Australia v India
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Thinking more broadly, what is it about these on or off-field 'incidents' that we are so drawn to? It's not exclusive to cricket, but this test was a great example.
It was a genuine all-time effort from India on Day 5. So many different threads you could pull out of that match - Smith's return to form with the bat, the performances of young Pucovski and Green, the failure of Australia's bowling attack on day 5, the amazing innings of Pant, the batting of the injured Vihari, Pujara being Pujara, the return of Sharma, etc etc etc.
And yet discussion is dominated by a few incidents that, while unsavoury, had no real bearing on the game or series.
It reminds me a bit of the NBA, where so often the actual basketball is forgotten in all the trades and commentary.
This has been a gripping series from top to tail, but I can't help feeling like it has only grabbed the public's attention in the last 48 hours, all because of a few 'incidents'.
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Thinking more broadly, what is it about these on or off-field 'incidents' that we are so drawn to? It's not exclusive to cricket, but this test was a great example.
It was a genuine all-time effort from India on Day 5. So many different threads you could pull out of that match - Smith's return to form with the bat, the performances of young Pucovski and Green, the failure of Australia's bowling attack on day 5, the amazing innings of Pant, the batting of the injured Vihari, Pujara being Pujara, the return of Sharma, etc etc etc.
And yet discussion is dominated by a few incidents that, while unsavoury, had no real bearing on the game or series.
It reminds me a bit of the NBA, where so often the actual basketball is forgotten in all the trades and commentary.
This has been a gripping series from top to tail, but I can't help feeling like it has only grabbed the public's attention in the last 48 hours, all because of a few 'incidents'.
@barbarian said in Australia v India:
Thinking more broadly, what is it about these on or off-field 'incidents' that we are so drawn to? It's not exclusive to cricket, but this test was a great example.
It was a genuine all-time effort from India on Day 5. So many different threads you could pull out of that match - Smith's return to form with the bat, the performances of young Pucovski and Green, the failure of Australia's bowling attack on day 5, the amazing innings of Pant, the batting of the injured Vihari, Pujara being Pujara, the return of Sharma, etc etc etc.
And yet discussion is dominated by a few incidents that, while unsavoury, had no real bearing on the game or series.
It reminds me a bit of the NBA, where so often the actual basketball is forgotten in all the trades and commentary.
This has been a gripping series from top to tail, but I can't help feeling like it has only grabbed the public's attention in the last 48 hours, all because of a few 'incidents'.
for the same reason that political discourse gets less and less civil all the time
a 24-hour media cycle and a LOT of people whose employment relies on people clicking shit. And most of those people have no actual insight in to anything, or, alternatively (and more scarily) are encouraged not to bother with insight.
Chuck in ex-players who love to comment and feel relevant and it's a beautiful fire of bullshit.
Many many more people are going to click on an article about Steve Smith "cheating" than about an indian player's return to form, or how they negated the Australian attack.
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@barbarian agreed. Smith's actions were dickish, i don't give a fuck what Langer says, it was a dick move
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it should not be the biggest thing to come out of what was a ripper of a game of test cricket. And as you say, sets up an amazing last test. It's such a pity the indian pace attack has been decimated, and Kohli isn't playing. I expect Aus to win just based on Bumrah now also being out.
@mariner4life said in Australia v India:
@barbarian agreed. Smith's actions were dickish, i don't give a fuck what Langer says, it was a dick move
BUT
it should not be the biggest thing to come out of what was a ripper of a game of test cricket. And as you say, sets up an amazing last test. It's such a pity the indian pace attack has been decimated, and Kohli isn't playing. I expect Aus to win just based on Bumrah now also being out.
Is he definitely out? I didn't know that. What a stinker!!
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But how would it cause mayhem? As Lemon's article outlines, the three main markings by the end of day 5 are so deep that you can't alter them without a shovel.
