T20 Internationals. Nz v Aus
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Never in the history of the game will the Aussies come out meekly when 2 nil down in a best of 5. That said, I thought our bowlers were all over the place. Especially noticeable when you saw the efficient line and length of the black/ green (?) team in the second dig.
Our fielding and throwing was shit too - slight worry. Chasing 200 odd with no crowd? yeah nah.
Oh well, t20 ain't never a game to dwell on results or navel gaze too deeply. Next game is massive but I'm ready for Oz to win the next 2, it's just what the fluffybunnies seem to do to us!
Ps. I had a depressing thought for the future in one moment - 5 years on someone opines "did we ruin Jamieson by playing him in too many t20s too early?"
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@snowy said in T20 Internationals. Nz v Aus:
@nzzp said in T20 Internationals. Nz v Aus:
@snowy said in T20 Internationals. Nz v Aus:
The tweaks that we could make (if everybody is healthy) could make us much better though. I'm no Southee hater but he does seem to be better suited to the longer forms, particularly red ball, and should never be given the ball at the end of a white ball match. Lockie might be better, or Milne.
In fairness to Southee, he's been bowling brilliantly in the white ball version recently. Everyone gets stick at teh end of at T20 - but BOult has pulled a few exceptional overs out this series. Swings and roundabouts
Yes he has been OK (brilliant is a stretch), and yes obviously everybody gets hit at the end, but the question was do we have better options to protect the final overs? It has been a problem for a while and Tim has been the go to guy - that hasn't managed it to an acceptable level. IMO of course.
We should be looking to be better, not just accept what we have. If we don't question who we have then we just roll out the same team every time?
First spells of Timmy below:
Chc:
3-0-10-2Dun: Tim Southee
2-0-7-1Wlg
Tim Southee
2-0-9-0@nzzp said in T20 Internationals. Nz v Aus:
@snowy said in T20 Internationals. Nz v Aus:
@nzzp said in T20 Internationals. Nz v Aus:
@snowy said in T20 Internationals. Nz v Aus:
The tweaks that we could make (if everybody is healthy) could make us much better though. I'm no Southee hater but he does seem to be better suited to the longer forms, particularly red ball, and should never be given the ball at the end of a white ball match. Lockie might be better, or Milne.
In fairness to Southee, he's been bowling brilliantly in the white ball version recently. Everyone gets stick at teh end of at T20 - but BOult has pulled a few exceptional overs out this series. Swings and roundabouts
Yes he has been OK (brilliant is a stretch), and yes obviously everybody gets hit at the end, but the question was do we have better options to protect the final overs? It has been a problem for a while and Tim has been the go to guy - that hasn't managed it to an acceptable level. IMO of course.
We should be looking to be better, not just accept what we have. If we don't question who we have then we just roll out the same team every time?
First spells of Timmy below:
Chc:
3-0-10-2Dun: Tim Southee
2-0-7-1Wlg
Tim Southee
2-0-9-0What have you got for the end of his spells was the point?
We know that he is good at the start. I said that.
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@canefan said in T20 Internationals. Nz v Aus:
@snowy Milne is in the squad, might be an opportunity to get him in there
Yeah, I saw that, but he's not much of a batsman is he (not bad from memory, but Chapman is a batsman), so who does he replace?
@Bovidae That's not much help on any front from him. Doesn't bowl and gets a golden duck. Bugger. He would have given Kane some options and we needed them.
I actually don't think we need to change too much personnel wise, it was just chasing a huge total that did us.
The tweaks that we could make (if everybody is healthy) could make us much better though. I'm no Southee hater but he does seem to be better suited to the longer forms, particularly red ball, and should never be given the ball at the end of a white ball match. Lockie might be better, or Milne.
@snowy said in T20 Internationals. Nz v Aus:
I'm no Southee hater but he does seem to be better suited to the longer forms, particularly red ball, and should never be given the ball at the end of a white ball match. Lockie might be better, or Milne.
Sorry - I was responding to this bit of your post, and we've had posts cross in electron land.
Arguing he gets smacked at the end (he did) doesn't mean he shouldn't bowl. He's been very very good in white ball cricket for a while. Honestly, his pace is up as well - mid 130s is better than he used to manage!
But yeah, gets smacked at the end. Some of that is the match situation too ... but I wouldn't be dropping southee on his current form
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We also need to go back a bit further than this series and see who else is worth a go. Just a comparison of whom might be better at each format. All good players.
@snowy said in T20 Internationals. Nz v Aus:
We also need to go back a bit further than this series and see who else is worth a go. Just a comparison of whom might be better at each format. All good players.
