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Americas Cup

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  • SnowyS Offline
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    Snowy
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    #632

    That AC forecast also has a NE -N, the met service has S-SW until 9pm. Completely contrary. A sea breeze is likely so maybe AC have it right, but it might just counter the prevailing to nothing.
    I had an afternoon on the couch with a few beers planned. Very annoying.

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      Bovidae
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      One more race until USA packs up and goes home.

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      • BovidaeB Bovidae

        One more race until USA packs up and goes home.

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        @Bovidae they have plenty of speed but getting done on the starts and arent able to recover.

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        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

          @Bovidae they have plenty of speed but getting done on the starts and arent able to recover.

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          @taniwharugby said in Americas Cup:

          @Bovidae they have plenty of speed but getting done on the starts and arent able to recover.

          They look very slow tacking or gybing too, seem to lose a huge amount of boat speed

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          • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

            @Bovidae they have plenty of speed but getting done on the starts and arent able to recover.

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            #636

            @taniwharugby That start was even but Luna Rossa got the favoured right side.

            USA needs to be ultra-aggressive in the pre-start in race 4 because they won't win unless they force a mistake from Luna Rossa. No point in trailing every leg - again.

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            • nzzpN nzzp

              @taniwharugby said in Americas Cup:

              @Bovidae they have plenty of speed but getting done on the starts and arent able to recover.

              They look very slow tacking or gybing too, seem to lose a huge amount of boat speed

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              #637

              @nzzp possibly a bit gun shy after falling the other week turning at high speed and again yesterday?

              @Bovidae thats the thing, he was on the wrong side of the start (well, seemed the wrong side) and from there LR built her lead.

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              • M Offline
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                Barker is shit, that start was awful

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                  Then a tech issue at first turn, time to go home with just ten races... Issue again, off the foils...

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                    poor buggars!

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                    • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                      poor buggars!

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                      @taniwharugby said in Americas Cup:

                      poor buggars!

                      Yeah but they would've lost anyway

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                      • M Machpants

                        Barker is shit, that start was awful

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                        #642

                        @Machpants said in Americas Cup:

                        Barker is shit, that start was awful

                        He is just so passive compared to Spithill.

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                        • M Machpants

                          @taniwharugby said in Americas Cup:

                          poor buggars!

                          Yeah but they would've lost anyway

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                          @Machpants its one thing to get beaten by skill but to add in mechanical issues just adds salt to the wounds

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                            Team UK's struggles in light winds becomes apparent in the pre-start.

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                              Surely they must have known in practice that they are a dog in these conditions?
                              Just punting on strong winds?

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                                Surely they must have known in practice that they are a dog in these conditions?
                                Just punting on strong winds?

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                                @Crucial Yes. From what I have read the designers optimise for a wind range and you hope that covers as wide of a range as possible. Team UK wants stronger winds while Luna Rossa is better at the lower end.

                                1:52 secs win to Luna Rossa in race 1.

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                                  Luna Rossa looks the better boat in mid range as well

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                                    Lester also made the comment that Luna Rossa looks to be an easier boat to sail as Team UK lost ground every time they tacked/gybed.

                                    Team UK will be wanting winds at the upper limit to maximise their strengths.

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                                    • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                      Team UK's struggles in light winds becomes apparent in the pre-start.

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                                      @Bovidae said in Americas Cup:

                                      Team UK's struggles in light winds becomes apparent in the pre-start.

                                      They definitely need a decent blow to get it up, otherwise they are just flopping about.

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                                      • SnowyS Snowy

                                        @Bovidae said in Americas Cup:

                                        Team UK's struggles in light winds becomes apparent in the pre-start.

                                        They definitely need a decent blow to get it up, otherwise they are just flopping about.

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                                        @Snowy bloody windy in NLD, so I guess breeze maybe up a bit on yesterday?

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                                          @Snowy bloody windy in NLD, so I guess breeze maybe up a bit on yesterday?

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                                          #651

                                          @Machpants said in Americas Cup:

                                          @Snowy bloody windy in NLD, so I guess breeze maybe up a bit on yesterday?

                                          Probably about the same as yesterday afternoon's second race. NE, with the sea breeze filling it in. Forecast for 24kph, so about 13 knots. Enough for Ineos to get it up but they were still relatively slow and struggled to maneuver. They will want more than that - might get it, but is pretty still where I am north of Auckland and we are on a ridge facing NE.

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