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  • canefanC canefan

    @taniwharugby said in Americas Cup:

    haha, TNZ 100m from the finish, but over the 45min time limit, race abandoned and to be raced again later

    Sounds like it is just as well, we need more live fire practice!! Bloody funny having a 45 minute time limit, I recall the 12m races taking farken ages back in the day. Bloody exciting still

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    @canefan said in Americas Cup:

    @taniwharugby said in Americas Cup:

    haha, TNZ 100m from the finish, but over the 45min time limit, race abandoned and to be raced again later

    Sounds like it is just as well, we need more live fire practice!! Bloody funny having a 45 minute time limit, I recall the 12m races taking farken ages back in the day. Bloody exciting still

    Not just as well at all, that was TNZ's last chance for an actual race. Problem was wind started at 7kt, min is 6.5, and it dropped therefore no foiling

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      was it a 45 min limit too that stopped us in the pivotal race in San Fran all those years back that launched arguably the biggest choke ever?

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      • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

        was it a 45 min limit too that stopped us in the pivotal race in San Fran all those years back that launched arguably the biggest choke ever?

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        @taniwharugby said in Americas Cup:

        was it a 45 min limit too that stopped us in the pivotal race in San Fran all those years back that launched arguably the biggest choke ever?

        Yup. Finish line in sight. The rest was history

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        • D DaGrubster

          @antipodean

          The guy that won the last America’s Cup you mean?

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          @DaGrubster said in Americas Cup:

          @antipodean

          The guy that won the last America’s Cup you mean?

          On a clearly faster boat. Can we say the same this time? He's clearly a better sailor than me, but if this requires match racing are you as confident based on what we've seen thus far?

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          • antipodeanA antipodean

            @DaGrubster said in Americas Cup:

            @antipodean

            The guy that won the last America’s Cup you mean?

            On a clearly faster boat. Can we say the same this time? He's clearly a better sailor than me, but if this requires match racing are you as confident based on what we've seen thus far?

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            @antipodean said in Americas Cup:

            On a clearly faster boat.

            That old saying about the "fastest boat wins the Americas cup" is around for a reason.

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              Given what beasts these boats are and the fact TNZ only launched this boat less than 4 weeks before racing, I would cut Burling and his crew some slack.

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              • dogmeatD dogmeat

                Given what beasts these boats are and the fact TNZ only launched this boat less than 4 weeks before racing, I would cut Burling and his crew some slack.

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                @dogmeat said in Americas Cup:

                Given what beasts these boats are and the fact TNZ only launched this boat less than 4 weeks before racing, I would cut Burling and his crew some slack.

                No - we're results oriented here. Success immediately or nothing!

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                • antipodeanA antipodean

                  @dogmeat said in Americas Cup:

                  Given what beasts these boats are and the fact TNZ only launched this boat less than 4 weeks before racing, I would cut Burling and his crew some slack.

                  No - we're results oriented here. Success immediately or nothing!

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                  @antipodean said in Americas Cup:

                  @dogmeat said in Americas Cup:

                  Given what beasts these boats are and the fact TNZ only launched this boat less than 4 weeks before racing, I would cut Burling and his crew some slack.

                  No - we're results oriented here. Success immediately or nothing!

                  TSF, we're a tough crowd here!!

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                  • dogmeatD dogmeat

                    Given what beasts these boats are and the fact TNZ only launched this boat less than 4 weeks before racing, I would cut Burling and his crew some slack.

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                    @dogmeat said in Americas Cup:

                    Given what beasts these boats are and the fact TNZ only launched this boat less than 4 weeks before racing, I would cut Burling and his crew some slack.

                    That sounds like some rebuilding wallabies, Wales, Scotland, etc lame arse talk, to me.

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                      @dogmeat said in Americas Cup:

                      Given what beasts these boats are and the fact TNZ only launched this boat less than 4 weeks before racing, I would cut Burling and his crew some slack.

                      That sounds like some rebuilding wallabies, Wales, Scotland, etc lame arse talk, to me.

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                      @Machpants said in Americas Cup:

                      @dogmeat said in Americas Cup:

                      Given what beasts these boats are and the fact TNZ only launched this boat less than 4 weeks before racing, I would cut Burling and his crew some slack.

                      That sounds like some rebuilding wallabies, Wales, Scotland, etc lame arse talk, to me.

                      you realise we won, right, and had a faster boat, and only lost a race we stuffed up three times (and still nearly pulled it out).

