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    @canefan they just went 48 knots and are leading Luna Ross's by half a minute

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    Massive capsize for American magic... Remarkable to see

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    @nzzp said in Americas Cup:

    Massive capsize for American magic... Remarkable to see

    Its the Dean curse

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    Do you think 'Kyle' was being clever, or is just a dipshit that cannot spell

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    Cos I think you'll find that it was 'wreckful'! 😉

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    @Machpants said in Americas Cup:

    Do you think 'Kyle' was being clever, or is just a dipshit that cannot spell

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    Cos I think you'll find that it was 'wreckful'! 😉

    Risky, but sounds like the leeward runner not being trimmed was the problem.

    Boat sinking now it seems,a full rescue job. Hull cracked when landing on the foil perhaps?

    Why you'd cut the coverage off I have no idea

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    @nzzp thought Luna Rossa was lucky not to have a capsize or do damage at the end of that leg just prior to abandonment, looked like they turned the rudder just as they got a bit of air and came down slightly sideways

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    @nzzp said in Americas Cup:

    @Machpants said in Americas Cup:

    Do you think 'Kyle' was being clever, or is just a dipshit that cannot spell

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    Cos I think you'll find that it was 'wreckful'! 😉

    Risky, but sounds like the leeward runner not being trimmed was the problem.

    Boat sinking now it seems,a full rescue job. Hull cracked when landing on the foil perhaps?

    Why you'd cut the coverage off I have no idea

    Coutts owns the IP for sinking boats.

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    Not a small hole either! I wonder what specifically made that large square hole?

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    @Machpants said in Americas Cup:

    Not a small hole either! I wonder what specifically made that large square hole?

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    That is some hole. A miracle they didn't go down

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    @Machpants said in Americas Cup:

    Not a small hole either! I wonder what specifically made that large square hole?

    It looks like where the hydraulic pumps are to lift the foil arms? From what I have seen they are quite large and probably heavy. The way they came down and impacted on "landing" I wouldn't be surprised if the pumps just kept on going. Guessing of course.

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    @canefan said in Americas Cup:

    That is some hole. A miracle they didn't go down

    The capsize after the splash down might explain that. The hole was out of the water with the boat on it's side (maybe). I don't recall seeing a shot of the bottom of the hull after it had gone over.

    It was certainly spectacular.

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    Peter Lester was saying something inside the hull had to have come loose for it to cause a hole like that.

    The way it landed it didnt look like it would have caused too much stress to the hull to cause a crack.

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    @taniwharugby said in Americas Cup:

    Peter Lester was saying something inside the hull had to have come loose for it to cause a hole like that.

    The way it landed it didnt look like it would have caused too much stress to the hull to cause a crack.

    I didn't hear him say that, but sure is what it looks like. Right where the pumps are as I said above.

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    @Snowy ah that was this morning I heard him say that.

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    You can see the bit floating in the wake afterwards, whatever punched that hole is probably at the bottom of the harbour

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    @Snowy said in Americas Cup:

    @canefan said in Americas Cup:

    That is some hole. A miracle they didn't go down

    The capsize after the splash down might explain that. The hole was out of the water with the boat on it's side (maybe). I don't recall seeing a shot of the bottom of the hull after it had gone over.

    It was certainly spectacular.

    I thought the port side was the one in the water before going mast up

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    @Kiwiwomble said in Americas Cup:

    I thought the port side was the one in the water before going mast up

    Yes but it was floating quite high compared to where the hole is. It did take on quite a bit of water apparently and they put pumps in, but it must have been mostly out of the water. Hard to tell as I haven't seen the other side of the hull and guessing from this shot to the one above to know where it was.

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    @Snowy I might be missing something, if that's the mast at water line and the keel (as it is) is directly below the mast, and the hole is to the port side of the keel and in front of the foil arm...then that hole must be completely under water, mid stern my be well out of the water but the mast is at water line so the bow must be well under water

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    @Kiwiwomble said in Americas Cup:

    @Snowy I might be missing something, if that's the mast at water line and the keel (as it is) is directly below the mast, and the hole is to the port side of the keel and in front of the foil arm...then that hole must be completely under water

    It is hard to tell, it could be. It was bow down and that was where the water was going it seems, so would have lifted the stern out further and the hole out a bit (maybe)? In that pic you can see where the centre of the stern is well above water line so that may have helped. Really need a shot from the other side which I can't find.

    I wonder whether they have any water tight bulkheads in the hull? I doubt it due to weight.

    As I said they were pumping it out of the bow, so it was taking on water.
    Team NZ tender guys were assisting apparently.

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    @Snowy isn't the hole in front of the foils, closer to the bow, so as the stern lifts the hole goes deeper?

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