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  • StargazerS Stargazer

    The Chiefs are set to revert to a co-captaincy model for their 2021 Super Rugby season in order to ease the workload on All Blacks skipper Sam Cane.

    After eight years of co-captains, Warren Gatland decided to move away from it in his first year in charge in 2020, when he gave Cane full responsibility last season.

    But, with Cane having since been elevated to the All Blacks captaincy as well, interim Chiefs coach Clayton McMillan told Stuff they had to be wary of not overburdening their talismanic openside flanker, so are looking to promote another leader.

    With it common for a forward-back split in the co-captaincy, All Blacks Brad Weber and Anton Lienert-Brown loom as prime candidates, though McMillan even noted they may look at someone who’s not even a regular starter, to have someone who’s likely always on the park at the end of a game.

    A decision will still likely be a few weeks away, with February 1 the date Super Rugby clubs welcome back their All Blacks, who are allowed to play 40 minutes of one pre-season match.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/123958024/super-rugby-chiefs-plan-to-ease-workload-on-all-blacks-captain-sam-cane

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    @Stargazer great to see All Blacks being able to play a preseason match.

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      I assume most of the players will be on these photos:

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      • YeetyaahY Yeetyaah

        @Stargazer great to see All Blacks being able to play a preseason match.

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        @Yeetyaah heard talk of a 'game of 3 halves' between the North Island teams?

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          @Yeetyaah heard talk of a 'game of 3 halves' between the North Island teams?

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          @Nogusta oh real? That sounds awesome.

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          • YeetyaahY Yeetyaah

            @Nogusta oh real? That sounds awesome.

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            @Yeetyaah Blues are playing the Saders on 20th Feb so it would prolly be the weekend before?
            Just 4 weeks away!

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              @Yeetyaah Blues are playing the Saders on 20th Feb so it would prolly be the weekend before?
              Just 4 weeks away!

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              @Nogusta Has to be the weekend before, yes. The Hurricanes play the Highlanders on 19 February.

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              • T trodthesod

                It’s amazing how many players get injured in pre season training.I am an old codger who played in the sixties and I can’t recall losing any players before the season even started.Training of course is on a different level now,but what are the events leading to these injuries.He isn’t the first and won’t be the last.Sad really.

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                @trodthesod said in Chiefs 2021:

                It’s amazing how many players get injured in pre season training.I am an old codger who played in the sixties and I can’t recall losing any players before the season even started.Training of course is on a different level now,but what are the events leading to these injuries.He isn’t the first and won’t be the last.Sad really.

                that was when people used to train on soft grass.. when rugby was a winter sport.. and everyone half the size

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                • BovidaeB Bovidae

                  I've lost count on how many operations McWhannell has had in the last 3 years.

                  I suppose that means van den Hoven would come into the main squad.

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                  @Bovidae said in Chiefs 2021:

                  I've lost count on how many operations McWhannell has had in the last 3 years.

                  I suppose that means van den Hoven would come into the main squad.

                  who would win an operation count out of him and Tucker?!

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                  • WillieTheWaiterW WillieTheWaiter

                    @Bovidae said in Chiefs 2021:

                    I've lost count on how many operations McWhannell has had in the last 3 years.

                    I suppose that means van den Hoven would come into the main squad.

                    who would win an operation count out of him and Tucker?!

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                    @WillieTheWaiter may be time for McWhannell to take up a non contact sport

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                    • WillieTheWaiterW WillieTheWaiter

                      @trodthesod said in Chiefs 2021:

                      It’s amazing how many players get injured in pre season training.I am an old codger who played in the sixties and I can’t recall losing any players before the season even started.Training of course is on a different level now,but what are the events leading to these injuries.He isn’t the first and won’t be the last.Sad really.

                      that was when people used to train on soft grass.. when rugby was a winter sport.. and everyone half the size

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                      @WillieTheWaiter said in Chiefs 2021:

                      @trodthesod said in Chiefs 2021:

                      It’s amazing how many players get injured in pre season training.I am an old codger who played in the sixties and I can’t recall losing any players before the season even started.Training of course is on a different level now,but what are the events leading to these injuries.He isn’t the first and won’t be the last.Sad really.

                      that was when people used to train on soft grass.. when rugby was a winter sport.. and everyone half the size

                      my late former boss played for Qld back in the day. He used to laugh at my preseason regime. In his day preseason games were preseason. Now we had preseason training to get ready for preseason games. At one point i was training 11 months of the year, compared to his 6.

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                        Has Catley and Gordon Brunskill had us running around the Cambridge Racecourse.Don’t recall the grass being that soft,but the alcohol the night before sitting pretty heavy!Running around the block on the road another less than soft surface.Playing a ten aside tournament at Easter in Ngahinapouri another gut buster.

