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@MN5 if he ever had any job opportunities outside of the Ferald I'd love to throw this back at him if he wrote for Stuff or Newshub. Oh no, the betrayal!
@Paekakboyz said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
@MN5 if he ever had any job opportunities outside of the Ferald I'd love to throw this back at him if he wrote for Stuff or Newshub. Oh no, the betrayal!
So I'm assuming Rattue hates any Super player who has played for more than one franchise ?
Oh silly me, he just hates Rugby full stop, that's right.
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far from me to defend the publication or the writer but...
there is a pervading opinion throughout the NRL that a player or a coach is entirely incapable of playing for a team if he has signed anywhere else for the next season.
My horribly stereotypical take is that the vast majprity of league fans are unprofessional dimwits who project their thoughts on to thie players "if i had lined up another job i would do fuck all until i left. prob just take heaps of sickies" and thus to them a player will just quit and not try and win.
you watch this year when contracts for next year start being signed, there will be calls for the player to go immediately.
@mariner4life said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
far from me to defend the publication or the writer but...
there is a pervading opinion throughout the NRL that a player or a coach is entirely incapable of playing for a team if he has signed anywhere else for the next season.
My horribly stereotypical take is that the vast majprity of league fans are unprofessional dimwits who project their thoughts on to thie players "if i had lined up another job i would do fuck all until i left. prob just take heaps of sickies" and thus to them a player will just quit and not try and win.
you watch this year when contracts for next year start being signed, there will be calls for the player to go immediately.
Or the media helps drive this fear so when they reach for their daily telegraph or courier they go insane. To be honest I would say there is a healthy dose of both. Clearly though this was just Rattue/Reason clickbait that elicited the exact response the paper was after.
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I'm quietly excited by this news. And another high profile signing for the Blues, backroom changes seem to be working.
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@sparky said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
He's signed:
https://www.allblacks.com/news/new-zealand-rugby-confirms-two-year-deal-with-roger-tuivasa-sheck
the transition is harder than folk think. And it takes a while.
Seems quite a few high end league players get bored with their sport - just a passing observation.
got to be better than Benji
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@sparky said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
He's signed:
https://www.allblacks.com/news/new-zealand-rugby-confirms-two-year-deal-with-roger-tuivasa-sheck
the transition is harder than folk think. And it takes a while.
Seems quite a few high end league players get bored with their sport - just a passing observation.
got to be better than Benji
@nzzp said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
@sparky said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
He's signed:
https://www.allblacks.com/news/new-zealand-rugby-confirms-two-year-deal-with-roger-tuivasa-sheck
the transition is harder than folk think. And it takes a while.
Seems quite a few high end league players get bored with their sport - just a passing observation.
got to be better than Benji
Yeah I can't see him making the ABs. Two years is just not long enough. He should have gone for Samoa
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@nzzp said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
@sparky said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
He's signed:
https://www.allblacks.com/news/new-zealand-rugby-confirms-two-year-deal-with-roger-tuivasa-sheck
the transition is harder than folk think. And it takes a while.
Seems quite a few high end league players get bored with their sport - just a passing observation.
got to be better than Benji
Yeah I can't see him making the ABs. Two years is just not long enough. He should have gone for Samoa
@Machpants said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
@nzzp said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
@sparky said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
He's signed:
https://www.allblacks.com/news/new-zealand-rugby-confirms-two-year-deal-with-roger-tuivasa-sheck
the transition is harder than folk think. And it takes a while.
Seems quite a few high end league players get bored with their sport - just a passing observation.
got to be better than Benji
Yeah I can't see him making the ABs. Two years is just not long enough. He should have gone for Samoa
has he declared for NZ though? he could play for Samoa if he wanted couldn't he?
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@Machpants said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
@nzzp said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
@sparky said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
He's signed:
https://www.allblacks.com/news/new-zealand-rugby-confirms-two-year-deal-with-roger-tuivasa-sheck
the transition is harder than folk think. And it takes a while.
Seems quite a few high end league players get bored with their sport - just a passing observation.
got to be better than Benji
Yeah I can't see him making the ABs. Two years is just not long enough. He should have gone for Samoa
has he declared for NZ though? he could play for Samoa if he wanted couldn't he?
@nzzp said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
@Machpants said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
@nzzp said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
@sparky said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
He's signed:
https://www.allblacks.com/news/new-zealand-rugby-confirms-two-year-deal-with-roger-tuivasa-sheck
the transition is harder than folk think. And it takes a while.
Seems quite a few high end league players get bored with their sport - just a passing observation.
got to be better than Benji
Yeah I can't see him making the ABs. Two years is just not long enough. He should have gone for Samoa
has he declared for NZ though? he could play for Samoa if he wanted couldn't he?
Yes and no. He could but then would lose his blues contract unless he got dispensation
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@nzzp said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
@Machpants said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
@nzzp said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
@sparky said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
He's signed:
https://www.allblacks.com/news/new-zealand-rugby-confirms-two-year-deal-with-roger-tuivasa-sheck
the transition is harder than folk think. And it takes a while.
Seems quite a few high end league players get bored with their sport - just a passing observation.
got to be better than Benji
Yeah I can't see him making the ABs. Two years is just not long enough. He should have gone for Samoa
has he declared for NZ though? he could play for Samoa if he wanted couldn't he?
Yes and no. He could but then would lose his blues contract unless he got dispensation
@Machpants said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
@nzzp said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
@Machpants said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
@nzzp said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
@sparky said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
He's signed:
https://www.allblacks.com/news/new-zealand-rugby-confirms-two-year-deal-with-roger-tuivasa-sheck
the transition is harder than folk think. And it takes a while.