A number of people who have played with Smith have come out and said that he does this almost every break, it's incredibly common. He's a compulsive shadow batter, he does it in his hotel room, in the dressing room, in the shower. Marking centre is a part of that routine. It's weird but I just don't understand how it's anything nefarious.
@barbarian said in Australia v India:
A number of people who have played with Smith have come out and said that he does this almost every break, it's incredibly common. He's a compulsive shadow batter, he does it in his hotel room, in the dressing room, in the shower. Marking centre is a part of that routine. It's weird but I just don't understand how it's anything nefarious.
I hear people keep saying this but with TV production today if this was the case they could pull vision of these examples which are happening "every break" and "all the time". Fox has a relationship with CA and would have it out there stat if it existed.
It was absolutely a Day 5 desperation bit of gamesmanship - no big deal. Not since John Hopoate have I heard a less plausible explanation.
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@barbarian said in Australia v India:
A number of people who have played with Smith have come out and said that he does this almost every break, it's incredibly common. He's a compulsive shadow batter, he does it in his hotel room, in the dressing room, in the shower. Marking centre is a part of that routine. It's weird but I just don't understand how it's anything nefarious.
I hear people keep saying this but with TV production today if this was the case they could pull vision of these examples which are happening "every break" and "all the time". Fox has a relationship with CA and would have it out there stat if it existed.
It was absolutely a Day 5 desperation bit of gamesmanship - no big deal. Not since John Hopoate have I heard a less plausible explanation.
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@rotated said in Australia v India:
Not since John Hopoate have I heard a less plausible explanation.
I've got to ask - what was the explanation?
He was learning proctology?
@Snowy said in Australia v India:
@rotated said in Australia v India:
Not since John Hopoate have I heard a less plausible explanation.
I've got to ask - what was the explanation?
He was learning proctology?
He was giving them a 'wedgie' and it went wrong on three to five seperate occasions over a couple of rounds.
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@Snowy said in Australia v India:
@rotated said in Australia v India:
Not since John Hopoate have I heard a less plausible explanation.
I've got to ask - what was the explanation?
He was learning proctology?
He was giving them a 'wedgie' and it went wrong on three to five seperate occasions over a couple of rounds.
@rotated said in Australia v India:
@Snowy said in Australia v India:
@rotated said in Australia v India:
Not since John Hopoate have I heard a less plausible explanation.
I've got to ask - what was the explanation?
He was learning proctology?
He was giving them a 'wedgie' and it went wrong on three to five seperate occasions over a couple of rounds.
He must have "misunderstood" what a wedgie is...
I'm not actually sure that there is a plausible excuse for sticking a finger up other players dates (not their girlfriends) on a rugby field. Is there? I have nothing, but you are a sick bunch so have a go.
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@rotated said in Australia v India:
@Snowy said in Australia v India:
@rotated said in Australia v India:
Not since John Hopoate have I heard a less plausible explanation.
I've got to ask - what was the explanation?
He was learning proctology?
He was giving them a 'wedgie' and it went wrong on three to five seperate occasions over a couple of rounds.
He must have "misunderstood" what a wedgie is...
I'm not actually sure that there is a plausible excuse for sticking a finger up other players dates (not their girlfriends) on a rugby field. Is there? I have nothing, but you are a sick bunch so have a go.
@Snowy said in Australia v India:
@rotated said in Australia v India:
@Snowy said in Australia v India:
@rotated said in Australia v India:
Not since John Hopoate have I heard a less plausible explanation.
I've got to ask - what was the explanation?
He was learning proctology?
He was giving them a 'wedgie' and it went wrong on three to five seperate occasions over a couple of rounds.
He must have "misunderstood" what a wedgie is...
I'm not actually sure that there is a plausible excuse for sticking a finger up other players dates (not their girlfriends) on a rugby field. Is there? I have nothing, but you are a sick bunch so have a go.
if you're playing in, say, Southland, it's really cold?
