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@Machpants said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
@nzzp said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
@sparky said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
He's signed:
https://www.allblacks.com/news/new-zealand-rugby-confirms-two-year-deal-with-roger-tuivasa-sheck
the transition is harder than folk think. And it takes a while.
Seems quite a few high end league players get bored with their sport - just a passing observation.
got to be better than Benji
Yeah I can't see him making the ABs. Two years is just not long enough. He should have gone for Samoa
has he declared for NZ though? he could play for Samoa if he wanted couldn't he?
@nzzp said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
@Machpants said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
@nzzp said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
@sparky said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
He's signed:
https://www.allblacks.com/news/new-zealand-rugby-confirms-two-year-deal-with-roger-tuivasa-sheck
the transition is harder than folk think. And it takes a while.
Seems quite a few high end league players get bored with their sport - just a passing observation.
got to be better than Benji
Yeah I can't see him making the ABs. Two years is just not long enough. He should have gone for Samoa
has he declared for NZ though? he could play for Samoa if he wanted couldn't he?
Yes and no. He could but then would lose his blues contract unless he got dispensation
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@nzzp said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
@Machpants said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
@nzzp said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
@sparky said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
He's signed:
https://www.allblacks.com/news/new-zealand-rugby-confirms-two-year-deal-with-roger-tuivasa-sheck
the transition is harder than folk think. And it takes a while.
Seems quite a few high end league players get bored with their sport - just a passing observation.
got to be better than Benji
Yeah I can't see him making the ABs. Two years is just not long enough. He should have gone for Samoa
has he declared for NZ though? he could play for Samoa if he wanted couldn't he?
Yes and no. He could but then would lose his blues contract unless he got dispensation
@Machpants said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
@nzzp said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
@Machpants said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
@nzzp said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
@sparky said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
He's signed:
https://www.allblacks.com/news/new-zealand-rugby-confirms-two-year-deal-with-roger-tuivasa-sheck
the transition is harder than folk think. And it takes a while.
Seems quite a few high end league players get bored with their sport - just a passing observation.
got to be better than Benji
Yeah I can't see him making the ABs. Two years is just not long enough. He should have gone for Samoa
has he declared for NZ though? he could play for Samoa if he wanted couldn't he?
Yes and no. He could but then would lose his blues contract unless he got dispensation
oof, that's tough
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@Machpants said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
@nzzp said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
@Machpants said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
@nzzp said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
@sparky said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
He's signed:
https://www.allblacks.com/news/new-zealand-rugby-confirms-two-year-deal-with-roger-tuivasa-sheck
the transition is harder than folk think. And it takes a while.
Seems quite a few high end league players get bored with their sport - just a passing observation.
got to be better than Benji
Yeah I can't see him making the ABs. Two years is just not long enough. He should have gone for Samoa
has he declared for NZ though? he could play for Samoa if he wanted couldn't he?
Yes and no. He could but then would lose his blues contract unless he got dispensation
oof, that's tough
@nzzp said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
@Machpants said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
@nzzp said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
@Machpants said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
@nzzp said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
@sparky said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
He's signed:
https://www.allblacks.com/news/new-zealand-rugby-confirms-two-year-deal-with-roger-tuivasa-sheck
the transition is harder than folk think. And it takes a while.
Seems quite a few high end league players get bored with their sport - just a passing observation.
got to be better than Benji
Yeah I can't see him making the ABs. Two years is just not long enough. He should have gone for Samoa
has he declared for NZ though? he could play for Samoa if he wanted couldn't he?
Yes and no. He could but then would lose his blues contract unless he got dispensation
oof, that's tough
Yeah I think each SR team is allowed 2 not available for ABs. After that they need dispensation from NZR.
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@Machpants said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
@nzzp said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
@sparky said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
He's signed:
https://www.allblacks.com/news/new-zealand-rugby-confirms-two-year-deal-with-roger-tuivasa-sheck
the transition is harder than folk think. And it takes a while.
Seems quite a few high end league players get bored with their sport - just a passing observation.
got to be better than Benji
Yeah I can't see him making the ABs. Two years is just not long enough. He should have gone for Samoa
has he declared for NZ though? he could play for Samoa if he wanted couldn't he?
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Laumape switched from league and made his debut for the Canes in 2016. In 2017 he started for the ABs against the Lions
Not shitting on Laumape but RTS is a far more talented player.
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@nzzp I think his 'ive always dreamed of being an AB' leans that way, so while he has dual eligibility I think there won't be issues
Some gullible folk on NZH FB page
@taniwharugby that page is fucking awesome. The dude who runs it, Alex, is a good dude. Shitposts but also has insight in the men's and women's game. Also a good conversation starter.
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@nzzp said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
@sparky said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
He's signed:
https://www.allblacks.com/news/new-zealand-rugby-confirms-two-year-deal-with-roger-tuivasa-sheck
the transition is harder than folk think. And it takes a while.
Seems quite a few high end league players get bored with their sport - just a passing observation.
got to be better than Benji
Yeah I can't see him making the ABs. Two years is just not long enough. He should have gone for Samoa
@Machpants said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
@nzzp said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
@sparky said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
He's signed:
https://www.allblacks.com/news/new-zealand-rugby-confirms-two-year-deal-with-roger-tuivasa-sheck
the transition is harder than folk think. And it takes a while.
Seems quite a few high end league players get bored with their sport - just a passing observation.
got to be better than Benji
Yeah I can't see him making the ABs. Two years is just not long enough. He should have gone for Samoa
I can see him making an AB squad. The coaches will probably want to have a look at him in the environment.
@nzzp I still think with Benji it was a case of what might’ve been. I don’t know all the goings on internally and how he got on with coaches etc, but he was shuffled around position wise a bit. There was a game in South Africa that he started and was excellent. The next week he didn’t start! Not saying he would’ve made the ABs, but I think his rugby experience didn’t really give him a chance to excel.
