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  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

    poor buggars!

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    @taniwharugby said in Americas Cup:

    poor buggars!

    Yeah but they would've lost anyway

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      Barker is shit, that start was awful

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      @Machpants said in Americas Cup:

      Barker is shit, that start was awful

      He is just so passive compared to Spithill.

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        @taniwharugby said in Americas Cup:

        poor buggars!

        Yeah but they would've lost anyway

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        @Machpants its one thing to get beaten by skill but to add in mechanical issues just adds salt to the wounds

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          Team UK's struggles in light winds becomes apparent in the pre-start.

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            Surely they must have known in practice that they are a dog in these conditions?
            Just punting on strong winds?

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              Surely they must have known in practice that they are a dog in these conditions?
              Just punting on strong winds?

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              @Crucial Yes. From what I have read the designers optimise for a wind range and you hope that covers as wide of a range as possible. Team UK wants stronger winds while Luna Rossa is better at the lower end.

              1:52 secs win to Luna Rossa in race 1.

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                Luna Rossa looks the better boat in mid range as well

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                  Lester also made the comment that Luna Rossa looks to be an easier boat to sail as Team UK lost ground every time they tacked/gybed.

                  Team UK will be wanting winds at the upper limit to maximise their strengths.

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                  • BovidaeB Bovidae

                    Team UK's struggles in light winds becomes apparent in the pre-start.

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                    @Bovidae said in Americas Cup:

                    Team UK's struggles in light winds becomes apparent in the pre-start.

                    They definitely need a decent blow to get it up, otherwise they are just flopping about.

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                      @Bovidae said in Americas Cup:

                      Team UK's struggles in light winds becomes apparent in the pre-start.

                      They definitely need a decent blow to get it up, otherwise they are just flopping about.

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                      @Snowy bloody windy in NLD, so I guess breeze maybe up a bit on yesterday?

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                        @Snowy bloody windy in NLD, so I guess breeze maybe up a bit on yesterday?

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                        @Machpants said in Americas Cup:

                        @Snowy bloody windy in NLD, so I guess breeze maybe up a bit on yesterday?

                        Probably about the same as yesterday afternoon's second race. NE, with the sea breeze filling it in. Forecast for 24kph, so about 13 knots. Enough for Ineos to get it up but they were still relatively slow and struggled to maneuver. They will want more than that - might get it, but is pretty still where I am north of Auckland and we are on a ridge facing NE.

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                          A different course today, so wind conditions are also different.

                          https://twitter.com/americascup/status/1360704027080679432?s=20

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                            A different course today, so wind conditions are also different.

                            https://twitter.com/americascup/status/1360704027080679432?s=20

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                            @Bovidae said in Americas Cup:

                            A different course today, so wind conditions are also different.

                            A NE with about 14 knots was about the same as race two yesterday, although they did adjust the course for the second race.

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                              @Bovidae said in Americas Cup:

                              A different course today, so wind conditions are also different.

                              A NE with about 14 knots was about the same as race two yesterday, although they did adjust the course for the second race.

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                              @Snowy said in Americas Cup:

                              @Bovidae said in Americas Cup:

                              A different course today, so wind conditions are also different.

                              A NE with about 14 knots was about the same as race two yesterday, although they did adjust the course for the second race.

                              The commentators were saying that the changes in wind direction will be greater in course E so there should be more passing lanes.

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                              • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                @Snowy said in Americas Cup:

                                @Bovidae said in Americas Cup:

                                A different course today, so wind conditions are also different.

                                A NE with about 14 knots was about the same as race two yesterday, although they did adjust the course for the second race.

                                The commentators were saying that the changes in wind direction will be greater in course E so there should be more passing lanes.

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                                @Bovidae said in Americas Cup:

                                The commentators were saying that the changes in wind direction will be greater in course E so there should be more passing lanes.

                                Makes sense. It's more in the lee of Waiheke with a NE. Actually all of the courses except A have significant "swirl" and land mass effect. It does make it more of a sailing skill test than a drag race which is good.

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                                  Seems to be a bit of disagreement about how course E will play out. I'm going with the sailors rather than Murray.

                                  Murray: “It’s a good piece of water – a big expansive piece of water, the sea state is consistent, no bends in the winds,” he said.
                                  Murray said the Island is 2-3 miles to the eastern end of the course, and shouldn’t play much of a role.

                                  Bruni:
                                  Francesco Bruni, the helmsman of yesterday’s two-race winner Luna Rossa had thought Course E might be shiftier, and less predicatable, with wind coming over and around Waiheke Island to the east.
                                  “I expect more shifts, maybe some lead changes,” said Bruni after Saturday’s racing .

                                  Ainslie:
                                  “The wind is coming again in a northeasterly direction and there will be a few wind shifts in there. So it will be interesting.”

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                                    Luna Rossa kicking ass, 3-0, killed Ineos at the start and never gave them a shot.

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                                      Team UK needs to win the start but Spithill is so good at dictating play.

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                                        That was spectacular at the start when Team UK nearly lost it.

                                        Luna Rossa leads from start to finish. 4-0 in the race to 7.

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                                        • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                          Team UK needs to win the start but Spithill is so good at dictating play.

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                                          @Bovidae said in Americas Cup:

                                          Team UK needs to win the start but Spithill is so good at dictating play.

                                          yeah, it really is becoming a win the start = win the race situation as the teams are making less outright mistakes than earlier so one in front you can dictate things

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