European Club Rugby
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@Hooroo He's one team's trainer, not the match's official ball boy. He absolutely is not allowed to interfere with play in anyway, including trying to prevent a player from getting the ball.
If you don't see a problem with a non-player interfering to "help your team", then I honestly question whether you understand the concept of cheating, as you've given a definition of it.
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@Tim said in NH club rugby:
@Hooroo He's one team's trainer, not the match's official ball boy. He absolutely is not allowed to interfere with play in anyway, including trying to prevent a player from getting the ball.
If you don't see a problem with a non-player interfering to "help your team", then I honestly question whether you understand the concept of cheating, as you've given a definition of it.
OK, I just saw the outbreak on the smallest of vids. I couldn't see what he had done and had assumed he had just touched the ball rather than preventing anyone on getting it?
If the ball is rolling his way is he supposed to get out of his seat and out of the way of it se it doesn't hit his legs?
What actually happened?
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@Machpants said in NH club rugby:
@Hooroo he leaned over the hoardings, and touched it. Was not going too be hit buy it, just a dick move
Yeah, I don't have a problem with that. I would do it too. I wouldn't stop him from being able to grab the ball though.
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@Hooroo said in NH club rugby:
@Machpants said in NH club rugby:
@Hooroo he leaned over the hoardings, and touched it. Was not going too be hit buy it, just a dick move
Yeah, I don't have a problem with that. I would do it too. I wouldn't stop him from being able to grab the ball though.
Once he touched it that was the same as grabbing the ball, can't do a quick throw. Is just cheating, the need to go full soccer and put those fluffybunnies in an area until let out
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@Machpants said in NH club rugby:
@Hooroo said in NH club rugby:
@Machpants said in NH club rugby:
@Hooroo he leaned over the hoardings, and touched it. Was not going too be hit buy it, just a dick move
Yeah, I don't have a problem with that. I would do it too. I wouldn't stop him from being able to grab the ball though.
Once he touched it that was the same as grabbing the ball, can't do a quick throw. Is just cheating, the need to go full soccer and put those fluffybunnies in an area until let out
But is it cheating? That was my original question. What are the rules around this? If the ball is heading to the bench are the bench to evacuate the area?
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@Hooroo if he hadn't reached for it, the other guy might have got it first and been able uo do a quick throw in, either way, a player who ys not 1 of the 30 on the park has deliberately touched the ball to affect play.
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@taniwharugby said in NH club rugby:
@Hooroo if he hadn't reached for it, the other guy might have got it first and been able uo do a quick throw in, either way, a player who ys not 1 of the 30 on the park has deliberately touched the ball to affect play.
Yeah I get that, like a if a ball boy touches it, it can't be used for a quick throw.
I just don't have a problem with it if there is no rule around it.
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@Hooroo think ball boys are different as that's thier role, but yea unsure what the exact rules are.
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@taniwharugby said in NH club rugby:
@Hooroo think ball boys are different as that's thier role, but yea unsure what the exact rules are.
Not for quick throws they aren't. If they touch it, it can't be used for a quick throw.
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@Hooroo no i mean a ball boy is there to retrieve the ball, I am sure they are told about when they can and cannot touch it , a reserve water carrier, physio should have no business touching it.
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@taniwharugby said in NH club rugby:
@Hooroo no i mean a ball boy is there to retrieve the ball, I am sure they are told about when they can and cannot touch it , a reserve water carrier, physio should have no business touching it.
but cool for the oppo bench to if they wish?
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@Hooroo do they not count as reserves?
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@taniwharugby said in NH club rugby:
@Hooroo do they not count as reserves?
That's what I'm asking? Is there any rule around it?
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@Hooroo no idea, which was what I posted with the clip saying WR needs to do something
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@taniwharugby said in NH club rugby:
@Hooroo no idea, which was what I posted with the clip saying WR needs to do something
From some of the over-reaction on here, I first thought someone died or even cheated but I can't tell if that has happened
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There was a game a few years ago where there was two incidents in one match. A staff member did it first and got a warning.
An injured player did it the second time and got a red cardThe injured player part is interesting because he's not an active player
I had a skim through the rugbyrefs forum and it seems all the ref can do is remove the staff from the playing area for the cheating.
There was debate over if they could also penalise the team.In this weekends incident the staff member was removed from the playing area. However the penalty (and YC) went against the player for the reaction
