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    #445

    BOat speed gets TNZ ahead, then Barker bombs a tac, all but game over

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      Yup lost another start, but some good work putBarker under pressure, and the yanks couldn't handle it. Smashed em, bro

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        Jeez UK are stuffed. Managed to get themselves a penalty by entering the start box a few seconds early. So they have to give USA a 50m gap after the start, they start neck and neck - race director reminds them that they have a penalty Ainslee ' don;t worry about that, it'll be washed off soon' Basically conceeding. Then they fall off the foils on the first turn

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          Jeez UK are stuffed. Managed to get themselves a penalty by entering the start box a few seconds early. So they have to give USA a 50m gap after the start, they start neck and neck - race director reminds them that they have a penalty Ainslee ' don;t worry about that, it'll be washed off soon' Basically conceeding. Then they fall off the foils on the first turn

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          @Machpants Ainslie is struggling to get things going. When he's going, his speed matches, but everything else is shite

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            • taniwharugbyT Offline
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              Burling with his arse kicked on the start again

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                Surely New Zealand can do better than Burling?

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                  and thats them done

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                    That looks like stunning incompetence at the first turn. Gets rid of the pretence that they're "trying things".

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                      oh wow, and now SPittle with a head scratcher

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                        #455

                        Imagine a sail boat where you feel dead in the water at nine knots!

                        The great aspect of this class is how quickly things can change based on wind. Everything is mutliplied.

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                          TNZ superior boat speed is the difference really, all these teams making errors in the lighter winds

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                            Even the wife enjoyed that race

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                              Even the wife enjoyed that race

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                              @Kiwiwomble was a pretty crazy race that one.

                              Right now, TNZ boat looks the fastest, saving them. But Barker then Spittle the best sailors, Ainslie well back from BUrling though.

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                              • antipodeanA antipodean

                                Surely New Zealand can do better than Burling?

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                                @antipodean

                                The guy that won the last America’s Cup you mean?

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                                  I speculated above as to why we might be a bit better in overall boat speed but struggling at the starts. Wind speed and foil selection. We're gambling a bit, testing, foils and setup combos (so is everyone else of course). Conditions are likely to be similar right through summer (average 10.8 to 11.3kts). That is not to say there won't be large deviations from that, but I think that is what we are trying to perfect, and it has been lighter than that this week.

                                  As for the sailors / skippers - one of the comms (probably Lester) made an interesting comment about the relative backgrounds of Barker and Burling. Barker is a match racer. Burling mostly fleet races (Olympic silver, gold and 6 time world champion). Big difference in attitude. Barker needs to win the start, get in front and cover. Burling backs himself to pick the shifts, pressure, tide, current and get boat speed around the course. So reactive v proactive.

                                  In the cats Burling's approach was successful because they were really match races in name only, it was a drag race and boat speed (and VMG) was king. In San Fran we know what happened to Barker, once Oracle had a competitive boat he needed to pick a shift, get separation, pressure, tide and just get one win.

                                  With AC 75s both come in to play which is making it even more interesting I reckon.

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                                    Just watched a highlights package this morning.

                                    Quite spectacular.

                                    Mrs Boo commented the boats look like the Captain Shakespeare's airship from Stardust.

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                                      Embarrassing for UK. Forced into a turn to go over the start line, of fthe foils, penalty going out of field, still not on the foils

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                                        Then NZ fucked it it on their final turn into last leg, both boats off foils, sailing at 6 8 knots. NZ is final leg, UK not into second tho

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                                          Then NZ fucked it it on their final turn into last leg, both boats off foils, sailing at 6 8 knots. NZ is final leg, UK not into second tho

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                                          #464

                                          @Machpants this is pretty funny, just a regular Sunday sail!

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