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  • KiwiwombleK Offline
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    replied to Machpants on last edited by Kiwiwomble
    #835

    @machpants said in Americas Cup:

    A bit like the time on GPS clocks being out for quite a few years.

    You mean Selective Availability?

    We have different understandings on the definition of metric units

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    @machpants said in Americas Cup:

    Metric system is based on measurable things, not (for example) the length of some Greek blokes' foot, or 1000 paces.

    well, kinda mostly. A metre is 1/10,000 of the way from the equator to the pole. Except that varies depending on which pole ... and changes over time. The kilogram for ages was based on a reference kilogram held in Paris... which is kinda arbitrary... like someone's foot 🙂

    I think the metric strength is the base 10 ratios are the real strength, and the subseqent linking to definitions that are can be calculated and developed independently is a great evolution. But initially, it was kinda arbitrary

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    #837

    Almost all of the comments about the nautical mile are true. Which is amusing, in that we can manage to disagree / clarify on issues that have changed, and do change with time, including the semantics. The earth being an oblate spheroid that is constantly on the move is an annoyance that we have to live with.

    Full disclosure: 100% in commercial pilot navigation exam (I think these things have come up about school C so thought that I should throw that in there) and a whole bunch of other shit that nobody wants to hear about.

    I think that we should discuss map projections now. What is everyone's favourite and why? I've always been a fan (shouldn't use that word, the lambert conical supporters will be all over it) of the Mercator. It just makes NZ look bigger. A bit shit for navigation, but the symmetry is nice.

    As for the racing- it really is getting boring. Port entry wins unless someone seriously screws up. I think that we do have an edge in speed overall, but if we are behind it isn't enough to get in front. @Crucial may well be correct and with one extra port entry that might be the decider.

    The engineers, designers, etc, did a great job with fascinating machines to watch but the race organisers, committee dropped the ball IMO. Too much about spectators on shore, TB coverage and not enough about creating a contest between the boats. Wider courses with probably longer races would have helped. can anyone remind me when there was a pass? I feel that I can just watch the start and walk away now.

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  • KiwiwombleK Offline
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    #838

    @snowy said in Americas Cup:

    Almost all of the comments about the nautical mile are true. Which is amusing, in that we can manage to disagree / clarify on issues that have changed, and do change with time, including the semantics..

    I think that we should discuss map projections now. What is everyone's favourite and why?

    True and fair enough

    Mercator is a classic obviously, from a usability point a view nz’s meridional circuits are top notch, but I would say that

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    #839

    @snowy so to summarise, the earth is flat?

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    #840

    @taniwharugby said in Americas Cup:

    @snowy so to summarise, the earth is flat?

    If you use a big enough scale, yes!

    I do like me some Myriahedral Projections

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    Not for actual navigation tho 😉

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    #841

    @taniwharugby said in Americas Cup:

    @snowy so to summarise, the earth is flat?

    It would make things easier. That sky fairy really fucked it up.

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  • BovidaeB Offline
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    #842

    Some variety today, the other race track course to be used.

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  • SnowyS Offline
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    #843

    @machpants said in Americas Cup:

    @taniwharugby said in Americas Cup:

    @snowy so to summarise, the earth is flat?

    If you use a big enough scale, yes!

    I do like me some Myriahedral Projections

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    Not for actual navigation tho 😉

    Milo.
    I will be fluent in Polish before I am done with the Fern.

    7-11kts according to AC website for the match. Have they announced a course?

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  • SnowyS Offline
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    @bovidae Thx. Posts crossed.

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  • M Offline
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    #845

    Whoops off the foils in pre start, well behind, very shit by TNZ. So as long as LR can keep it up (oo-er missus) the race is theirs.

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    #846

    That start is stunning incompetence.

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    #847

    So TNZ just straight up fucked that up right?

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    #848

    These races are over at the start. Boring as shit.

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  • BovidaeB Offline
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    #849

    This could be the defining race of the AC if LR wins against serve (so to speak).

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  • taniwharugbyT Offline
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    #850

    TNZ look to be covering more distance again.

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    #851

    Burling is terrible at the starts. If you go back to the last cup it was exactly the same except when he lost the starts then he had the speed to catch up. Now his starts are sinking his team.

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  • KruseK Offline
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    #852

    @snowy said in Americas Cup:

    I think that we should discuss map projections now. What is everyone's favourite and why? I've always been a fan (shouldn't use that word, the lambert conical supporters will be all over it) of the Mercator. It just makes NZ look bigger. A bit shit for navigation, but the symmetry is nice.

    I thought the Mercator had been confirmed to be racist?
    You Racist.
    In any case, with any of the cylindrical projections, including your racist Mercator.... I much prefer the version with China in the middle, rather than Europe. It just fits so much better, and incidentally with pleasing symmetry.

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  • DamoD Offline
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    #853

    These races are all incredibly dull. The format, course and boats are a dud this year.

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  • BovidaeB Offline
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    #854

    @tim said in Americas Cup:

    These races are over at the start. Boring as shit.

    Especially in the light winds. We need some 20+ knots to make these races interesting. Otherwise 💤

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