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  • CatograndeC Catogrande

    @sparky I take your point but feel that Gatland is different. He invested God knows how many years with Wales and was very successful in that he won a lot of silverware, quite often at the expense of England. He has a strong attachment to Wales and left on very good terms. Eddie not so much save for his stint in Japan. Mitchell? Has he left anywhere on good terms? Has he won anything at international level?

    I just don’t se him going to England and whilst I can see the RFU going for him, not so much the England fan base. I could be wrong and would be prepared to eat humble pie if proved wrong but I won’t be getting my knife and fork out just yet.

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    @catogrande said in NH International Rugby:

    I could be wrong and would be prepared to eat humble pie

    Hats are more traditional around here and some good recipes will be offered.

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      @sparky I take your point but feel that Gatland is different. He invested God knows how many years with Wales and was very successful in that he won a lot of silverware, quite often at the expense of England. He has a strong attachment to Wales and left on very good terms. Eddie not so much save for his stint in Japan. Mitchell? Has he left anywhere on good terms? Has he won anything at international level?

      I just don’t se him going to England and whilst I can see the RFU going for him, not so much the England fan base. I could be wrong and would be prepared to eat humble pie if proved wrong but I won’t be getting my knife and fork out just yet.

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      @catogrande said in NH International Rugby:

      @sparky I take your point but feel that Gatland is different. He invested God knows how many years with Wales and was very successful in that he won a lot of silverware, quite often at the expense of England. He has a strong attachment to Wales and left on very good terms. Eddie not so much save for his stint in Japan. Mitchell? Has he left anywhere on good terms? Has he won anything at international level?

      I just don’t se him going to England and whilst I can see the RFU going for him, not so much the England fan base. I could be wrong and would be prepared to eat humble pie if proved wrong but I won’t be getting my knife and fork out just yet.

      I don't really see the motivation for Gats to coach England, TBH. It's not like he needs the cash and it's not like the prestige would attract him given he's beaten them plenty and is in any event coach of the BIL - probably the pinnacle for any "home nation" player or coach in terms of "prestige"

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        @catogrande said in NH International Rugby:

        @sparky I take your point but feel that Gatland is different. He invested God knows how many years with Wales and was very successful in that he won a lot of silverware, quite often at the expense of England. He has a strong attachment to Wales and left on very good terms. Eddie not so much save for his stint in Japan. Mitchell? Has he left anywhere on good terms? Has he won anything at international level?

        I just don’t se him going to England and whilst I can see the RFU going for him, not so much the England fan base. I could be wrong and would be prepared to eat humble pie if proved wrong but I won’t be getting my knife and fork out just yet.

        I don't really see the motivation for Gats to coach England, TBH. It's not like he needs the cash and it's not like the prestige would attract him given he's beaten them plenty and is in any event coach of the BIL - probably the pinnacle for any "home nation" player or coach in terms of "prestige"

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        @junior Eddie Jones is on £750,000 a year plus bonuses. It looks like he was on £1 million a year at one stage.

        https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/sport/2020/apr/01/eddie-jones-set-to-sign-new-england-contract-rugby-union-world-cup-2023

        A couple of years of that would set Gats up for a very nice retirement indeed. Plus given England's player strength, they must be realistic world Cup contenders. He seemed to enjoy working with Farrell, Watson, Itoje and Daly during the 2017 Liosn tour too.

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          Red card AND a 3 week ban. Bloody hell.

          https://www.rugbydump.com/news/scottish-prop-cops-ban-after-clumsy-head-contact-against-england/

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          • BonesB Bones

            Red card AND a 3 week ban. Bloody hell.

            https://www.rugbydump.com/news/scottish-prop-cops-ban-after-clumsy-head-contact-against-england/

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            @bones said in NH International Rugby:

            Red card AND a 3 week ban. Bloody hell.

            https://www.rugbydump.com/news/scottish-prop-cops-ban-after-clumsy-head-contact-against-england/

            If that's the only way to teach/encourage/enforce players to hit below the nips then so be it

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            • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

              @bones said in NH International Rugby:

              Red card AND a 3 week ban. Bloody hell.

