Black Caps v Pakistan
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Crazy thing is these figures are the worst they could be. Jamieson wasnt the luckiest in that spell. Legend in the making
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@Bovidae said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
Henry will make Santner look economical, and take about as many wickets.
This only works if Santner is actually uneconomical .
But anyway. We are down to our 7th best seamer and 3rd best spinner. Our 7th best seamer has a way worse record than our 3rd best spinner, which is interesting.
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@Rapido said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
@Bovidae said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
Henry will make Santner look economical, and take about as many wickets.
This only works if Santner is actually uneconomical .
Santner went for 2.67 runs per over in the Pakistan 2nd innings. Henry is currently leaking 5 runs per over.
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Personally think the Henry selection was not a good one.
Was a big fan first few years of his career, but just hasn't cut it at test level, c'EST la vie. Going wicketless at home to Bangladesh shoukd have finished his test career.
I know where down to 7th choice, but I would have gone tall. Tickner or Duffy to debut, attempt to get some bounce.
This isnt green enough to get a 4 day result, which is what we need if we want to keep destiny in our own hands.
Bay Oval cut it too fine. This is just a bit naive.
Thought. Bay Oval was in theory almost a perfect test wicket. Does the WTC incentivise 'poorer' home pitches.
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@Bovidae said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
@Rapido said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
@Bovidae said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
Henry will make Santner look economical, and take about as many wickets.
This only works if Santner is actually uneconomical .
Santner went for 2.67 runs per over in the Pakistan 2nd innings. Henry is currently leaking 5 runs per over.
No shit.
Santner is economical. That's his role at home. Doesn't need Henry leaking to make him look economical in comparison. He is. -
Henry's SR is slightly better than Santner's (92 vs 95), so in that respect he gets wickets faster. A few extra runs hopefully won't matter, although I must say Santner offers more in the rest of his game compared to taking wickets 3 balls faster.
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@Rapido There was criticism of Mitch on here that he wasn't even keeping one end tight in that 2nd innings. I say this as a fan of his, but more in white ball cricket.
As to Henry, plenty of us questioned his selection when he was only going to be the 2nd change bowler. It would be interesting to see if his test figures as an opening bowler are that much better.
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@Godder said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
Henry's SR is slightly better than Santner's (92 vs 95), so in that respect he gets wickets faster. A few extra runs hopefully won't matter, although I must say Santner offers more in the rest of his game compared to taking wickets 3 balls faster.
Santner usually bowls at bad times. (At home). 2 set batsmen in a partnership, throw it to the spinner while seamers are rested or until 2nd ball is due.
Henry gets new ball, sometimes first change. His real record is very poor.
Santner's record a smidge better than it looks on paper .
Santner IMO is about 30-40% better performer than Henry over similar lengthed career. If I'm generous. Santner performs his role, I dont recall Henry ever performing his role properly, maybe gap is bigger.
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@Bovidae said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
@Rapido There was criticism of Mitch on here that he wasn't even keeping one end tight in that 2nd innings. I say this as a fan of his, but more in white ball cricket.
As to Henry, plenty of us questioned his selection when he was only going to be the 2nd change bowler. It would be interesting to see if his test figures as an opening bowler are that much better.
Ok. 2 fans of him arguing with each other then ...
Those bastard haterz have made me paranoid.
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@Bovidae said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
@Rapido There was criticism of Mitch on here that he wasn't even keeping one end tight in that 2nd innings. I say this as a fan of his, but more in white ball cricket.
As to Henry, plenty of us questioned his selection when he was only going to be the 2nd change bowler. It would be interesting to see if his test figures as an opening bowler are that much better.
A bit, his worst position is 4th (second change) and his best is 1st position. Columns below are Average, Economy Rate, Strike Rate.
1st position: 37.28 3.30 67.7
2nd position: 43.90 2.66 98.7
3rd position: 57.00 3.89 87.7
4th position: 116.50 3.69 189.0 -
@KiwiMurph said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
So the decision to bowl first....
...is really high risk. When you bowl first you need to knock them over for 200 or less or you are behind the game having to bat last. I'm not a fan but can see how teams get sucked into bowling given how green the pitches look.
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That was an absolute sitter. Not good enough from a senior player.
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@No-Quarter said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
That was an absolute sitter. Not good enough from a senior player.
Dreadful effort from someone occupying that position in the slips. Barely a warm up ball in catching practice.
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