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@Snowy said in Australia v India:
@rotated said in Australia v India:
@Snowy said in Australia v India:
@rotated said in Australia v India:
Not since John Hopoate have I heard a less plausible explanation.
I've got to ask - what was the explanation?
He was learning proctology?
He was giving them a 'wedgie' and it went wrong on three to five seperate occasions over a couple of rounds.
He must have "misunderstood" what a wedgie is...
I'm not actually sure that there is a plausible excuse for sticking a finger up other players dates (not their girlfriends) on a rugby field. Is there? I have nothing, but you are a sick bunch so have a go.
if you're playing in, say, Southland, it's really cold?
@mariner4life said in Australia v India:
@Snowy said in Australia v India:
@rotated said in Australia v India:
@Snowy said in Australia v India:
@rotated said in Australia v India:
Not since John Hopoate have I heard a less plausible explanation.
I've got to ask - what was the explanation?
He was learning proctology?
He was giving them a 'wedgie' and it went wrong on three to five seperate occasions over a couple of rounds.
He must have "misunderstood" what a wedgie is...
I'm not actually sure that there is a plausible excuse for sticking a finger up other players dates (not their girlfriends) on a rugby field. Is there? I have nothing, but you are a sick bunch so have a go.
if you're playing in, say, Southland, it's really cold?
So thermal "recti" fication for the cold?
Still not really buying it. You being first to arrive with an excuse for anal probing isn't too much of a shock though. Kudos.
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@mariner4life said in Australia v India:
@Snowy said in Australia v India:
@rotated said in Australia v India:
@Snowy said in Australia v India:
@rotated said in Australia v India:
Not since John Hopoate have I heard a less plausible explanation.
I've got to ask - what was the explanation?
He was learning proctology?
He was giving them a 'wedgie' and it went wrong on three to five seperate occasions over a couple of rounds.
He must have "misunderstood" what a wedgie is...
I'm not actually sure that there is a plausible excuse for sticking a finger up other players dates (not their girlfriends) on a rugby field. Is there? I have nothing, but you are a sick bunch so have a go.
if you're playing in, say, Southland, it's really cold?
So thermal "recti" fication for the cold?
Still not really buying it. You being first to arrive with an excuse for anal probing isn't too much of a shock though. Kudos.
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@mariner4life said in Australia v India:
@Snowy said in Australia v India:
@rotated said in Australia v India:
@Snowy said in Australia v India:
@rotated said in Australia v India:
Not since John Hopoate have I heard a less plausible explanation.
I've got to ask - what was the explanation?
He was learning proctology?
He was giving them a 'wedgie' and it went wrong on three to five seperate occasions over a couple of rounds.
He must have "misunderstood" what a wedgie is...
I'm not actually sure that there is a plausible excuse for sticking a finger up other players dates (not their girlfriends) on a rugby field. Is there? I have nothing, but you are a sick bunch so have a go.
if you're playing in, say, Southland, it's really cold?
So thermal "recti" fication for the cold?
Still not really buying it. You being first to arrive with an excuse for anal probing isn't too much of a shock though. Kudos.
@Snowy said in Australia v India:
You being first to arrive with an excuse for anal probing isn't too much of a shock though
i don't usually use an excuse. just change lanes without indicating
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@mariner4life You also add in guys like Sehwag and Darren Gough opting for clickbait-esque statements and the fire is roaring before they are even off the ground.
I understand the pile-on. The Sydney test allowed the media (both here and abroad) to dust off three classic old chestnuts at once: the Aussie team are sledging, the Aussie crowd are racist and Smith is a cheat. Talk about an editors dream.
The real shame of it is it's overshadowed the most anticipated test on home soil in maybe a decade. When was the last time we had a genuine decider in a test series? I can't remember, maybe a game against South Africa?
@barbarian said in Australia v India:
@mariner4life You also add in guys like Sehwag and Darren Gough opting for clickbait-esque statements and the fire is roaring before they are even off the ground.
