, I can't see what you've posted, but I assume it's about this?

                    https://twitter.com/Hurricanesrugby/status/1338216531172343809

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                      @Yeetyaah For some reason, I can't see what you've posted, but I assume it's about this?

                      https://twitter.com/Hurricanesrugby/status/1338216531172343809

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                      Yeetyaah
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                      @Stargazer sure is.

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                        What coaching experience does he have?

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                        • NepiaN Nepia

                          What coaching experience does he have?

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                          @Nepia Not much, unless he has already coached while still playing. If this article is correct, he's been a backs coach at Garryowen since March 2020, after being forced to retire from playing.

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                          • Stockcar86S Stockcar86

                            @Yeetyaah said in 2021 Hurricanes:

                            https://www.rugbypass.com/news/former-munster-flyhalf-bleyendaal-joins-the-hurricanes

                            Tyler Bleyendaal has joined the coaching staff.

                            So is that a straight swap for Carlos?

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                            Winger
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                            @Stockcar86 said in 2021 Hurricanes:

                            @Yeetyaah said in 2021 Hurricanes:

                            https://www.rugbypass.com/news/former-munster-flyhalf-bleyendaal-joins-the-hurricanes

                            Tyler Bleyendaal has joined the coaching staff.

                            So is that a straight swap for Carlos?

                            I thought it was due to cutting costs when they laid Carlos off.

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                            • NepiaN Nepia

                              What coaching experience does he have?

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                              @Nepia said in 2021 Hurricanes:

                              What coaching experience does he have?

                              Cory also had very little experience. But at least eh was involved with the Canes and Wellington. This appointment seems an odd one

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                                @Stockcar86 said in 2021 Hurricanes:

                                @Yeetyaah said in 2021 Hurricanes:

                                https://www.rugbypass.com/news/former-munster-flyhalf-bleyendaal-joins-the-hurricanes

                                Tyler Bleyendaal has joined the coaching staff.

                                So is that a straight swap for Carlos?

                                I thought it was due to cutting costs when they laid Carlos off.

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                                @Winger said in 2021 Hurricanes:

                                @Stockcar86 said in 2021 Hurricanes:

                                @Yeetyaah said in 2021 Hurricanes:

                                https://www.rugbypass.com/news/former-munster-flyhalf-bleyendaal-joins-the-hurricanes

                                Tyler Bleyendaal has joined the coaching staff.

                                So is that a straight swap for Carlos?

                                I thought it was due to cutting costs when they laid Carlos off.

                                Tyler was obviously very cheap, is not like he has a huge CV to up his coaching value!

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                                • NepiaN Nepia

                                  What coaching experience does he have?

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                                  @Nepia @stargazer At least he has not become yet another ex Canterbrian that has been foistered onto us at the Magpies so that, at least, is something to be thankful for. The restless nights from the Philpott era (error?) still cause me difficulty.

                                  Be interesting to see if he can accomplish anything better than the Hammatuer?

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                                    Stargazer
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                                    Spencer's job included backs, defence and skills. IIRC, Cory Jane is the defence coach? The Hurricanes' media release doesn't say what Bleyendaal's job will be. I assume he'll be the backs coach?

                                    I'm glad the Canes signed someone from outside Wellington .... Maybe he's the one who can be convinced that the Canes need someone like McClutchie instead of another unproven Wellington kid! :face_with_monocle:

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                                      No game in Napier, this year. (Also not in the Poo).
                                      They probably would have had a better chance of a reasonably filled stadium for the Rebels game, if they'd given it to McLean Park. Now, we'll just see empty seats in Sky Stadium.

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                                      • StargazerS Stargazer

                                        No game in Napier, this year. (Also not in the Poo).
                                        They probably would have had a better chance of a reasonably filled stadium for the Rebels game, if they'd given it to McLean Park. Now, we'll just see empty seats in Sky Stadium.

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                                        Higgins
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                                        @Stargazer They are not showing much confidence by not naming Sky Stadium as the venue for the home final! Maybe they are just being realistic?

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                                        • StargazerS Stargazer

                                          Spencer's job included backs, defence and skills. IIRC, Cory Jane is the defence coach? The Hurricanes' media release doesn't say what Bleyendaal's job will be. I assume he'll be the backs coach?

                                          I'm glad the Canes signed someone from outside Wellington .... Maybe he's the one who can be convinced that the Canes need someone like McClutchie instead of another unproven Wellington kid! :face_with_monocle:

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                                          Canes4life
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                                          @Stargazer I'd rather Garden-Bachop at 10 than McLutchie, he was solid for the Canes this year and deserves the first opportunity. McLutchie is good on attack but he's been nothing but a turnstile on defence at Mitre 10 level, which I'm assuming is why he doesn't have a contract with anyone.

                                          I'm hoping that out of all the options Ruben Love is the guy that gets the most development in the next year. I feel like he will be the Canes main playmaker in the future. Looks to be the best equipped.

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