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Americas Cup

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  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

    apparently Team USA hit a record speed for these boats of 53.31kn, almost 100km in 21kn winds!

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    @taniwharugby said in Americas Cup:

    apparently Team USA hit a record speed for these boats of 53.31kn, almost 100km in 21kn winds!

    At approx 18 million NZD per race, you'd hope so! I coulda brought and paid for a life time of Hawk flights for that 😉

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      @taniwharugby said in Americas Cup:

      apparently Team USA hit a record speed for these boats of 53.31kn, almost 100km in 21kn winds!

      At approx 18 million NZD per race, you'd hope so! I coulda brought and paid for a life time of Hawk flights for that 😉

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      @Machpants said in Americas Cup:

      @taniwharugby said in Americas Cup:

      apparently Team USA hit a record speed for these boats of 53.31kn, almost 100km in 21kn winds!

      At approx 18 million NZD per race, you'd hope so! I coulda brought and paid for a life time of Hawk flights for that 😉

      By my calculations, if it was about 25deg out there, LSS was about 662kts, they were close to mach .08 at 53 knots. Fast for a boat, but yes very expensive compared to a Hawk in dollars per mach number. Hawk is mid point eights straight and level like an A330 I think?

      Cost aside, I think I would rather have a go in the boat.

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        Quite a change in conditions for today's racing.

        https://twitter.com/americascup/status/1355264866089623558?s=20

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          Not sure that they will race. The met service has it at 7kph, so well under the 6 knot limit. Forecast is for it to fill in a bit by 3pm. Might end up being a displacement race. No idea how that might pan out or whether they can get around the course in time (doubtful).

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            That AC forecast also has a NE -N, the met service has S-SW until 9pm. Completely contrary. A sea breeze is likely so maybe AC have it right, but it might just counter the prevailing to nothing.
            I had an afternoon on the couch with a few beers planned. Very annoying.

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              One more race until USA packs up and goes home.

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                One more race until USA packs up and goes home.

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                @Bovidae they have plenty of speed but getting done on the starts and arent able to recover.

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                  @Bovidae they have plenty of speed but getting done on the starts and arent able to recover.

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                  @taniwharugby said in Americas Cup:

                  @Bovidae they have plenty of speed but getting done on the starts and arent able to recover.

                  They look very slow tacking or gybing too, seem to lose a huge amount of boat speed

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                  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                    @Bovidae they have plenty of speed but getting done on the starts and arent able to recover.

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                    @taniwharugby That start was even but Luna Rossa got the favoured right side.

                    USA needs to be ultra-aggressive in the pre-start in race 4 because they won't win unless they force a mistake from Luna Rossa. No point in trailing every leg - again.

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                      @taniwharugby said in Americas Cup:

                      @Bovidae they have plenty of speed but getting done on the starts and arent able to recover.

                      They look very slow tacking or gybing too, seem to lose a huge amount of boat speed

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                      @nzzp possibly a bit gun shy after falling the other week turning at high speed and again yesterday?

                      @Bovidae thats the thing, he was on the wrong side of the start (well, seemed the wrong side) and from there LR built her lead.

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                        Barker is shit, that start was awful

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                          Then a tech issue at first turn, time to go home with just ten races... Issue again, off the foils...

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                            poor buggars!

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                            • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                              poor buggars!

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                              @taniwharugby said in Americas Cup:

                              poor buggars!

                              Yeah but they would've lost anyway

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                                Barker is shit, that start was awful

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                                @Machpants said in Americas Cup:

                                Barker is shit, that start was awful

                                He is just so passive compared to Spithill.

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                                  @taniwharugby said in Americas Cup:

                                  poor buggars!

                                  Yeah but they would've lost anyway

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                                  @Machpants its one thing to get beaten by skill but to add in mechanical issues just adds salt to the wounds

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                                    Team UK's struggles in light winds becomes apparent in the pre-start.

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                                      Surely they must have known in practice that they are a dog in these conditions?
                                      Just punting on strong winds?

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                                        Surely they must have known in practice that they are a dog in these conditions?
                                        Just punting on strong winds?

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                                        @Crucial Yes. From what I have read the designers optimise for a wind range and you hope that covers as wide of a range as possible. Team UK wants stronger winds while Luna Rossa is better at the lower end.

                                        1:52 secs win to Luna Rossa in race 1.

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                                          Luna Rossa looks the better boat in mid range as well

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