I understand the pile-on. The Sydney test allowed the media (both here and abroad) to dust off three classic old chestnuts at once: the Aussie team are sledging, the Aussie crowd are racist and Smith is a cheat. Talk about an editors dream.
The real shame of it is it's overshadowed the most anticipated test on home soil in maybe a decade. When was the last time we had a genuine decider in a test series? I can't remember, maybe a game against South Africa?
Well let’s look back before the SCG test and all of a sudden there’s a made up story about the GABBA test and India not wanting to play it if there is this Covid restriction and protocol. That was not coming from the India camp....
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@Snowy maybe John saw how Han stuffed Luke into a Tauntaun to warm him up? Just lucky for those other players that he only had a cold finger...
@Paekakboyz said in Australia v India:
@Snowy maybe John saw how Han stuffed Luke into a Tauntaun to warm him up? Just lucky for those other players that he only had a cold finger...
Holy shit, gratuitous Star Wars reference !!!!!
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Aussie wins the toss and bats first
Consensus seems to be that the pitch is drier than normal. Already has a crack in it
Australia
1 David Warner, 2 Marcus Harris, 3 Marnus Labuschagne, 4 Steven Smith, 5 Matthew Wade, 6 Cameron Green, 7 Tim Paine (capt & wk), 8 Pat Cummins, 9 Mitchell Starc, 10 Nathan Lyon, 11 Josh HazlewoodIndia
1 Rohit Sharma, 2 Shubman Gill, 3 Cheteshwar Pujara, 4 Ajinkya Rahane (capt), 5 Mayank Agarwal, 6 Rishabh Pant (wk), 7 Washington Sundar, 8 Shardul Thakur, 9 Navdeep Saini, 10 Mohammed Siraj, 11 T Natarajan -
Aussie wins the toss and bats first
Consensus seems to be that the pitch is drier than normal. Already has a crack in it
Australia
1 David Warner, 2 Marcus Harris, 3 Marnus Labuschagne, 4 Steven Smith, 5 Matthew Wade, 6 Cameron Green, 7 Tim Paine (capt & wk), 8 Pat Cummins, 9 Mitchell Starc, 10 Nathan Lyon, 11 Josh HazlewoodIndia
1 Rohit Sharma, 2 Shubman Gill, 3 Cheteshwar Pujara, 4 Ajinkya Rahane (capt), 5 Mayank Agarwal, 6 Rishabh Pant (wk), 7 Washington Sundar, 8 Shardul Thakur, 9 Navdeep Saini, 10 Mohammed Siraj, 11 T Natarajan@Duluth said in Australia v India:
Aussie wins the toss and bats first
Consensus seems to be that the pitch is drier than normal. Already has a crack in it
Australia
1 David Warner, 2 Marcus Harris, 3 Marnus Labuschagne, 4 Steven Smith, 5 Matthew Wade, 6 Cameron Green, 7 Tim Paine (capt & wk), 8 Pat Cummins, 9 Mitchell Starc, 10 Nathan Lyon, 11 Josh HazlewoodIndia
1 Rohit Sharma, 2 Shubman Gill, 3 Cheteshwar Pujara, 4 Ajinkya Rahane (capt), 5 Mayank Agarwal, 6 Rishabh Pant (wk), 7 Washington Sundar, 8 Shardul Thakur, 9 Navdeep Saini, 10 Mohammed Siraj, 11 T NatarajanThat Australian batting line up is a strange mix of absolutely outstanding, extremely journeymanish and inexperienced.
