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All Blacks 2021

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  • NepiaN Nepia

    @sparky said in All Blacks 2021:

    @nepia Besides his try, Akira Ioane was strangely last night. 5 carries for 11 metres, made one tackle. At his best Akira Ioane is one of the best players in NZ, but he is frustratingly inconsistent.

    So many contenders at 6 but had to see a clear best option yet.

    I don't think Ioane is that inconsistent (2018 and 2020 after he got starts he was consistently good, 2019 he was average all year but we all know that), but like most players he has his dips in some games. I'm a little worried for NZ rugby as I maybe Prinseep was the best 6 on display this weekend.

    That new redhead guy on the wing looked good for the Blues last night. He has the size, I wonder how he'd go on the blindside?

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    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby-sir-clive-woodwards-glowing-endorsement-for-crusaders-coach-scott-robertson-to-replace-eddie-jones-as-england-coach/7S5YLQSVG3UL6HCYATZAYXBLRA/

    Bloody hell why isn't Scott Robertson wrapped up in the AB coaching team? We can't afford to let England snaffle him-that would be outright poaching!

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    • sparkyS sparky

      @mn5 Akira Ioane a possibility at 6, his power would be very useful at Test level, but he is not playing well enough to have a lock on the Jersey.

      Reiko's an option at both 11 and 13, but missed six tackles yesterday.

      I'm a fan of the Ioane bros when they are playing well.

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      @sparky said in All Blacks 2021:

      @mn5 Akira Ioane a possibility at 6, his power would be very useful at Test level, but he is not playing well enough to have a lock on the Jersey.

      Reiko's an option at both 11 and 13, but missed six tackles yesterday.

      I'm a fan of the Ioane bros when they are playing well.

      how many of Reiko's missed tackles were on the opposing midfielders I wonder?

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      • sparkyS sparky

        My first stab at naming an AB team in 2021

        1. Moody ( By a country mile)
        2. Taylor
        3. Laulala
        4. Whitelock
        5. Scott Barrett (when's Lurch back?)
        6. Very open. Maybe Big Red.
        7. Sam Cane (c)
        8. Ardie Savea (Hoskins seems to have second season blues)
        9. Aaron Smith
        10. Richie Mo'unga
        11. Caleb Clarke (Needs to up his work rate)
        12. David Havili
        13. Jack Goodhue
        14. Will Jordan
        15. Jordie Barrett
        16. Aumua (If he gets fit)
        17. Karl T
        18. Ofa T
        19. Very open. Patrick T? Dunshea?
        20. Dalton Papalii
        21. Fakatava
        22. DMac
        23. Reiko Ioane
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        @sparky said in All Blacks 2021:

        My first stab at naming an AB team in 2021

        1. Moody ( By a country mile)
        2. Taylor
        3. Laulala
        4. Whitelock
        5. Scott Barrett (when's Lurch back?)
        6. Very open. Maybe Big Red.
        7. Sam Cane (c)
        8. Ardie Savea (Hoskins seems to have second season blues)
        9. Aaron Smith
        10. Richie Mo'unga
        11. Caleb Clarke (Needs to up his work rate)
        12. David Havili
        13. Jack Goodhue
        14. Will Jordan
        15. Jordie Barrett
        16. Aumua (If he gets fit)
        17. Karl T
        18. Ofa T
        19. Very open. Patrick T? Dunshea?
        20. Dalton Papalii
        21. Fakatava
        22. DMac
        23. Reiko Ioane

        19 : PPP ?

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        • C cgrant

          @sparky said in All Blacks 2021:

          My first stab at naming an AB team in 2021

          1. Moody ( By a country mile)
          2. Taylor
          3. Laulala
          4. Whitelock
          5. Scott Barrett (when's Lurch back?)
          6. Very open. Maybe Big Red.
          7. Sam Cane (c)
          8. Ardie Savea (Hoskins seems to have second season blues)
          9. Aaron Smith
          10. Richie Mo'unga
          11. Caleb Clarke (Needs to up his work rate)
          12. David Havili
          13. Jack Goodhue
          14. Will Jordan
          15. Jordie Barrett
          16. Aumua (If he gets fit)
          17. Karl T
          18. Ofa T
          19. Very open. Patrick T? Dunshea?
          20. Dalton Papalii
          21. Fakatava
          22. DMac
          23. Reiko Ioane

          19 : PPP ?

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          @cgrant A big unit with a high workrate. If he can string some form together and I can see him making the ABs.

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            @cgrant A big unit with a high workrate. If he can string some form together and I can see him making the ABs.

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            @sparky said in All Blacks 2021:

            @cgrant A big unit with a high workrate. If he can string some form together and I can see him making the ABs.

            I know it was first game back after a layoff and you couldn't fault the workrate but I can't really recall PPP ever really stamping his mark on a game in the way a big man should, even if it is every now and again to show potential.
            He has the size, the engine and the skills but I'm still waiting for that last piece of the puzzle to turn up.
            Maybe I just have my expectations too high and miss BBBR?

