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    Crucial
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    #517

    Critical factor seems to be the windspeed required to get up. Reduce that by even a little and you will get a jump.
    If light winds aren't a factor then it is sailing ability and boat speed.
    Have to admit that Ainslie looks to be the top skipper at the starts.

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    • CrucialC Crucial

      Critical factor seems to be the windspeed required to get up. Reduce that by even a little and you will get a jump.
      If light winds aren't a factor then it is sailing ability and boat speed.
      Have to admit that Ainslie looks to be the top skipper at the starts.

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      #518

      @Crucial said in Americas Cup:

      Critical factor seems to be the windspeed required to get up. Reduce that by even a little and you will get a jump.
      If light winds aren't a factor then it is sailing ability and boat speed.
      Have to admit that Ainslie looks to be the top skipper at the starts.

      Yeah that was what I was getting at with the 6 kt limit. Maybe our design guys reckon we can do that and that is why it was set there. Maybe Prada do too as challenger of record.

      We haven't seen any races up to 20kt yet I don't think, so hard to say about comment two. Sailing ability comes into all conditions really and boat speed will depend on foil design for lighter or heavier air. Instability at really high speeds, risk of capsize, cartwheel, pitch pole against a displacement "race". These things have a tiny skeg (rather than keel) which the foils have to act as, otherwise they can just go sideways in light air.

      Ainslie definitely the gun at the start.

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        #519

        that was a crazy end to that leg!!

        And now race abandoned, due to a big wind shift?

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        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

          that was a crazy end to that leg!!

          And now race abandoned, due to a big wind shift?

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          @taniwharugby amazing. Can't remember such a massive shift... Sailing away from the marks is weird

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            #521

            So Team GB are the real deal, both boats moving in excess of 40kn (think top I saw was 43kn) in this one and the one that was abandoned earlier.

            Team USA now the lame duck with no wins yet.

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            • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

              So Team GB are the real deal, both boats moving in excess of 40kn (think top I saw was 43kn) in this one and the one that was abandoned earlier.

              Team USA now the lame duck with no wins yet.

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              #522

              @taniwharugby said in Americas Cup:

              So Team GB are the real deal, both boats moving in excess of 40kn (think top I saw was 43kn) in this one and the one that was abandoned earlier.

              Team USA now the lame duck with no wins yet.

              alt text

              Poor Deano

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              • canefanC canefan

                @taniwharugby said in Americas Cup:

                So Team GB are the real deal, both boats moving in excess of 40kn (think top I saw was 43kn) in this one and the one that was abandoned earlier.

                Team USA now the lame duck with no wins yet.

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                Poor Deano

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                #523

                @canefan they just went 48 knots and are leading Luna Ross's by half a minute

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                  Massive capsize for American magic... Remarkable to see

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                  • nzzpN nzzp

                    Massive capsize for American magic... Remarkable to see

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                    #525

                    @nzzp said in Americas Cup:

                    Massive capsize for American magic... Remarkable to see

                    Its the Dean curse

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                    • M Offline
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                      #526

                      Do you think 'Kyle' was being clever, or is just a dipshit that cannot spell

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                      Cos I think you'll find that it was 'wreckful'! πŸ˜‰

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                      • M Machpants

                        Do you think 'Kyle' was being clever, or is just a dipshit that cannot spell

                        bf657898-0260-4b5d-9dcc-e0f2ef69bafc-image.png

                        Cos I think you'll find that it was 'wreckful'! πŸ˜‰

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                        nzzp
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                        #527

                        @Machpants said in Americas Cup:

                        Do you think 'Kyle' was being clever, or is just a dipshit that cannot spell

                        bf657898-0260-4b5d-9dcc-e0f2ef69bafc-image.png

                        Cos I think you'll find that it was 'wreckful'! πŸ˜‰

                        Risky, but sounds like the leeward runner not being trimmed was the problem.

                        Boat sinking now it seems,a full rescue job. Hull cracked when landing on the foil perhaps?

                        Why you'd cut the coverage off I have no idea

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                        • nzzpN nzzp

                          @Machpants said in Americas Cup:

                          Do you think 'Kyle' was being clever, or is just a dipshit that cannot spell

                          bf657898-0260-4b5d-9dcc-e0f2ef69bafc-image.png

                          Cos I think you'll find that it was 'wreckful'! πŸ˜‰

                          Risky, but sounds like the leeward runner not being trimmed was the problem.