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His ABs chances are pretty slim - A. His age and B. The time scale - 2 years to convert to Union? At least SBW had 2 years in France RU before he even came to NZ, even then he was not au fait with the rules at game speed
@Machpants said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
At least SBW had 2 years in France RU before he even came to NZ, even then he was not au fait with the rules at game speed
I'd argue in his entire AB career, he never really was
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@ACT-Crusader said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
@Machpants said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
@ACT-Crusader said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
@mariner4life said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
@Chris-B you heard it here first Ferners, Jordan is the next Christian Cullen
Cullen can’t hit a cricket ball, so Jordan is already better at cricket.
Not a shade on him on a rugby field tho
Cullen was pretty raw when he started out even though he had great speed and that sneaky strength. But he did run rings around some very amateurish defences back in the day. Became a phenomenal player.
Still early days for Will.
Cullen was certainly lucky that seven Scots legends in a row all forgot how to tackle.
He was pretty ordinary really, give me Ben Blair or Leon MacDonald anyday.
One of my favourite Tests ever. Jocks played out of their skin that day.
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@Tim colour me pessimistic, but I really struggle to see a league player coming over quite late into his career, being able to adjust to the midfield in both attack and defence in union, especially considering he only plays fullback in league doesn't he?
@Bones said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
@Tim colour me pessimistic, but I really struggle to see a league player coming over quite late into his career, being able to adjust to the midfield in both attack and defence in union, especially considering he only plays fullback in league doesn't he?
Worked for Henry Paul....
I don't think NZ Rugby will be as dumb as England though.
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I'm quietly excited by this news. And another high profile signing for the Blues, backroom changes seem to be working.
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@Kirwan said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
I'm quietly excited by this news. And another high profile signing for the Blues, backroom changes seem to be working.
BluesAuckland have never had an issue with these - Kirwan got Benji, Umaga got SBW etc.@rotated said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
@Kirwan said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
I'm quietly excited by this news. And another high profile signing for the Blues, backroom changes seem to be working.
BluesAuckland have never had an issue with these - Kirwan got Benji, Umaga got SBW etc.They were the exceptions, McDonald has a great list of talent moving to the Blues.
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@rotated said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
@Kirwan said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
I'm quietly excited by this news. And another high profile signing for the Blues, backroom changes seem to be working.
BluesAuckland have never had an issue with these - Kirwan got Benji, Umaga got SBW etc.They were the exceptions, McDonald has a great list of talent moving to the Blues.
@Kirwan said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
@rotated said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
@Kirwan said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
I'm quietly excited by this news. And another high profile signing for the Blues, backroom changes seem to be working.
BluesAuckland have never had an issue with these - Kirwan got Benji, Umaga got SBW etc.They were the exceptions, McDonald has a great list of talent moving to the Blues.
We have to give him a nod for keeping the culture from repelling players otherwise based in Auckland from playing for the Blues as was the case with Nucifora, Lam and Kirwan.
It's not surprising a married father of two who just played two seasons away from his kids in Auckland due to COVID isn't going to play for the Highlanders.
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@Kirwan said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
@rotated said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
@Kirwan said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
I'm quietly excited by this news. And another high profile signing for the Blues, backroom changes seem to be working.
BluesAuckland have never had an issue with these - Kirwan got Benji, Umaga got SBW etc.They were the exceptions, McDonald has a great list of talent moving to the Blues.
We have to give him a nod for keeping the culture from repelling players otherwise based in Auckland from playing for the Blues as was the case with Nucifora, Lam and Kirwan.
It's not surprising a married father of two who just played two seasons away from his kids in Auckland due to COVID isn't going to play for the Highlanders.
@rotated said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
@Kirwan said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
@rotated said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
@Kirwan said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
I'm quietly excited by this news. And another high profile signing for the Blues, backroom changes seem to be working.
BluesAuckland have never had an issue with these - Kirwan got Benji, Umaga got SBW etc.They were the exceptions, McDonald has a great list of talent moving to the Blues.
We have to give him a nod for keeping the culture from repelling players otherwise based in Auckland from playing for the Blues as was the case with Nucifora, Lam and Kirwan.
It's not surprising a married father of two who just played two seasons away from his kids in Auckland due to COVID isn't going to play for the Highlanders.
And it’s the fucking highlanders. Who the fuck would want to go there. Absolutely no appeal
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@Kirwan said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
@rotated said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
@Kirwan said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
I'm quietly excited by this news. And another high profile signing for the Blues, backroom changes seem to be working.
BluesAuckland have never had an issue with these - Kirwan got Benji, Umaga got SBW etc.They were the exceptions, McDonald has a great list of talent moving to the Blues.
We have to give him a nod for keeping the culture from repelling players otherwise based in Auckland from playing for the Blues as was the case with Nucifora, Lam and Kirwan.
It's not surprising a married father of two who just played two seasons away from his kids in Auckland due to COVID isn't going to play for the Highlanders.
@rotated said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
@Kirwan said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
@rotated said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
@Kirwan said in Tuivasa-Sheck:
I'm quietly excited by this news. And another high profile signing for the Blues, backroom changes seem to be working.
BluesAuckland have never had an issue with these - Kirwan got Benji, Umaga got SBW etc.They were the exceptions, McDonald has a great list of talent moving to the Blues.
We have to give him a nod for keeping the culture from repelling players otherwise based in Auckland from playing for the Blues as was the case with Nucifora, Lam and Kirwan.
It's not surprising a married father of two who just played two seasons away from his kids in Auckland due to COVID isn't going to play for the Highlanders.
Damn, I was all set to rent my Dunedin house* to him.
*previously owned by Ben Smith.
