Black Caps v Pakistan
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@canefan said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
@MN5 said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
Nice run out Santner. I guess when you’re a part rounder you really need to take all opportunities that come your way.
Earned his dinner, for tonight anyway
Yeah it’s not quite a Botham ashes 1981 effort so far is it ?
@MN5 said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
@canefan said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
@MN5 said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
Nice run out Santner. I guess when you’re a part rounder you really need to take all opportunities that come your way.
Earned his dinner, for tonight anyway
Yeah it’s not quite a Botham ashes 1981 effort so far is it ?
He's got to do something to try to justify getting in Patel's way. Boult skittles Shah and now the follow on is suddenly looking tougher
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@MN5 said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
@canefan said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
@MN5 said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
Nice run out Santner. I guess when you’re a part rounder you really need to take all opportunities that come your way.
Earned his dinner, for tonight anyway
Yeah it’s not quite a Botham ashes 1981 effort so far is it ?
He's got to do something to try to justify getting in Patel's way. Boult skittles Shah and now the follow on is suddenly looking tougher
@canefan said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
@MN5 said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
@canefan said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
@MN5 said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
Nice run out Santner. I guess when you’re a part rounder you really need to take all opportunities that come your way.
Earned his dinner, for tonight anyway
Yeah it’s not quite a Botham ashes 1981 effort so far is it ?
He's got to do something to try to justify getting in Patel's way. Boult skittles Shah and now the follow on is suddenly looking tougher
Well yeah but I see the argument for them selecting him even if I disagree with it completely. If he goes then Patel bats 10 or 11, Jamieson goes to 7 and all of a sudden the tail looks really long. Santner does have a test ton which the selectors will use to fall back on. The best he can manage in this innings is two wickets ( tailenders at that )......can he actually make any impact in the 2nd innings ? ( which will hopefully be very soon )
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Live stats are a funny old thing.......
It's common fern wisdom that Boult pretty much walks into an all time test team with a very good record of 274 wickets at 28.02........But Southee has 298 wickets at 28.63 and is pretty much never mentioned..........over their careers that's a difference of precisely fuck all.......I wonder why Boult is so much more revered and admired than Timmy ?
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@KiwiMurph said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
Dick move from Jamieson. No need to throw it at the batsman.
This. Very disappointing.
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@KiwiMurph said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
Dick move from Jamieson. No need to throw it at the batsman.
This. Very disappointing.
@booboo said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
@KiwiMurph said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
Dick move from Jamieson. No need to throw it at the batsman.
This. Very disappointing.
Didn't see it but is it really ? we've been the nice guys of cricket for years and years. Isn't a bit of mongrel good in some cases ?
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@booboo said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
@KiwiMurph said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
Dick move from Jamieson. No need to throw it at the batsman.
This. Very disappointing.
Didn't see it but is it really ? we've been the nice guys of cricket for years and years. Isn't a bit of mongrel good in some cases ?
@MN5 said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
@booboo said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
@KiwiMurph said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
Dick move from Jamieson. No need to throw it at the batsman.
This. Very disappointing.
Didn't see it but is it really ? we've been the nice guys of cricket for years and years. Isn't a bit of mongrel good in some cases ?
Was OTT IMO.
He threw it at the batsman. Couldn't pretend it was anywhere near the stumps.
And no.
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@MN5 said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
@booboo said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
@KiwiMurph said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
Dick move from Jamieson. No need to throw it at the batsman.
This. Very disappointing.
Didn't see it but is it really ? we've been the nice guys of cricket for years and years. Isn't a bit of mongrel good in some cases ?
Was OTT IMO.
He threw it at the batsman. Couldn't pretend it was anywhere near the stumps.
And no.
@booboo said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
@MN5 said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
@booboo said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
@KiwiMurph said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
Dick move from Jamieson. No need to throw it at the batsman.
This. Very disappointing.
Didn't see it but is it really ? we've been the nice guys of cricket for years and years. Isn't a bit of mongrel good in some cases ?
Was OTT IMO.
He threw it at the batsman. Couldn't pretend it was anywhere near the stumps.
And no.
Again, didn't see it but if it is like you describe then that is pretty shit. Hopefully youthful hotheadedness that will subside as he gets older because fuck me days he's a talent and then some.
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Pakistan all out for 239 and that's stumps. Faheem unfortunately falls for 91, but they avoid the follow on.
@Godder said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
Pakistan all out for 239 and that's stumps. Faheem unfortunately falls for 91, but they avoid the follow on.
That's niggly but at the very least the BCs don't have a couple of annoying overs tonight.
Tom squared will want to atone for the first innings ( says MN5 wisely stating the fucken obvious )
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Live stats are a funny old thing.......
It's common fern wisdom that Boult pretty much walks into an all time test team with a very good record of 274 wickets at 28.02........But Southee has 298 wickets at 28.63 and is pretty much never mentioned..........over their careers that's a difference of precisely fuck all.......I wonder why Boult is so much more revered and admired than Timmy ?
@MN5 said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
Live stats are a funny old thing.......
It's common fern wisdom that Boult pretty much walks into an all time test team with a very good record of 274 wickets at 28.02........But Southee has 298 wickets at 28.63 and is pretty much never mentioned..........over their careers that's a difference of precisely fuck all.......I wonder why Boult is so much more revered and admired than Timmy ?
