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  • DamoD Offline
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    Jamieson just keeps taking wickets.

    You'd think his bowling average below 15 is unsustainable, but no signs of that yet.

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    Fleming is a bloody good commentator.

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    @Damo said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

    Jamieson just keeps taking wickets.

    You'd think his bowling average below 15 is unsustainable, but no signs of that yet.

    I remember Vernon Philander started in a similar way but then it ‘ballooned’ to a Hadlee like 22 or so.

    Fuck I love this Black Caps team even if we always seem to have to carry a passenger at seven and Toms opening partner is far from settled.

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    Jamieson just STOP will you ? My dick can only get so hard you know....

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    What a ripper of a ball there. That wasn't even all that short.

    Height is underrated.

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    @Damo said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

    What a ripper of a ball there. That wasn't even all that short.

    Height is underrated.

    Can't teach tall

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    @booboo said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

    @Damo said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

    What a ripper of a ball there. That wasn't even all that short.

    Height is underrated.

    Can't teach tall

    Reminds me of Joel Garner.

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    @Godder Wonder how Ardie would go as an opening bowler given he is at least as tall as Big Bird Garner?

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    Crazy thing is these figures are the worst they could be. Jamieson wasnt the luckiest in that spell. Legend in the making

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    Jeepers Matt Henry has some appalling test stats. What a step down to what we’re used to of late.

    Was Doug Bracewell not fit ?

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    Henry will make Santner look economical, and take about as many wickets.

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    @Bovidae said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

    Henry will make Santner look economical, and take about as many wickets.

    Ok so two then ? I’m happy with that. The others can sort the rest

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    @MN5 the problem is the others don't include Wagner.

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    @Bovidae said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

    Henry will make Santner look economical, and take about as many wickets.

    This only works if Santner is actually uneconomical .

    But anyway. We are down to our 7th best seamer and 3rd best spinner. Our 7th best seamer has a way worse record than our 3rd best spinner, which is interesting.

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    @Rapido said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

    @Bovidae said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

    Henry will make Santner look economical, and take about as many wickets.

    This only works if Santner is actually uneconomical .

    Santner went for 2.67 runs per over in the Pakistan 2nd innings. Henry is currently leaking 5 runs per over.

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    Personally think the Henry selection was not a good one.

    Was a big fan first few years of his career, but just hasn't cut it at test level, c'EST la vie. Going wicketless at home to Bangladesh shoukd have finished his test career.

    I know where down to 7th choice, but I would have gone tall. Tickner or Duffy to debut, attempt to get some bounce.

    This isnt green enough to get a 4 day result, which is what we need if we want to keep destiny in our own hands.

    Bay Oval cut it too fine. This is just a bit naive.

    Thought. Bay Oval was in theory almost a perfect test wicket. Does the WTC incentivise 'poorer' home pitches.

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    @Bovidae said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

    @Rapido said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

    @Bovidae said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

    Henry will make Santner look economical, and take about as many wickets.

    This only works if Santner is actually uneconomical .

    Santner went for 2.67 runs per over in the Pakistan 2nd innings. Henry is currently leaking 5 runs per over.

    No shit.
    Santner is economical. That's his role at home. Doesn't need Henry leaking to make him look economical in comparison. He is.

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    Henry's SR is slightly better than Santner's (92 vs 95), so in that respect he gets wickets faster. A few extra runs hopefully won't matter, although I must say Santner offers more in the rest of his game compared to taking wickets 3 balls faster.

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    @Rapido There was criticism of Mitch on here that he wasn't even keeping one end tight in that 2nd innings. I say this as a fan of his, but more in white ball cricket.

    As to Henry, plenty of us questioned his selection when he was only going to be the 2nd change bowler. It would be interesting to see if his test figures as an opening bowler are that much better.

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    @Godder said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

    Henry's SR is slightly better than Santner's (92 vs 95), so in that respect he gets wickets faster. A few extra runs hopefully won't matter, although I must say Santner offers more in the rest of his game compared to taking wickets 3 balls faster.

    Santner usually bowls at bad times. (At home). 2 set batsmen in a partnership, throw it to the spinner while seamers are rested or until 2nd ball is due.

    Henry gets new ball, sometimes first change. His real record is very poor.

    Santner's record a smidge better than it looks on paper .

    Santner IMO is about 30-40% better performer than Henry over similar lengthed career. If I'm generous. Santner performs his role, I dont recall Henry ever performing his role properly, maybe gap is bigger.

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