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  • dogmeatD dogmeat

    @snowy I wish I'd done physics, but at 14 I thought School C was going to be tough so I choose the subjects that I thought I'd do best at. My maths teacher in Form 4 was the phys ed teacher so I avoided the hard sciences. Put me on a path of spouting bullshit for the rest of my life.

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    @dogmeat said in Americas Cup:

    Put me on a path of spouting bullshit for the rest of my life.

    You do fit in well here - particularly in an Americas cup thread.

    @antipodean said in Americas Cup:

    Physics is the ugly sister of pure maths. Her popularity is based on her low morals.

    I was going to take umbrage with that, but when I was doing school C, low morals in a girl would win over purity every time. They still do really, so you are quite correct.

    Did anyone answer @Crucial 's question about the starts earlier and one boat basically ignoring the other one? The chess game of match racing is beyond my comfort zone, I'd rather talk about the hydro and aero dynamics of that slut physics. Some on here even call her a witch, but it is worth noting that the prestart dial up does seem very different when doing 45 knots compared to 12. You basically get one shot at the opponent and is win or lose. Generally lose if you are on the unfavoured side.

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    • SnowyS Snowy

      @dogmeat said in Americas Cup:

      Put me on a path of spouting bullshit for the rest of my life.

      You do fit in well here - particularly in an Americas cup thread.

      @antipodean said in Americas Cup:

      Physics is the ugly sister of pure maths. Her popularity is based on her low morals.

      I was going to take umbrage with that, but when I was doing school C, low morals in a girl would win over purity every time. They still do really, so you are quite correct.

      Did anyone answer @Crucial 's question about the starts earlier and one boat basically ignoring the other one? The chess game of match racing is beyond my comfort zone, I'd rather talk about the hydro and aero dynamics of that slut physics. Some on here even call her a witch, but it is worth noting that the prestart dial up does seem very different when doing 45 knots compared to 12. You basically get one shot at the opponent and is win or lose. Generally lose if you are on the unfavoured side.

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      @snowy I guess if you lose the start and the wind is not wildly shifting the better risk reward is to stay in touch and see if you can pressure the leading crew into making a mistake rather than going for the all on black option of taking the less favoured side of the course.

      If starts do remain the critical race decider we may see more sailing off on your own as the match progresses, but then the leading boat just covers.

      The perceived 'wisdom' after only two races 🙄 is that LR is more manoueverable and thus will come out better in a tacking duel. It didn't seem that way to me in the last upwind leg yesterday.

      All that physics stuff was the dark arts when I was sailing, look at the water, look at the sky, stay between the other boat and the mark - pretend you know what you're doing and don't fuck up.

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      • dogmeatD dogmeat

        @snowy I guess if you lose the start and the wind is not wildly shifting the better risk reward is to stay in touch and see if you can pressure the leading crew into making a mistake rather than going for the all on black option of taking the less favoured side of the course.

        If starts do remain the critical race decider we may see more sailing off on your own as the match progresses, but then the leading boat just covers.

        The perceived 'wisdom' after only two races 🙄 is that LR is more manoueverable and thus will come out better in a tacking duel. It didn't seem that way to me in the last upwind leg yesterday.

        All that physics stuff was the dark arts when I was sailing, look at the water, look at the sky, stay between the other boat and the mark - pretend you know what you're doing and don't fuck up.

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        @dogmeat Agree with all of that. As someone mentioned the dial up allowed one boat to protect a side of the course for either expected pressure or a shift. Failing that, force a mistake to get ahead over the line. In displacement boats they had so many pre start moves it was more likely than now it seems.

        As for that dirty tart, physics, yes, she is still back in the shed (or behind it) while the sailors are moistening their fingers and raising them.

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          The wind strength/direction in Course E is more stable. If Murray moves to the other courses over the weekend there may be more opportunities to pass.

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          • dogmeatD dogmeat

            @snowy I guess if you lose the start and the wind is not wildly shifting the better risk reward is to stay in touch and see if you can pressure the leading crew into making a mistake rather than going for the all on black option of taking the less favoured side of the course.

            If starts do remain the critical race decider we may see more sailing off on your own as the match progresses, but then the leading boat just covers.

            The perceived 'wisdom' after only two races 🙄 is that LR is more manoueverable and thus will come out better in a tacking duel. It didn't seem that way to me in the last upwind leg yesterday.

            All that physics stuff was the dark arts when I was sailing, look at the water, look at the sky, stay between the other boat and the mark - pretend you know what you're doing and don't fuck up.

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            @dogmeat the times I been sailing i was stoked when we were doing 10knots VMG (was usually about 5 or 6)

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            • antipodeanA antipodean

              @snowy said in Americas Cup:

              Applied maths, pure maths, chemistry, and the gold of them all, physics

              Physics is the ugly sister of pure maths. Her popularity is based on her low morals.