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                          Ah Kuoi
                          Josh Lord
                          Laghlan McWhannell
                          Tupou Vaa'i

                          Shame we lost Allardice and Retallick won't be back till next year. Look very weak in second row, even if I am a fan of Vaa'i.

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                            Is Mcwhannell confirmed out long term or just a few weeks for healing and rehab? Presume Brown will cover and Finau and Van den Hoven are rather good cover from wtg. Not so horribly gloomy in my view.

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                              Is Mcwhannell confirmed out long term or just a few weeks for healing and rehab? Presume Brown will cover and Finau and Van den Hoven are rather good cover from wtg. Not so horribly gloomy in my view.

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                              @ARHS said in Chiefs 2021:

                              Is Mcwhannell confirmed out long term or just a few weeks for healing and rehab? Presume Brown will cover and Finau and Van den Hoven are rather good cover from wtg. Not so horribly gloomy in my view.

                              months not weeks.

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                                Is Mcwhannell confirmed out long term or just a few weeks for healing and rehab? Presume Brown will cover and Finau and Van den Hoven are rather good cover from wtg. Not so horribly gloomy in my view.

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                                @ARHS haven't seen much of van den Hoven. He go alright?

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                                • WillieTheWaiterW WillieTheWaiter

                                  @Bovidae said in Chiefs 2021:

                                  I've lost count on how many operations McWhannell has had in the last 3 years.

                                  I suppose that means van den Hoven would come into the main squad.

                                  who would win an operation count out of him and Tucker?!

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                                  @WillieTheWaiter said in Chiefs 2021:

                                  @Bovidae said in Chiefs 2021:

                                  I've lost count on how many operations McWhannell has had in the last 3 years.

                                  I suppose that means van den Hoven would come into the main squad.

                                  who would win an operation count out of him and Tucker?!

                                  🙂

                                  Tucker for the seriousness of his injuries. McWhannell's injuries have been restricted to his legs/knees, while Tucker has had major operations on shoulders and knees.

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                                  • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                    @WillieTheWaiter said in Chiefs 2021:

                                    @Bovidae said in Chiefs 2021:

                                    I've lost count on how many operations McWhannell has had in the last 3 years.

                                    I suppose that means van den Hoven would come into the main squad.

                                    who would win an operation count out of him and Tucker?!

                                    🙂

                                    Tucker for the seriousness of his injuries. McWhannell's injuries have been restricted to his legs/knees, while Tucker has had major operations on shoulders and knees.

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                                    @Bovidae said in Chiefs 2021:

                                    @WillieTheWaiter said in Chiefs 2021:

                                    @Bovidae said in Chiefs 2021:

                                    I've lost count on how many operations McWhannell has had in the last 3 years.

                                    I suppose that means van den Hoven would come into the main squad.

                                    who would win an operation count out of him and Tucker?!

                                    🙂

                                    Tucker for the seriousness of his injuries. McWhannell's injuries have been restricted to his legs/knees, while Tucker has had major operations on shoulders and knees.

                                    busting his tail bone gives him the title! at least he gets the odd game in, mcwhannell been about 3 years!

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                                    • YeetyaahY Yeetyaah

                                      @ARHS haven't seen much of van den Hoven. He go alright?

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                                      @Yeetyaah He graduated into being a dominant force at NPC level this season, and has a great frame to work with. He is good at securing possession and has presence

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                                      • mofitzy_M mofitzy_

                                        Ah Kuoi
                                        Josh Lord
                                        Laghlan McWhannell
                                        Tupou Vaa'i

                                        Shame we lost Allardice and Retallick won't be back till next year. Look very weak in second row, even if I am a fan of Vaa'i.

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                                        @mofitzy_ said in Chiefs 2021:

                                        Shame we lost Allardice and Retallick won't be back till next year. Look very weak in second row, even if I am a fan of Vaa'i.

                                        Inexperienced is the word I'd use. Vaa'i and Ah Kuoi to start again with Brown off the bench is probably the best option. I hope Lord get his chance too but he will need to add some bulk.

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                                        • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                          @mofitzy_ said in Chiefs 2021:

                                          Shame we lost Allardice and Retallick won't be back till next year. Look very weak in second row, even if I am a fan of Vaa'i.

                                          Inexperienced is the word I'd use. Vaa'i and Ah Kuoi to start again with Brown off the bench is probably the best option. I hope Lord get his chance too but he will need to add some bulk.

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                                          @Bovidae
                                          Fair, Lord is 19, Vaii'i is 20, and Ah Kuoi is 21. Super green.

                                          Still plenty of room to improve for all of them.

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