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Americas Cup

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    Machpants
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    Yeah TNZ boat the best, shame about the crew in pre start. If they can nail that, they'll be nigh unstoppable - huge tech leaps aside

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    • nzzpN nzzp

      TNZ owned in the prestart - they keep falling off their foils. Could be a big issue for them

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      #441

      @nzzp said in Americas Cup:

      TNZ owned in the prestart - they keep falling off their foils. Could be a big issue for them

      As I understand it, each team is allowed 3 sets of foils so they most likely have a light, mid, heavy air set to fit into the 6 to 21 knot range. I'm guessing about that and haven't found any info.

      ETNZ may be going for a smaller / heavier air set than are ideal for the conditions to get reduced drag and better overall boat speed. The drawback would be less lift making slower speed start manoeuvres more difficult and falling off the foils more likely, as well as getting back up on them requiring more time, pointing lower, etc.

      That is all supposition on my part but from memory the cats had different foils for different wind speeds.

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        @nzzp said in Americas Cup:

        TNZ owned in the prestart - they keep falling off their foils. Could be a big issue for them

        As I understand it, each team is allowed 3 sets of foils so they most likely have a light, mid, heavy air set to fit into the 6 to 21 knot range. I'm guessing about that and haven't found any info.

        ETNZ may be going for a smaller / heavier air set than are ideal for the conditions to get reduced drag and better overall boat speed. The drawback would be less lift making slower speed start manoeuvres more difficult and falling off the foils more likely, as well as getting back up on them requiring more time, pointing lower, etc.

        That is all supposition on my part but from memory the cats had different foils for different wind speeds.

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        #442

        @Snowy sounds right, and looks consistent with what we saw. TNZ is slightly faster I think (at this stage)

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          #443

          Is Ainslie just a bit shit?

          When these boats are going flat out, thier top speeds look comparable, yet Ainslie seems to be making alot of errors

          Team UK seem to have a different main-sail mechanism track too, looks a bit more clunky than the others?

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            TNZ looks to have better speed but Barker seems to be schooling Burling

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              #445

              BOat speed gets TNZ ahead, then Barker bombs a tac, all but game over

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                Yup lost another start, but some good work putBarker under pressure, and the yanks couldn't handle it. Smashed em, bro

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                  Jeez UK are stuffed. Managed to get themselves a penalty by entering the start box a few seconds early. So they have to give USA a 50m gap after the start, they start neck and neck - race director reminds them that they have a penalty Ainslee ' don;t worry about that, it'll be washed off soon' Basically conceeding. Then they fall off the foils on the first turn

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                    Jeez UK are stuffed. Managed to get themselves a penalty by entering the start box a few seconds early. So they have to give USA a 50m gap after the start, they start neck and neck - race director reminds them that they have a penalty Ainslee ' don;t worry about that, it'll be washed off soon' Basically conceeding. Then they fall off the foils on the first turn

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                    #448

                    @Machpants Ainslie is struggling to get things going. When he's going, his speed matches, but everything else is shite

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                        #450

                        Burling with his arse kicked on the start again

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                          Surely New Zealand can do better than Burling?

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                            and thats them done

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                              That looks like stunning incompetence at the first turn. Gets rid of the pretence that they're "trying things".

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                                oh wow, and now SPittle with a head scratcher

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                                  antipodean
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                                  Imagine a sail boat where you feel dead in the water at nine knots!

                                  The great aspect of this class is how quickly things can change based on wind. Everything is mutliplied.

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                                    TNZ superior boat speed is the difference really, all these teams making errors in the lighter winds

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                                      Even the wife enjoyed that race

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                                        Even the wife enjoyed that race

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                                        @Kiwiwomble was a pretty crazy race that one.

                                        Right now, TNZ boat looks the fastest, saving them. But Barker then Spittle the best sailors, Ainslie well back from BUrling though.

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                                        • antipodeanA antipodean

                                          Surely New Zealand can do better than Burling?

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                                          @antipodean

                                          The guy that won the last America’s Cup you mean?

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