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              @antipodean said in Americas Cup:

              @snowy said in Americas Cup:

              Applied maths, pure maths, chemistry, and the gold of them all, physics

              Physics is the ugly sister of pure maths. Her popularity is based on her low morals.

              there's only two kinds of science. Physics and stamp collecting.

              disclaimer: I studied physics

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              • nzzpN nzzp

                @antipodean said in Americas Cup:

                @snowy said in Americas Cup:

                Applied maths, pure maths, chemistry, and the gold of them all, physics

                Physics is the ugly sister of pure maths. Her popularity is based on her low morals.

                there's only two kinds of science. Physics and stamp collecting.

                disclaimer: I studied physics

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                @nzzp said in Americas Cup:

                @antipodean said in Americas Cup:

                @snowy said in Americas Cup:

                Applied maths, pure maths, chemistry, and the gold of them all, physics

                Physics is the ugly sister of pure maths. Her popularity is based on her low morals.

                there's only two kinds of science. Physics and stamp collecting.

                disclaimer: I studied physics

                There are only two things I can't stand in this world: People who are intolerant of other people's sciences, and physicists.

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                  How did this thread turn into an episode of the Big Bang Theory?

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                  • dogmeatD dogmeat

                    @chris-b General Science wasn't even an option for us at School C. You had to specialise.

                    I bet @Snowy took Biology - and worked after school in the Butchery Department at Foodtown (as was).

                    Sailings more physics anyway.

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                    @dogmeat said in Americas Cup:

                    @chris-b General Science wasn't even an option for us at School C. You had to specialise.

                    I bet @Snowy took Biology - and worked after school in the Butchery Department at Foodtown (as was).

                    Sailings more physics anyway.

                    My school only offered about 9 subjects and three of them were Home Economics, Woodwork and Typing.

                    You were only allowed to take five.

                    However, it was in North Canterbury with various Wyllies, Deans, Loes and Earls floating about at the time - which is why I know more about The Art of Rugby Football than all you fluffybunnies! 🙂

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                      Course E again today and light wins like 6-10knots NE.

                      Course A would be the best in these conditions

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                        Light winds may mean no racing at all today.

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                        • BovidaeB Bovidae

                          Light winds may mean no racing at all today.

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                          @bovidae I came across the harbour bridge an hour ago and the flags were hanging on their poles. Zero wind.

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                          • dogmeatD dogmeat

                            @bovidae I came across the harbour bridge an hour ago and the flags were hanging on their poles. Zero wind.

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                            @dogmeat

                            And this doesn't help either:

                            “There’s a very high percentage we won’t get any racing today. The prognosis going forward isn't a whole lot better the next couple of days,” Murray warned as a high pressure system envelopes the country.
                            “We will go out and try our hand on Course E. We could get a NNE coming down the channel. It’s just a tricky day, I’m afraid.”
                            A return to level 1 also means Murray can use the “stadium course” that runs between North Head and Rangitoto Island through, frustratingly, it isn't a good option in very light winds.

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                            • BovidaeB Bovidae

                              @dogmeat

                              And this doesn't help either:

                              “There’s a very high percentage we won’t get any racing today. The prognosis going forward isn't a whole lot better the next couple of days,” Murray warned as a high pressure system envelopes the country.
                              “We will go out and try our hand on Course E. We could get a NNE coming down the channel. It’s just a tricky day, I’m afraid.”
                              A return to level 1 also means Murray can use the “stadium course” that runs between North Head and Rangitoto Island through, frustratingly, it isn't a good option in very light winds.

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                              Yeah cant see any racing at the moment. 2-3knots out there!

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                                Yeah cant see any racing at the moment. 2-3knots out there!

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                                @jk said in Americas Cup:

                                Yeah cant see any racing at the moment. 2-3knots out there!

                                more sail!

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                                • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                                  @jk said in Americas Cup:

                                  Yeah cant see any racing at the moment. 2-3knots out there!

                                  more sail!

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                                  @kiwiwomble said in Americas Cup:

                                  @jk said in Americas Cup:

                                  Yeah cant see any racing at the moment. 2-3knots out there!

                                  more sail!

                                  c34f3043-d71a-4d73-8ede-a7ec0116a8e2-image.jpeg

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                                    According to live reports it is 9.7 knots out on the course

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                                      I hate that their boat is blacker than ours

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                                        New start time of 4:23 pm. piston wristed gibbons on the race course.

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                                        • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                          New start time of 4:23 pm. piston wristed gibbons on the race course.

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                                          @bovidae said in Americas Cup:

                                          New start time of 4:23 pm. piston wristed gibbons on the race course.

                                          Wish they'd stayed on the course...

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