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  • StargazerS Stargazer

    @Bovidae You think they'll start Trask ahead of Gatland?

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    @Stargazer said in Chiefs 2021:

    @Bovidae You think they'll start Trask ahead of Gatland?

    I hope they will but guess they won't. It will be like the Holwell days of the Canes with a Corolla leading the V8s around the track.

    Hope also that ENS shows some early goods. It is all there, he just needs to turn the corner.

    2019 Nankivell would get the 12 jersey no problems. Not so sure at the moment and I wouldn't be surprised to see an ALB/Wainui partnership making room for Stevenson on the wing.

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      On form through the Mitre 10 Cup, Tupaea at 12, ALB at 13 looks good to me, with Lowe and Wainui/Stevenson on the wings.

      If they dont start Trask/Dmac at 10/15 or 15/10, I’ll be very surprised.

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      • gt12G gt12

        On form through the Mitre 10 Cup, Tupaea at 12, ALB at 13 looks good to me, with Lowe and Wainui/Stevenson on the wings.

        If they dont start Trask/Dmac at 10/15 or 15/10, I’ll be very surprised.

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        @gt12 said in Chiefs 2021:

        On form through the Mitre 10 Cup, Tupaea at 12, ALB at 13 looks good to me

        I'd be happy with that combo. I went for Nankivell based on who I think McMillan and co will pick, not my preference. But we don't really know who they favour yet.

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          @Bovidae

          Good point.

          I guess my underlying point is that when we got Rennie, he brought with him some fantastic pieces.

          In McMillan’s case, they to be a bit less than fantastic.

          I’m probably being unfair, but I’m pretty down on the Chiefs at the moment.

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          @gt12 said in Chiefs 2021:

          @Bovidae

          Good point.

          I guess my underlying point is that when we got Rennie, he brought with him some fantastic pieces.

          In McMillan’s case, they to be a bit less than fantastic.

          I’m probably being unfair, but I’m pretty down on the Chiefs at the moment.

          On the bright side: at the very least, McMillan can’t do any worse than Gatland.

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            Yeah I'd prefer Trask at fullback after how well he went in NPC. DMac would be a better first five than him.

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            • CrucialC Crucial

              @Stargazer said in Chiefs 2021:

              @Bovidae You think they'll start Trask ahead of Gatland?

              I hope they will but guess they won't. It will be like the Holwell days of the Canes with a Corolla leading the V8s around the track.

              Hope also that ENS shows some early goods. It is all there, he just needs to turn the corner.

              2019 Nankivell would get the 12 jersey no problems. Not so sure at the moment and I wouldn't be surprised to see an ALB/Wainui partnership making room for Stevenson on the wing.

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              @Crucial said in Chiefs 2021:

              I hope they will but guess they won't. It will be like the Holwell days of the Canes with a Corolla leading the V8s around the track.

              That can work, provided the Corolla knows that it is one.

              The ABs backline ran fine with Grant Fox at the helm, and a worse running first-five it would be hard to find. He knew to get it out quickly and let the outside backs do all the running.

              The Hurricanes made the final with Holwell, let us not forget.

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                @Crucial said in Chiefs 2021:

                I hope they will but guess they won't. It will be like the Holwell days of the Canes with a Corolla leading the V8s around the track.

                That can work, provided the Corolla knows that it is one.

                The ABs backline ran fine with Grant Fox at the helm, and a worse running first-five it would be hard to find. He knew to get it out quickly and let the outside backs do all the running.

                The Hurricanes made the final with Holwell, let us not forget.

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                @Chester-Draws said in Chiefs 2021:

                @Crucial said in Chiefs 2021:

                I hope they will but guess they won't. It will be like the Holwell days of the Canes with a Corolla leading the V8s around the track.

                That can work, provided the Corolla knows that it is one.

                The ABs backline ran fine with Grant Fox at the helm, and a worse running first-five it would be hard to find. He knew to get it out quickly and let the outside backs do all the running.

                The Hurricanes made the final with Holwell, let us not forget.

                You are comparing rugby from 30 years ago with today. Look at the space afforded to backlines of those days and having deep backs running onto the ball worked fine. Now you get shut down behind the gain line.
                I am all for a 10 that releases the ball quickly when you have a roll on but from static play you now need a ten that offers threats and can put a midfielder into a half gap to get things moving forward.
                Holwell wasn't actually bad he just could have been much better. So many missed opportunities for the Canes backs in those days.

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                • StargazerS Stargazer

                  I'd like to see Lowe get game time in the 13 jersey, not just the wing.

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                  @Stargazer I thought I was reading a Hurricanes thread for a sec. 😜

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                    Article about big Brodie. Behind a paywall, but readable if you know how. 😉

                    https://www.thexv.rugby/2021/02/08/final-push/

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                      The same article about Brodie Retallick, but no longer behind a pay-wall:

                      https://www.rugbypass.com/news/the-last-third-of-my-career-all-blacks-star-brodie-retallick-reveals-surprise-retirement-plan/

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                      • StargazerS Stargazer

                        The same article about Brodie Retallick, but no longer behind a pay-wall:

                        https://www.rugbypass.com/news/the-last-third-of-my-career-all-blacks-star-brodie-retallick-reveals-surprise-retirement-plan/

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                        @Stargazer nah he's a lock surely he can go til 2027.

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                          https://www.rugbypass.com/news/introducing-the-chiefs-latest-no-10-prodigy-that-spent-five-years-playing-first-xv-rugby/

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                            RugbyPass need some quality control. That is a photo of Tupaea for the NZ U20s.

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                            • BovidaeB Bovidae

                              RugbyPass need some quality control. That is a photo of Tupaea for the NZ U20s.

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                              @Bovidae LOL. Grammatical error in the headline too.

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                                I really hope he goes well.

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                                • YeetyaahY Yeetyaah

                                  I really hope he goes well.

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                                  @Yeetyaah said in Chiefs 2021:

                                  I really hope he goes well.

                                  I'm honestly hoping that every young first five goes well at the moment - if we happen to turn up the future at the chiefs, it would be very sweet.

                                  Plus he's (apparently) related to Bruce, so he should really turn out for TAS too, in which case I'll love him forever regardless.

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                                    https://www.gettyimages.co.nz/photos/chiefs-rugby-2021?events=775600529&family=editorial&phrase=Chiefs rugby 2021&sort=best

                                    Headshots

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                                      Based on these Jona Mataiciwa is also part of the extended squad.

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                                        • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                          Based on these Jona Mataiciwa is also part of the extended squad.

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                                          @Bovidae what team does he play for?

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