Americas Cup
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Given what beasts these boats are and the fact TNZ only launched this boat less than 4 weeks before racing, I would cut Burling and his crew some slack.
@dogmeat said in Americas Cup:
Given what beasts these boats are and the fact TNZ only launched this boat less than 4 weeks before racing, I would cut Burling and his crew some slack.
That sounds like some rebuilding wallabies, Wales, Scotland, etc lame arse talk, to me.
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@dogmeat said in Americas Cup:
Given what beasts these boats are and the fact TNZ only launched this boat less than 4 weeks before racing, I would cut Burling and his crew some slack.
That sounds like some rebuilding wallabies, Wales, Scotland, etc lame arse talk, to me.
@Machpants said in Americas Cup:
@dogmeat said in Americas Cup:
Given what beasts these boats are and the fact TNZ only launched this boat less than 4 weeks before racing, I would cut Burling and his crew some slack.
That sounds like some rebuilding wallabies, Wales, Scotland, etc lame arse talk, to me.
you realise we won, right, and had a faster boat, and only lost a race we stuffed up three times (and still nearly pulled it out).
Tough critics here...
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I think Burling still has a bit to learn on match racing, particularly the starts, if he can sort them, short of mechanical issues, then they should be nigh on unbeatable.
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I think Burling still has a bit to learn on match racing, particularly the starts, if he can sort them, short of mechanical issues, then they should be nigh on unbeatable.
@taniwharugby said in Americas Cup:
I think Burling still has a bit to learn on match racing, particularly the starts, if he can sort them, short of mechanical issues, then they should be nigh on unbeatable.
Wasn't he the winning helmsman in our last challenge? I think he'll be fine
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@DaGrubster said in Americas Cup:
The guy that won the last America’s Cup you mean?
On a clearly faster boat. Can we say the same this time? He's clearly a better sailor than me, but if this requires match racing are you as confident based on what we've seen thus far?
Yeah, he was expected to struggle in Bermuda with the starts and surprised everyone by owning them but as you say, they had the advantage in speed, manoeuvre’s.
It’s likely he will be up against Dean Barker in the Americas Cup and you would prefer Burling than Barker. Team NZ did after all.
American Magic looks a very good package and the starts seem crucial in a tight contest.
Team NZ don’t look anywhere near as polished compared to the last campaign.
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I think Burling still has a bit to learn on match racing, particularly the starts, if he can sort them, short of mechanical issues, then they should be nigh on unbeatable.
Agreed, win or have even starts and we will be very, very hard to beat.
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Yeah, he was expected to struggle in Bermuda with the starts and surprised everyone by owning them but as you say, they had the advantage in speed, manoeuvre’s.
It’s likely he will be up against Dean Barker in the Americas Cup and you would prefer Burling than Barker. Team NZ did after all.
American Magic looks a very good package and the starts seem crucial in a tight contest.
Team NZ don’t look anywhere near as polished compared to the last campaign.
@DaGrubster said in Americas Cup:
Team NZ don’t look anywhere near as polished compared to the last campaign.
Yet. 4 weeks into their campaign - they're watching and aiming at March, not December
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@DaGrubster said in Americas Cup:
Team NZ don’t look anywhere near as polished compared to the last campaign.
Yet. 4 weeks into their campaign - they're watching and aiming at March, not December
@nzzp said in Americas Cup:
@DaGrubster said in Americas Cup:
Team NZ don’t look anywhere near as polished compared to the last campaign.
Yet. 4 weeks into their campaign - they're watching and aiming at March, not December
Unfortunately so is everyone else
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@nzzp said in Americas Cup:
@DaGrubster said in Americas Cup:
Team NZ don’t look anywhere near as polished compared to the last campaign.
Yet. 4 weeks into their campaign - they're watching and aiming at March, not December
Unfortunately so is everyone else
@booboo said in Americas Cup:
@nzzp said in Americas Cup:
@DaGrubster said in Americas Cup:
Team NZ don’t look anywhere near as polished compared to the last campaign.
Yet. 4 weeks into their campaign - they're watching and aiming at March, not December
Unfortunately so is everyone else
Having a quick boat at the outset is encouraging. We improved the sailing / foiling skills massively in Bermuda and we had a quick boat there too.
I think that we can improve the boat, but definitely the skills. The guys managed to keep the cat on foils for a race or two last time. I see no reason that they won't get up to that level again. They haven't had long in these machines.
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Coutts comes across as such a piston wristed gibbon.
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Coutts comes across as such a piston wristed gibbon.
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in other news, has he given up already, we'll take his money but not sure we need him to help tune anything
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First capsizing of an AC75. Unfortuantely, it was ETNZ Te Rehutai.
Some good footage of this around the traps and this has two angles.
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in other news, has he given up already, we'll take his money but not sure we need him to help tune anything
@Kiwiwomble said in Americas Cup:
in other news, has he given up already, we'll take his money but not sure we need him to help tune anything
No substitute for live fire exercises
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First capsizing of an AC75. Unfortuantely, it was ETNZ Te Rehutai.
Some good footage of this around the traps and this has two angles.
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@dogmeat said in Americas Cup:
@RoninWC said in Americas Cup:
First capsizing of an AC75.
They capsized Te Aihe twice.
Right you are @dogmeat I had forgotten about that.
It's funny, Te Aihe to my eyes looks smaller than Te Rehutai so I didn't think it was quite AC75 but a quick Google check confirms it is.
Comparing the two visually, there is no difference length wise but the hull shape is significantly different with Te Rehutai being quite bulkier.
From the article below:
""The bow has more volume than Boat 1", Burling continues. "Every team has broken it down differently. The cockpits are designed more for aerodynamics than coping with water issues", he says.
Water coming over the bow has a clear flow down the spillway - the wide channel that lies between the two crew areas. It also serves as a landing zone, or end plate for the mainsail and jib - which now make contact with the hull, below gunnel level. In Te Aihe the foredeck was extended back through the cockpit, forming a centre console - which is now no more.
Asked how much Te Aihe has been cannibalised for parts to be fitted onto Boat 2, Bernasconi responds: "a lot of electronics came off Boat 1, and some of the hydraulics - but not a lot."
It becomes evident that ETNZ has no intention of sailing Te Aihe against Te Rehutai. "It would take a lot of work to put it back together", says Burling"
https://www.yachtsandyachting.com/news/233299/Americas-Cup-Rialto-Nov-20-Kiwis-first-sail
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Coutts comes across as such a piston wristed gibbon.
@Bovidae said in Americas Cup:
Coutts comes across as such a piston wristed gibbon.
So he is actually wanting to copyright "lines".
Might as well go the whole hogg and do arrows and circles as well.That man is a complete bellend, he was one of the original Americas cup intellectual property thieves to start with.
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@Bovidae said in Americas Cup:
Coutts comes across as such a piston wristed gibbon.
So he is actually wanting to copyright "lines".
Might as well go the whole hogg and do arrows and circles as well.That man is a complete bellend, he was one of the original Americas cup intellectual property thieves to start with.
@Snowy said in Americas Cup:
@Bovidae said in Americas Cup:
Coutts comes across as such a piston wristed gibbon.
So he is actually wanting to copyright "lines".
Might as well go the whole hogg and do arrows and circles as well.That man is a complete bellend, he was one of the original Americas cup intellectual property thieves to start with.
As the story goes Coutts has been a fluffybunny ever since his junior days