                      Tough critics here...

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                        I think Burling still has a bit to learn on match racing, particularly the starts, if he can sort them, short of mechanical issues, then they should be nigh on unbeatable.

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                        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                          I think Burling still has a bit to learn on match racing, particularly the starts, if he can sort them, short of mechanical issues, then they should be nigh on unbeatable.

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                          @taniwharugby said in Americas Cup:

                          I think Burling still has a bit to learn on match racing, particularly the starts, if he can sort them, short of mechanical issues, then they should be nigh on unbeatable.

                          Wasn't he the winning helmsman in our last challenge? I think he'll be fine

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                          • antipodeanA antipodean

                            @DaGrubster said in Americas Cup:

                            @antipodean

                            The guy that won the last America’s Cup you mean?

                            On a clearly faster boat. Can we say the same this time? He's clearly a better sailor than me, but if this requires match racing are you as confident based on what we've seen thus far?

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                            @antipodean

                            Yeah, he was expected to struggle in Bermuda with the starts and surprised everyone by owning them but as you say, they had the advantage in speed, manoeuvre’s.

                            It’s likely he will be up against Dean Barker in the Americas Cup and you would prefer Burling than Barker. Team NZ did after all.

                            American Magic looks a very good package and the starts seem crucial in a tight contest.

                            Team NZ don’t look anywhere near as polished compared to the last campaign.

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                            • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                              I think Burling still has a bit to learn on match racing, particularly the starts, if he can sort them, short of mechanical issues, then they should be nigh on unbeatable.

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                              @taniwharugby

                              Agreed, win or have even starts and we will be very, very hard to beat.

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                                @antipodean

                                Yeah, he was expected to struggle in Bermuda with the starts and surprised everyone by owning them but as you say, they had the advantage in speed, manoeuvre’s.

                                It’s likely he will be up against Dean Barker in the Americas Cup and you would prefer Burling than Barker. Team NZ did after all.

                                American Magic looks a very good package and the starts seem crucial in a tight contest.

                                Team NZ don’t look anywhere near as polished compared to the last campaign.

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                                @DaGrubster said in Americas Cup:

                                Team NZ don’t look anywhere near as polished compared to the last campaign.

                                Yet. 4 weeks into their campaign - they're watching and aiming at March, not December

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                                • nzzpN nzzp

                                  @DaGrubster said in Americas Cup:

                                  Team NZ don’t look anywhere near as polished compared to the last campaign.

                                  Yet. 4 weeks into their campaign - they're watching and aiming at March, not December

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                                  @nzzp said in Americas Cup:

                                  @DaGrubster said in Americas Cup:

                                  Team NZ don’t look anywhere near as polished compared to the last campaign.

                                  Yet. 4 weeks into their campaign - they're watching and aiming at March, not December

                                  Unfortunately so is everyone else

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                                  • boobooB booboo

                                    @nzzp said in Americas Cup:

                                    @DaGrubster said in Americas Cup:

                                    Team NZ don’t look anywhere near as polished compared to the last campaign.

                                    Yet. 4 weeks into their campaign - they're watching and aiming at March, not December

                                    Unfortunately so is everyone else

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                                    @booboo said in Americas Cup:

                                    @nzzp said in Americas Cup:

                                    @DaGrubster said in Americas Cup:

                                    Team NZ don’t look anywhere near as polished compared to the last campaign.

                                    Yet. 4 weeks into their campaign - they're watching and aiming at March, not December

                                    Unfortunately so is everyone else

                                    Having a quick boat at the outset is encouraging. We improved the sailing / foiling skills massively in Bermuda and we had a quick boat there too.

                                    I think that we can improve the boat, but definitely the skills. The guys managed to keep the cat on foils for a race or two last time. I see no reason that they won't get up to that level again. They haven't had long in these machines.

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                                      Coutts comes across as such a piston wristed gibbon.

                                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/123910904/americas-cup-copyright-claim-filed-by-coutts-vindictive

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                                      • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                        Coutts comes across as such a piston wristed gibbon.

                                        https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/123910904/americas-cup-copyright-claim-filed-by-coutts-vindictive

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                                        @Bovidae total fluffybunny

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                                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/americas-cup/123921543/americas-cup-is-sir-ben-ainslie-emerging-as-future-partner-for-team-new-Zealand

                                          in other news, has he given up already, we'll take his money but not sure we need him to help tune anything

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