Seems quite a few high end league players get bored with their sport - just a passing observation.
got to be better than Benji
Yeah I can't see him making the ABs. Two years is just not long enough. He should have gone for Samoa
has he declared for NZ though? he could play for Samoa if he wanted couldn't he?
Yes and no. He could but then would lose his blues contract unless he got dispensation
oof, that's tough
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@Machpants said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
@nzzp said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
@Machpants said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
@nzzp said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
@sparky said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
He's signed:
https://www.allblacks.com/news/new-zealand-rugby-confirms-two-year-deal-with-roger-tuivasa-sheck
the transition is harder than folk think. And it takes a while.
Seems quite a few high end league players get bored with their sport - just a passing observation.
got to be better than Benji
Yeah I can't see him making the ABs. Two years is just not long enough. He should have gone for Samoa
has he declared for NZ though? he could play for Samoa if he wanted couldn't he?
Yes and no. He could but then would lose his blues contract unless he got dispensation
oof, that's tough
@nzzp said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
@Machpants said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
@nzzp said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
@Machpants said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
@nzzp said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
@sparky said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
He's signed:
https://www.allblacks.com/news/new-zealand-rugby-confirms-two-year-deal-with-roger-tuivasa-sheck
the transition is harder than folk think. And it takes a while.
Seems quite a few high end league players get bored with their sport - just a passing observation.
got to be better than Benji
Yeah I can't see him making the ABs. Two years is just not long enough. He should have gone for Samoa
has he declared for NZ though? he could play for Samoa if he wanted couldn't he?
Yes and no. He could but then would lose his blues contract unless he got dispensation
oof, that's tough
Yeah I think each SR team is allowed 2 not available for ABs. After that they need dispensation from NZR.
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@Machpants said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
@nzzp said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
@sparky said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
He's signed:
https://www.allblacks.com/news/new-zealand-rugby-confirms-two-year-deal-with-roger-tuivasa-sheck
the transition is harder than folk think. And it takes a while.
Seems quite a few high end league players get bored with their sport - just a passing observation.
got to be better than Benji
Yeah I can't see him making the ABs. Two years is just not long enough. He should have gone for Samoa
has he declared for NZ though? he could play for Samoa if he wanted couldn't he?
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Laumape switched from league and made his debut for the Canes in 2016. In 2017 he started for the ABs against the Lions
Not shitting on Laumape but RTS is a far more talented player.
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@nzzp I think his 'ive always dreamed of being an AB' leans that way, so while he has dual eligibility I think there won't be issues
Some gullible folk on NZH FB page
@taniwharugby that page is fucking awesome. The dude who runs it, Alex, is a good dude. Shitposts but also has insight in the men's and women's game. Also a good conversation starter.
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@nzzp said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
@sparky said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
He's signed:
https://www.allblacks.com/news/new-zealand-rugby-confirms-two-year-deal-with-roger-tuivasa-sheck
the transition is harder than folk think. And it takes a while.
Seems quite a few high end league players get bored with their sport - just a passing observation.
got to be better than Benji
Yeah I can't see him making the ABs. Two years is just not long enough. He should have gone for Samoa
@Machpants said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
@nzzp said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
@sparky said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
He's signed:
https://www.allblacks.com/news/new-zealand-rugby-confirms-two-year-deal-with-roger-tuivasa-sheck
the transition is harder than folk think. And it takes a while.
Seems quite a few high end league players get bored with their sport - just a passing observation.
got to be better than Benji
Yeah I can't see him making the ABs. Two years is just not long enough. He should have gone for Samoa
I can see him making an AB squad. The coaches will probably want to have a look at him in the environment.
@nzzp I still think with Benji it was a case of what might’ve been. I don’t know all the goings on internally and how he got on with coaches etc, but he was shuffled around position wise a bit. There was a game in South Africa that he started and was excellent. The next week he didn’t start! Not saying he would’ve made the ABs, but I think his rugby experience didn’t really give him a chance to excel.
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His ABs chances are pretty slim - A. His age and B. The time scale - 2 years to convert to Union? At least SBW had 2 years in France RU before he even came to NZ, even then he was not au fait with the rules at game speed
@Machpants said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
At least SBW had 2 years in France RU before he even came to NZ, even then he was not au fait with the rules at game speed
I'd argue in his entire AB career, he never really was
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@ACT-Crusader said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
@Machpants said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
@ACT-Crusader said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
@mariner4life said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
@Chris-B you heard it here first Ferners, Jordan is the next Christian Cullen
Cullen can’t hit a cricket ball, so Jordan is already better at cricket.
Not a shade on him on a rugby field tho
Cullen was pretty raw when he started out even though he had great speed and that sneaky strength. But he did run rings around some very amateurish defences back in the day. Became a phenomenal player.
Still early days for Will.
Cullen was certainly lucky that seven Scots legends in a row all forgot how to tackle.
He was pretty ordinary really, give me Ben Blair or Leon MacDonald anyday.
One of my favourite Tests ever. Jocks played out of their skin that day.
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@Tim colour me pessimistic, but I really struggle to see a league player coming over quite late into his career, being able to adjust to the midfield in both attack and defence in union, especially considering he only plays fullback in league doesn't he?
@Bones said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
@Tim colour me pessimistic, but I really struggle to see a league player coming over quite late into his career, being able to adjust to the midfield in both attack and defence in union, especially considering he only plays fullback in league doesn't he?
Worked for Henry Paul....
I don't think NZ Rugby will be as dumb as England though.