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@Duluth said in Australia v India:
Aussie wins the toss and bats first
Consensus seems to be that the pitch is drier than normal. Already has a crack in it
Australia
1 David Warner, 2 Marcus Harris, 3 Marnus Labuschagne, 4 Steven Smith, 5 Matthew Wade, 6 Cameron Green, 7 Tim Paine (capt & wk), 8 Pat Cummins, 9 Mitchell Starc, 10 Nathan Lyon, 11 Josh HazlewoodIndia
1 Rohit Sharma, 2 Shubman Gill, 3 Cheteshwar Pujara, 4 Ajinkya Rahane (capt), 5 Mayank Agarwal, 6 Rishabh Pant (wk), 7 Washington Sundar, 8 Shardul Thakur, 9 Navdeep Saini, 10 Mohammed Siraj, 11 T NatarajanThat Australian batting line up is a strange mix of absolutely outstanding, extremely journeymanish and inexperienced.
@MN5 said in Australia v India:
@Duluth said in Australia v India:
Aussie wins the toss and bats first
Consensus seems to be that the pitch is drier than normal. Already has a crack in it
Australia
1 David Warner, 2 Marcus Harris, 3 Marnus Labuschagne, 4 Steven Smith, 5 Matthew Wade, 6 Cameron Green, 7 Tim Paine (capt & wk), 8 Pat Cummins, 9 Mitchell Starc, 10 Nathan Lyon, 11 Josh HazlewoodIndia
1 Rohit Sharma, 2 Shubman Gill, 3 Cheteshwar Pujara, 4 Ajinkya Rahane (capt), 5 Mayank Agarwal, 6 Rishabh Pant (wk), 7 Washington Sundar, 8 Shardul Thakur, 9 Navdeep Saini, 10 Mohammed Siraj, 11 T NatarajanThat Australian batting line up is a strange mix of absolutely outstanding, extremely journeymanish and inexperienced.
They'll back themselves against the Indian 'attack' for this test.
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@MN5 said in Australia v India:
@Duluth said in Australia v India:
Aussie wins the toss and bats first
Consensus seems to be that the pitch is drier than normal. Already has a crack in it
Australia
1 David Warner, 2 Marcus Harris, 3 Marnus Labuschagne, 4 Steven Smith, 5 Matthew Wade, 6 Cameron Green, 7 Tim Paine (capt & wk), 8 Pat Cummins, 9 Mitchell Starc, 10 Nathan Lyon, 11 Josh HazlewoodIndia
1 Rohit Sharma, 2 Shubman Gill, 3 Cheteshwar Pujara, 4 Ajinkya Rahane (capt), 5 Mayank Agarwal, 6 Rishabh Pant (wk), 7 Washington Sundar, 8 Shardul Thakur, 9 Navdeep Saini, 10 Mohammed Siraj, 11 T NatarajanThat Australian batting line up is a strange mix of absolutely outstanding, extremely journeymanish and inexperienced.
They'll back themselves against the Indian 'attack' for this test.
@KiwiMurph said in Australia v India:
@MN5 said in Australia v India:
@Duluth said in Australia v India:
Aussie wins the toss and bats first
Consensus seems to be that the pitch is drier than normal. Already has a crack in it
Australia
1 David Warner, 2 Marcus Harris, 3 Marnus Labuschagne, 4 Steven Smith, 5 Matthew Wade, 6 Cameron Green, 7 Tim Paine (capt & wk), 8 Pat Cummins, 9 Mitchell Starc, 10 Nathan Lyon, 11 Josh HazlewoodIndia
1 Rohit Sharma, 2 Shubman Gill, 3 Cheteshwar Pujara, 4 Ajinkya Rahane (capt), 5 Mayank Agarwal, 6 Rishabh Pant (wk), 7 Washington Sundar, 8 Shardul Thakur, 9 Navdeep Saini, 10 Mohammed Siraj, 11 T NatarajanThat Australian batting line up is a strange mix of absolutely outstanding, extremely journeymanish and inexperienced.
They'll back themselves against the Indian 'attack' for this test.
Fighting words
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India really needed to win that toss and put some runs on the board.
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India really needed to win that toss and put some runs on the board.
@No-Quarter said in Australia v India:
India really needed to win that toss and put some runs on the board.
Yep - they're fucked.