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            • C cgrant

              @sparky said in All Blacks 2021:

              My first stab at naming an AB team in 2021

              1. Moody ( By a country mile)
              2. Taylor
              3. Laulala
              4. Whitelock
              5. Scott Barrett (when's Lurch back?)
              6. Very open. Maybe Big Red.
              7. Sam Cane (c)
              8. Ardie Savea (Hoskins seems to have second season blues)
              9. Aaron Smith
              10. Richie Mo'unga
              11. Caleb Clarke (Needs to up his work rate)
              12. David Havili
              13. Jack Goodhue
              14. Will Jordan
              15. Jordie Barrett
              16. Aumua (If he gets fit)
              17. Karl T
              18. Ofa T
              19. Very open. Patrick T? Dunshea?
              20. Dalton Papalii
              21. Fakatava
              22. DMac
              23. Reiko Ioane

              19 : PPP ?

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              @cgrant said in All Blacks 2021:

              @sparky said in All Blacks 2021:

              My first stab at naming an AB team in 2021

              1. Moody ( By a country mile)
              2. Taylor
              3. Laulala
              4. Whitelock
              5. Scott Barrett (when's Lurch back?)
              6. Very open. Maybe Big Red.
              7. Sam Cane (c)
              8. Ardie Savea (Hoskins seems to have second season blues)
              9. Aaron Smith
              10. Richie Mo'unga
              11. Caleb Clarke (Needs to up his work rate)
              12. David Havili
              13. Jack Goodhue
              14. Will Jordan
              15. Jordie Barrett
              16. Aumua (If he gets fit)
              17. Karl T
              18. Ofa T
              19. Very open. Patrick T? Dunshea?
              20. Dalton Papalii
              21. Fakatava
              22. DMac
              23. Reiko Ioane

              19 : PPP ?

              Vaa'i?

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              • CrucialC Crucial

                @sparky said in All Blacks 2021:

                @cgrant A big unit with a high workrate. If he can string some form together and I can see him making the ABs.

                I know it was first game back after a layoff and you couldn't fault the workrate but I can't really recall PPP ever really stamping his mark on a game in the way a big man should, even if it is every now and again to show potential.
                He has the size, the engine and the skills but I'm still waiting for that last piece of the puzzle to turn up.
                Maybe I just have my expectations too high and miss BBBR?

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                @crucial we saw a couple of glimpses of what he was doing last year, so the potential is still there. He gets hit but just kinda keeps going as though he's wading through waist high water. Give him a game or two to get back used to rugby and throwing a slightly larger body around, I reckon we'll start to see his quality.

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                • BonesB Bones

                  @crucial we saw a couple of glimpses of what he was doing last year, so the potential is still there. He gets hit but just kinda keeps going as though he's wading through waist high water. Give him a game or two to get back used to rugby and throwing a slightly larger body around, I reckon we'll start to see his quality.

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                  @bones said in All Blacks 2021:

                  @crucial we saw a couple of glimpses of what he was doing last year, so the potential is still there. He gets hit but just kinda keeps going as though he's wading through waist high water. Give him a game or two to get back used to rugby and throwing a slightly larger body around, I reckon we'll start to see his quality.

                  Hope so. I’d like to have a big option to keep Pat T and S Barrett away from the jersey.

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                  • BonesB Bones

                    @crucial we saw a couple of glimpses of what he was doing last year, so the potential is still there. He gets hit but just kinda keeps going as though he's wading through waist high water. Give him a game or two to get back used to rugby and throwing a slightly larger body around, I reckon we'll start to see his quality.

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                    #105

                    @bones said in All Blacks 2021:

                    @crucial we saw a couple of glimpses of what he was doing last year, so the potential is still there. He gets hit but just kinda keeps going as though he's wading through waist high water. Give him a game or two to get back used to rugby and throwing a slightly larger body around, I reckon we'll start to see his quality.

                    yeah, he definitely had a couple of runs (strides) with some tacklers hanging off or bouncing off him

                    I hope he'll get to at least train with the AB's, we see some people really respond to those kinds of opportunities

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                      #106

                      Yep fitness permitting get PPP in. He was pencilled in last year before his injury. Thought he looked really sharp on the weekend considering how long it's been since he played.

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                        I think our scrum looked a lot better with him in there too

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                          A massive amount of excellent of loose forwards, not so much with the locks.

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                          • boobooB booboo

                            @cgrant said in All Blacks 2021:

                            @sparky said in All Blacks 2021:

                            My first stab at naming an AB team in 2021

                            1. Moody ( By a country mile)
                            2. Taylor
                            3. Laulala
                            4. Whitelock
                            5. Scott Barrett (when's Lurch back?)
                            6. Very open. Maybe Big Red.
                            7. Sam Cane (c)
                            8. Ardie Savea (Hoskins seems to have second season blues)
                            9. Aaron Smith
                            10. Richie Mo'unga
                            11. Caleb Clarke (Needs to up his work rate)
                            12. David Havili
                            13. Jack Goodhue
                            14. Will Jordan
                            15. Jordie Barrett
                            16. Aumua (If he gets fit)
                            17. Karl T
                            18. Ofa T
                            19. Very open. Patrick T? Dunshea?
                            20. Dalton Papalii
                            21. Fakatava
                            22. DMac
                            23. Reiko Ioane

                            19 : PPP ?

