Tuivasa-Sheck
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Rugby: All Blacks' surprise plan for Warriors star Roger Tuivasa-Sheck, who he'll play for (and who will pay)
Roger Tuivasa-Sheck could make his rugby union revival earlier than touted by turning out for Auckland in this year's Mitre 10 Cup provincial season, before joining the Blues in 2022.
There may also be a positional switch on the cards, with the All Blacks said to be privately hopeful Tuivasa-Sheck can progress into a quality midfield option.
Warriors captain and fullback Tuivasa-Sheck will complete this year's NRL season but he is then expected to skip the chance for a swansong with the Kiwis at the Rugby League World Cup, scheduled for October 23 to November 27 in England, in favour of fast tracking his return to the XV-man code he played through high school.
In something of a surprise move, however, the All Blacks are thought to have a desire to develop Tuivasa-Sheck into a midfield option as New Zealand's outside back stocks overflow with talent, while there is a comparative shortage of established midfielders.
Despite interest from the Highlanders and Chiefs, Tuivasa-Sheck is expected to this week complete a two-year agreement to join the Blues from 2022, with terms believed to have been reached.
Tuivasa-Sheck's deal with the Blues will include a significant third-party arrangement that sits outside the New Zealand Super Rugby salary cap.
While managing director Peter Thompson declined to comment when contacted by the Herald, Barfoot and Thompson are thought to be the leading sponsor offering to stump up for Tuivasa-Sheck's third-party payments, which could require a six-figure annual sum.
Beauden Barrett negotiated a similar arrangement when he switched from the Hurricanes to the Blues last year – his third-party deal worth $200,000 to $250,000 per-year which is still paid while he is on sabbatical in Japan this season.
@Tim colour me pessimistic, but I really struggle to see a league player coming over quite late into his career, being able to adjust to the midfield in both attack and defence in union, especially considering he only plays fullback in league doesn't he?
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@Tim colour me pessimistic, but I really struggle to see a league player coming over quite late into his career, being able to adjust to the midfield in both attack and defence in union, especially considering he only plays fullback in league doesn't he?
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@Tim colour me pessimistic, but I really struggle to see a league player coming over quite late into his career, being able to adjust to the midfield in both attack and defence in union, especially considering he only plays fullback in league doesn't he?
@Bones said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
@Tim colour me pessimistic, but I really struggle to see a league player coming over quite late into his career, being able to adjust to the midfield in both attack and defence in union, especially considering he only plays fullback in league doesn't he?
I hope he isn't going to be given a big money contract, frankly he should need to show that he deserves one
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@Tim colour me pessimistic, but I really struggle to see a league player coming over quite late into his career, being able to adjust to the midfield in both attack and defence in union, especially considering he only plays fullback in league doesn't he?
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Interesting - his NZ Schools coach said he thought midfield might be his spot.
Andrew Douglas coached the New Zealand secondary schools rugby team 10 years ago that Tuivasa-Sheck was a part of. He's also previously mentored the St Peter's Cambridge 1st XV, and is in the United States heading Old Glory DC in Major League Rugby. "I could actually see him at centre long term. Defensively reads really well… his ability to straighten up on attack and put others in space could be a real asset there too," Douglas says -
he'll be a winger. are there even rules that pertain to the winger?
also, the AB selectors have proven over the past couple of years that they don't give a fuck about the positioning of the guy selected at 14, so he doesn't even have to learn that.
He's already better under the high ball than any of the other options, is quicker, stronger, and has better feet than them as well.
@mariner4life said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
He's already better under the high ball than any of the other options, is quicker, stronger, and has better feet than them as well.
Not sure of the relevance of your foot fetish, but thanks for the info
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Interesting - his NZ Schools coach said he thought midfield might be his spot.
Andrew Douglas coached the New Zealand secondary schools rugby team 10 years ago that Tuivasa-Sheck was a part of. He's also previously mentored the St Peter's Cambridge 1st XV, and is in the United States heading Old Glory DC in Major League Rugby. "I could actually see him at centre long term. Defensively reads really well… his ability to straighten up on attack and put others in space could be a real asset there too," Douglas says@KiwiMurph said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
Interesting - his NZ Schools coach said he thought midfield might be his spot.