Southee's shit
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@snowy said in T20 Internationals. Nz v Aus:
We also need to go back a bit further than this series and see who else is worth a go. Just a comparison of whom might be better at each format. All good players.
Southee's shit
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@snowy said in T20 Internationals. Nz v Aus:
We also need to go back a bit further than this series and see who else is worth a go. Just a comparison of whom might be better at each format. All good players.
Southee's shit
@nzzp said in T20 Internationals. Nz v Aus:
@snowy said in T20 Internationals. Nz v Aus:
We also need to go back a bit further than this series and see who else is worth a go. Just a comparison of whom might be better at each format. All good players.
Southee's shit
Come again?
He’s been pretty bloody good in this series.
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@nzzp said in T20 Internationals. Nz v Aus:
@snowy said in T20 Internationals. Nz v Aus:
We also need to go back a bit further than this series and see who else is worth a go. Just a comparison of whom might be better at each format. All good players.
Southee's shit
Come again?
He’s been pretty bloody good in this series.
@gunner said in T20 Internationals. Nz v Aus:
@nzzp said in T20 Internationals. Nz v Aus:
@snowy said in T20 Internationals. Nz v Aus:
We also need to go back a bit further than this series and see who else is worth a go. Just a comparison of whom might be better at each format. All good players.
Southee's shit
Come again?
He’s been pretty bloody good in this series.
eh, it wa sa throwaway line as he got hit in one over. He's been superb - @snowy and I were arguing about it (I was supporting southee, and feeling poorly about it)
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@gunner said in T20 Internationals. Nz v Aus:
@nzzp said in T20 Internationals. Nz v Aus:
@snowy said in T20 Internationals. Nz v Aus:
We also need to go back a bit further than this series and see who else is worth a go. Just a comparison of whom might be better at each format. All good players.
Southee's shit
Come again?
He’s been pretty bloody good in this series.
eh, it wa sa throwaway line as he got hit in one over. He's been superb - @snowy and I were arguing about it (I was supporting southee, and feeling poorly about it)
@nzzp said in T20 Internationals. Nz v Aus:
@gunner said in T20 Internationals. Nz v Aus:
@nzzp said in T20 Internationals. Nz v Aus:
@snowy said in T20 Internationals. Nz v Aus:
We also need to go back a bit further than this series and see who else is worth a go. Just a comparison of whom might be better at each format. All good players.
Southee's shit
Come again?
He’s been pretty bloody good in this series.
eh, it wa sa throwaway line as he got hit in one over. He's been superb - @snowy and I were arguing about it (I was supporting southee, and feeling poorly about it)
Sorry as you were. Didn’t ‘read the room’ very well.
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@nzzp said in T20 Internationals. Nz v Aus:
@gunner said in T20 Internationals. Nz v Aus:
@nzzp said in T20 Internationals. Nz v Aus:
@snowy said in T20 Internationals. Nz v Aus:
We also need to go back a bit further than this series and see who else is worth a go. Just a comparison of whom might be better at each format. All good players.
Southee's shit
Come again?
He’s been pretty bloody good in this series.
eh, it wa sa throwaway line as he got hit in one over. He's been superb - @snowy and I were arguing about it (I was supporting southee, and feeling poorly about it)
Sorry as you were. Didn’t ‘read the room’ very well.
@gunner said in T20 Internationals. Nz v Aus:
@nzzp said in T20 Internationals. Nz v Aus:
@gunner said in T20 Internationals. Nz v Aus:
@nzzp said in T20 Internationals. Nz v Aus:
@snowy said in T20 Internationals. Nz v Aus:
We also need to go back a bit further than this series and see who else is worth a go. Just a comparison of whom might be better at each format. All good players.
Southee's shit
Come again?
He’s been pretty bloody good in this series.
eh, it wa sa throwaway line as he got hit in one over. He's been superb - @snowy and I were arguing about it (I was supporting southee, and feeling poorly about it)
Sorry as you were. Didn’t ‘read the room’ very well.
wait, you didn't follow the thread closely? FFS man! This is the Fern, going off is expected
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@nzzp said in T20 Internationals. Nz v Aus:
Two great balls from Southee get the LBW.
Aus reviewing ...
Shit just when I switch over to the footy
@gunner said in T20 Internationals. Nz v Aus:
@nzzp said in T20 Internationals. Nz v Aus:
Two great balls from Southee get the LBW.
Aus reviewing ...
Shit just when I switch over to the footy
damnit, too high. Missing wickets
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@gunner said in T20 Internationals. Nz v Aus:
Either we’re bowling really well, or this is a tricky pitch to bat on.
or both?
Maxy gone. Great to watch, but pleased I saw him for a while two days ago