Boult's ODI record is superb. Different game but it plays into people's perceptions.
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Live stats are a funny old thing.......
It's common fern wisdom that Boult pretty much walks into an all time test team with a very good record of 274 wickets at 28.02........But Southee has 298 wickets at 28.63 and is pretty much never mentioned..........over their careers that's a difference of precisely fuck all.......I wonder why Boult is so much more revered and admired than Timmy ?
@MN5 said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
Live stats are a funny old thing.......
It's common fern wisdom that Boult pretty much walks into an all time test team with a very good record of 274 wickets at 28.02........But Southee has 298 wickets at 28.63 and is pretty much never mentioned..........over their careers that's a difference of precisely fuck all.......I wonder why Boult is so much more revered and admired than Timmy ?
If it was a straight pick between the two and we are playing at home, I’d pick Southee.
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@MN5 they've picked Sanga as the keeper when I'm fairly certain he didn't keep at all during the decade. That's not fair on other keepers as it's damn hard keeping and batting in a test.
Also Anderson and Broad? They don't exactly strike fear into the opposition unless they are at home and the ball is hooping around.
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Speaking of milestones, Southee takes 2 in an over to leave Pakistan at 60/5, and he moves to 298 test wickets - 2 to go to be our 4th bowler to reach 300.
Edit: as pointed out, 3rd.
@Godder said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
Speaking of milestones, Southee takes 2 in an over to leave Pakistan at 60/5, and he moves to 298 test wickets - 2 to go to be our 4th bowler to reach 300.
4th? Hadlee and Vettori both passed 300 wickets. Is there another player who I can't remember?
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@Godder said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
Speaking of milestones, Southee takes 2 in an over to leave Pakistan at 60/5, and he moves to 298 test wickets - 2 to go to be our 4th bowler to reach 300.
4th? Hadlee and Vettori both passed 300 wickets. Is there another player who I can't remember?
@Cantab79 said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
@Godder said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
Speaking of milestones, Southee takes 2 in an over to leave Pakistan at 60/5, and he moves to 298 test wickets - 2 to go to be our 4th bowler to reach 300.
4th? Hadlee and Vettori both passed 300 wickets. Is there another player who I can't remember?
Nope
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@MN5 they've picked Sanga as the keeper when I'm fairly certain he didn't keep at all during the decade. That's not fair on other keepers as it's damn hard keeping and batting in a test.
Also Anderson and Broad? They don't exactly strike fear into the opposition unless they are at home and the ball is hooping around.
@No-Quarter said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
@MN5 they've picked Sanga as the keeper when I'm fairly certain he didn't keep at all during the decade. That's not fair on other keepers as it's damn hard keeping and batting in a test.
Also Anderson and Broad? They don't exactly strike fear into the opposition unless they are at home and the ball is hooping around.
Yeah not sure they get in to be fair.
As good as our team has become we can’t really gripe with KW being the only one to walk in.
Kallis shits all over Stokes but only played three years so that counts him out.
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@MN5 they've picked Sanga as the keeper when I'm fairly certain he didn't keep at all during the decade. That's not fair on other keepers as it's damn hard keeping and batting in a test.
Also Anderson and Broad? They don't exactly strike fear into the opposition unless they are at home and the ball is hooping around.
@No-Quarter said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
@MN5 they've picked Sanga as the keeper when I'm fairly certain he didn't keep at all during the decade. That's not fair on other keepers as it's damn hard keeping and batting in a test.
Also Anderson and Broad? They don't exactly strike fear into the opposition unless they are at home and the ball is hooping around.
Kept in one test apparently. About as much of a joke as the English guys in that team.
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Seems as good a spot as any to post this. I wouldn’t have Stokes, Boult, Starc or Hazelwood possibly sneak in or maybe AB De Villiers depending on the team balance ?....rest seems ok though
@MN5 said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
Seems as good a spot as any to post this. I wouldn’t have Stokes, Boult, Starc or Hazelwood possibly sneak in or maybe AB De Villiers depending on the team balance ?....rest seems ok though
Genuine question ... does anybody remember the English bowling attack being the best of the decade?
It may well be a fair reflection of the decade results, I honestly don't know.
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@MN5 said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
Seems as good a spot as any to post this. I wouldn’t have Stokes, Boult, Starc or Hazelwood possibly sneak in or maybe AB De Villiers depending on the team balance ?....rest seems ok though
Genuine question ... does anybody remember the English bowling attack being the best of the decade?
It may well be a fair reflection of the decade results, I honestly don't know.
@MajorRage said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
@MN5 said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
Seems as good a spot as any to post this. I wouldn’t have Stokes, Boult, Starc or Hazelwood possibly sneak in or maybe AB De Villiers depending on the team balance ?....rest seems ok though
Genuine question ... does anybody remember the English bowling attack being the best of the decade?
It may well be a fair reflection of the decade results, I honestly don't know.
Starc-Hazlewood-Steyn would put the shits up most batting lineups.
Anderson has a pretty handy record overall but isn't really a stand out. No way in hell Broad should be there.
If we're going by stats then I don't seen how Vernon Philander misses out - 22 average with a 50 strike rate which is significantly better than all of the other contenders.
Really it should be Steyn - Philander - Starc/Hazlewood.
Steyn is miles ahead of everyone with a 22 average and 42 strike rate. He was some player.