Andrew Douglas coached the New Zealand secondary schools rugby team 10 years ago that Tuivasa-Sheck was a part of. He's also previously mentored the St Peter's Cambridge 1st XV, and is in the United States heading Old Glory DC in Major League Rugby. "I could actually see him at centre long term. Defensively reads really well… his ability to straighten up on attack and put others in space could be a real asset there too," Douglas saysI would love to see him play 5/8 for the Warriors. I think he’s a natural ball player, but because of his speed has played in the outside backs. He’s a pretty unique talent. I’m thinking a cross between Milner-Skudder and Tuitupo
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@Chris-B forget it - no way he's going to Ta$man
@Paekakboyz said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
@Chris-B forget it - no way he's going to Ta$man
Seems not.
Our significant third party deals are a free scoop of chips at the Victory Square chippie!
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@Paekakboyz said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
@Chris-B forget it - no way he's going to Ta$man
Seems not.
Our significant third party deals are a free scoop of chips at the Victory Square chippie!
@Chris-B how could you say no to that! Well, a shit-ton of cash probably helps!
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@Paekakboyz said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
@Chris-B forget it - no way he's going to Ta$man
Seems not.
Our significant third party deals are a free scoop of chips at the Victory Square chippie!
@Chris-B so generally targeting more front rowers then?
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@Tim colour me pessimistic, but I really struggle to see a league player coming over quite late into his career, being able to adjust to the midfield in both attack and defence in union, especially considering he only plays fullback in league doesn't he?
@Bones said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
@Tim colour me pessimistic, but I really struggle to see a league player coming over quite late into his career, being able to adjust to the midfield in both attack and defence in union, especially considering he only plays fullback in league doesn't he?
Yep. That has Foster written all over it. Surprised that he isn't being touted as a prop.
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I see Rattue has said Warriors should basically can him, he has betrayed them.
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I see Rattue has said Warriors should basically can him, he has betrayed them.
@taniwharugby said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
I see Rattue has said Warriors should basically can him, he has betrayed them.
Got a link ? I love Rattues articles. He's the Don Bradman of sportswriters.
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@taniwharugby said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
I see Rattue has said Warriors should basically can him, he has betrayed them.
Got a link ? I love Rattues articles. He's the Don Bradman of sportswriters.
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@MN5 nah was in an actual newspaper at work, am sure you could find it if you really wanted to read it.
@taniwharugby said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
@MN5 nah was in an actual newspaper at work, am sure you could find it if you really wanted to read it.
well I'm certainly not paying for it, my heritage wouldn't allow that.
Sigh, guess I'll go and rummage through the bins out front of the dairy.
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I see Rattue has said Warriors should basically can him, he has betrayed them.
@taniwharugby said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
I see Rattue has said Warriors should basically can him, he has betrayed them.
Saw that headline yesterday, and didn’t go anywhere near it!
Betrayed them, WTF is that fluffybunny serious?
In that case players and clubs all betray each other all the freaking time.
Serving that shit up is a new low for the Herald Tabloid IMO.
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@taniwharugby said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
I see Rattue has said Warriors should basically can him, he has betrayed them.
Saw that headline yesterday, and didn’t go anywhere near it!
Betrayed them, WTF is that fluffybunny serious?
In that case players and clubs all betray each other all the freaking time.
Serving that shit up is a new low for the Herald Tabloid IMO.
@Gunner said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
@taniwharugby said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
I see Rattue has said Warriors should basically can him, he has betrayed them.
Saw that headline yesterday, and didn’t go anywhere near it!
Betrayed them, WTF is that fluffybunny serious?
In that case players and clubs all betray each other all the freaking time.
Serving that shit up is a new low for the Herald Tabloid IMO.
He’s being crucified on FB for the article and rightly so. It’s sad we live in a world where he has a soapbox to preach his inflammatory shit
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far from me to defend the publication or the writer but...
there is a pervading opinion throughout the NRL that a player or a coach is entirely incapable of playing for a team if he has signed anywhere else for the next season.
My horribly stereotypical take is that the vast majprity of league fans are unprofessional dimwits who project their thoughts on to thie players "if i had lined up another job i would do fuck all until i left. prob just take heaps of sickies" and thus to them a player will just quit and not try and win.
you watch this year when contracts for next year start being signed, there will be calls for the player to go immediately.