                            Vaa'i?

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                            @booboo said in All Blacks 2021:

                            @cgrant said in All Blacks 2021:

                            @sparky said in All Blacks 2021:

                            My first stab at naming an AB team in 2021

                            1. Moody ( By a country mile)
                            2. Taylor
                            3. Laulala
                            4. Whitelock
                            5. Scott Barrett (when's Lurch back?)
                            6. Very open. Maybe Big Red.
                            7. Sam Cane (c)
                            8. Ardie Savea (Hoskins seems to have second season blues)
                            9. Aaron Smith
                            10. Richie Mo'unga
                            11. Caleb Clarke (Needs to up his work rate)
                            12. David Havili
                            13. Jack Goodhue
                            14. Will Jordan
                            15. Jordie Barrett
                            16. Aumua (If he gets fit)
                            17. Karl T
                            18. Ofa T
                            19. Very open. Patrick T? Dunshea?
                            20. Dalton Papalii
                            21. Fakatava
                            22. DMac
                            23. Reiko Ioane

                            19 : PPP ?

                            Vaa'i?

                            Short memories peeps

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                              Interestingly Brodie has apparently trimmed down quite a bit in Japan according to Wayne Smith on the Breakdown, while this will be a good thing for his fitness and speed, seems like he may need to bulk up a bit when he returns.

                              I reckon there are a few locks who can't be far off, however with SW, SB, PT and TV, I'm guessing we won't see anyone other than a WTG role.

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                                Interestingly Brodie has apparently trimmed down quite a bit in Japan according to Wayne Smith on the Breakdown, while this will be a good thing for his fitness and speed, seems like he may need to bulk up a bit when he returns.

                                I reckon there are a few locks who can't be far off, however with SW, SB, PT and TV, I'm guessing we won't see anyone other than a WTG role.

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                                @mofitzy_ “The game’s different over there, if you watch Kobe play at the moment and see Brodie Retallick – he’s down to 117 kgs because he’s got to be able to keep up with the game. He’s magnificent, he’s absolutely magnificent,” he added.

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                                • boobooB booboo

                                  @cgrant said in All Blacks 2021:

                                  @sparky said in All Blacks 2021:

                                  My first stab at naming an AB team in 2021

                                  1. Moody ( By a country mile)
                                  2. Taylor
                                  3. Laulala
                                  4. Whitelock
                                  5. Scott Barrett (when's Lurch back?)
                                  6. Very open. Maybe Big Red.
                                  7. Sam Cane (c)
                                  8. Ardie Savea (Hoskins seems to have second season blues)
                                  9. Aaron Smith
                                  10. Richie Mo'unga
                                  11. Caleb Clarke (Needs to up his work rate)
                                  12. David Havili
                                  13. Jack Goodhue
                                  14. Will Jordan
                                  15. Jordie Barrett
                                  16. Aumua (If he gets fit)
                                  17. Karl T
                                  18. Ofa T
                                  19. Very open. Patrick T? Dunshea?
                                  20. Dalton Papalii
                                  21. Fakatava
                                  22. DMac
                                  23. Reiko Ioane

                                  19 : PPP ?

                                  Vaa'i?

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                                  • boobooB booboo

                                    @cgrant said in All Blacks 2021:

                                    @sparky said in All Blacks 2021:

                                    My first stab at naming an AB team in 2021

                                    1. Moody ( By a country mile)
                                    2. Taylor
                                    3. Laulala
                                    4. Whitelock
                                    5. Scott Barrett (when's Lurch back?)
                                    6. Very open. Maybe Big Red.
                                    7. Sam Cane (c)
                                    8. Ardie Savea (Hoskins seems to have second season blues)
                                    9. Aaron Smith
                                    10. Richie Mo'unga
                                    11. Caleb Clarke (Needs to up his work rate)
                                    12. David Havili
                                    13. Jack Goodhue
                                    14. Will Jordan
                                    15. Jordie Barrett
                                    16. Aumua (If he gets fit)
                                    17. Karl T
                                    18. Ofa T
                                    19. Very open. Patrick T? Dunshea?
                                    20. Dalton Papalii
                                    21. Fakatava
                                    22. DMac
                                    23. Reiko Ioane

                                    19 : PPP ?

                                    Vaa'i?

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                                    @booboo I reckon Vaa'i is going to be bloody good, he not too bad now , and he just out of his cot really!

                                    Mind you I always been a PPP fan too, and think he gots lots to like too

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                                      The sacred All Blacks mauri stone has been handed over to the All Blacks Experience at SkyCity in central Auckland, where it will stay whenever the All Blacks are not playing.
                                      The All Blacks Experience team will act as kaitiaki of the precious taonga, which accompanies the All Blacks wherever they play, at home or overseas. The stone embodies the team’s mana and offers them protection in their travels and on the field.

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                                        How long has that been a thing?

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                                          How long has that been a thing?

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                                          @antipodean ages as!

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