                          Boat sinking now it seems,a full rescue job. Hull cracked when landing on the foil perhaps?

                          Why you'd cut the coverage off I have no idea

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                          @nzzp thought Luna Rossa was lucky not to have a capsize or do damage at the end of that leg just prior to abandonment, looked like they turned the rudder just as they got a bit of air and came down slightly sideways

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                          • nzzpN nzzp

                            @Machpants said in Americas Cup:

                            Do you think 'Kyle' was being clever, or is just a dipshit that cannot spell

                            bf657898-0260-4b5d-9dcc-e0f2ef69bafc-image.png

                            Cos I think you'll find that it was 'wreckful'! πŸ˜‰

                            Risky, but sounds like the leeward runner not being trimmed was the problem.

                            Boat sinking now it seems,a full rescue job. Hull cracked when landing on the foil perhaps?

                            Why you'd cut the coverage off I have no idea

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                            @nzzp said in Americas Cup:

                            @Machpants said in Americas Cup:

                            Do you think 'Kyle' was being clever, or is just a dipshit that cannot spell

                            bf657898-0260-4b5d-9dcc-e0f2ef69bafc-image.png

                            Cos I think you'll find that it was 'wreckful'! πŸ˜‰

                            Risky, but sounds like the leeward runner not being trimmed was the problem.

                            Boat sinking now it seems,a full rescue job. Hull cracked when landing on the foil perhaps?

                            Why you'd cut the coverage off I have no idea

                            Coutts owns the IP for sinking boats.

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                              #530

                              Not a small hole either! I wonder what specifically made that large square hole?

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                              • M Machpants

                                Not a small hole either! I wonder what specifically made that large square hole?

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                                #531

                                @Machpants said in Americas Cup:

                                Not a small hole either! I wonder what specifically made that large square hole?

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                                That is some hole. A miracle they didn't go down

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                                • M Machpants

                                  Not a small hole either! I wonder what specifically made that large square hole?

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                                  @Machpants said in Americas Cup:

                                  Not a small hole either! I wonder what specifically made that large square hole?

                                  It looks like where the hydraulic pumps are to lift the foil arms? From what I have seen they are quite large and probably heavy. The way they came down and impacted on "landing" I wouldn't be surprised if the pumps just kept on going. Guessing of course.

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                                  • canefanC canefan

                                    @Machpants said in Americas Cup:

                                    Not a small hole either! I wonder what specifically made that large square hole?

                                    eb8bde9c-a3c1-4989-856c-4bd5011f3bd7-image.jpeg https://www.nzherald.co.nz/resizer/AU372sfGk8veCk_R4rafjJpUUIk=/1440x1080/smart/filters:quality(70)/cloudfront-ap-southeast-2.images.arcpublishing.com/nzme/4KG7L7KS2ET5SPOT2LAW4NK2KM.jpg

                                    That is some hole. A miracle they didn't go down

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                                    @canefan said in Americas Cup:

                                    That is some hole. A miracle they didn't go down

                                    The capsize after the splash down might explain that. The hole was out of the water with the boat on it's side (maybe). I don't recall seeing a shot of the bottom of the hull after it had gone over.

                                    It was certainly spectacular.

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                                      Peter Lester was saying something inside the hull had to have come loose for it to cause a hole like that.

                                      The way it landed it didnt look like it would have caused too much stress to the hull to cause a crack.

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                                      • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                        Peter Lester was saying something inside the hull had to have come loose for it to cause a hole like that.

                                        The way it landed it didnt look like it would have caused too much stress to the hull to cause a crack.

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                                        Snowy
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                                        @taniwharugby said in Americas Cup:

                                        Peter Lester was saying something inside the hull had to have come loose for it to cause a hole like that.

                                        The way it landed it didnt look like it would have caused too much stress to the hull to cause a crack.

                                        I didn't hear him say that, but sure is what it looks like. Right where the pumps are as I said above.

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                                        • SnowyS Snowy

                                          @taniwharugby said in Americas Cup:

                                          Peter Lester was saying something inside the hull had to have come loose for it to cause a hole like that.

                                          The way it landed it didnt look like it would have caused too much stress to the hull to cause a crack.

                                          I didn't hear him say that, but sure is what it looks like. Right where the pumps are as I said above.

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                                          @Snowy ah that was this morning I heard him say that.

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