              https://www.rugbydump.com/news/scottish-prop-cops-ban-after-clumsy-head-contact-against-england/

              If that's the only way to teach/encourage/enforce players to hit below the nips then so be it

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              @mikethesnow said in NH International Rugby:

              @bones said in NH International Rugby:

              Red card AND a 3 week ban. Bloody hell.

              https://www.rugbydump.com/news/scottish-prop-cops-ban-after-clumsy-head-contact-against-england/

              If that's the only way to teach/encourage/enforce players to hit below the nips then so be it

              Is it that much of an issue in the women's game? Don't know if you saw the footage, but from what I saw that was penalty only in the men's game. Yellow card at best. Would have thought red card was plenty of punishment.

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              • BonesB Bones

                @mikethesnow said in NH International Rugby:

                @bones said in NH International Rugby:

                Red card AND a 3 week ban. Bloody hell.

                https://www.rugbydump.com/news/scottish-prop-cops-ban-after-clumsy-head-contact-against-england/

                If that's the only way to teach/encourage/enforce players to hit below the nips then so be it

                Is it that much of an issue in the women's game? Don't know if you saw the footage, but from what I saw that was penalty only in the men's game. Yellow card at best. Would have thought red card was plenty of punishment.

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                #2495

                @bones said in NH International Rugby:

                @mikethesnow said in NH International Rugby:

                @bones said in NH International Rugby:

                Red card AND a 3 week ban. Bloody hell.

                https://www.rugbydump.com/news/scottish-prop-cops-ban-after-clumsy-head-contact-against-england/

                If that's the only way to teach/encourage/enforce players to hit below the nips then so be it

                Is it that much of an issue in the women's game? Don't know if you saw the footage, but from what I saw that was penalty only in the men's game. Yellow card at best. Would have thought red card was plenty of punishment.

                Wasn't being gender specific, below the nips for men and women. More than enough body to tackle the ball carrier without either player getting a knock to the head (unless you have shit tackling techinque).

                Shoulder/arm contact directly to the head = red all day.

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                • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                  @bones said in NH International Rugby:

                  @mikethesnow said in NH International Rugby:

                  @bones said in NH International Rugby:

                  Red card AND a 3 week ban. Bloody hell.

                  https://www.rugbydump.com/news/scottish-prop-cops-ban-after-clumsy-head-contact-against-england/

                  If that's the only way to teach/encourage/enforce players to hit below the nips then so be it

                  Is it that much of an issue in the women's game? Don't know if you saw the footage, but from what I saw that was penalty only in the men's game. Yellow card at best. Would have thought red card was plenty of punishment.

                  Wasn't being gender specific, below the nips for men and women. More than enough body to tackle the ball carrier without either player getting a knock to the head (unless you have shit tackling techinque).

                  Shoulder/arm contact directly to the head = red all day.

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                  @mikethesnow said in NH International Rugby:

                  @bones said in NH International Rugby:

                  @mikethesnow said in NH International Rugby:

                  @bones said in NH International Rugby:

                  Red card AND a 3 week ban. Bloody hell.

                  https://www.rugbydump.com/news/scottish-prop-cops-ban-after-clumsy-head-contact-against-england/

                  If that's the only way to teach/encourage/enforce players to hit below the nips then so be it

                  Is it that much of an issue in the women's game? Don't know if you saw the footage, but from what I saw that was penalty only in the men's game. Yellow card at best. Would have thought red card was plenty of punishment.

                  Wasn't being gender specific, below the nips for men and women. More than enough body to tackle the ball carrier without either player getting a knock to the head (unless you have shit tackling techinque).

                  Shoulder/arm contact directly to the head = red all day.

                  See if you can fish out the footage....

                  You'll probably know I'm in support of what you're stating, but this is heavy handed.

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                  • BonesB Bones

                    @mikethesnow said in NH International Rugby:

                    @bones said in NH International Rugby:

                    @mikethesnow said in NH International Rugby:

                    @bones said in NH International Rugby:

                    Red card AND a 3 week ban. Bloody hell.

                    https://www.rugbydump.com/news/scottish-prop-cops-ban-after-clumsy-head-contact-against-england/

                    If that's the only way to teach/encourage/enforce players to hit below the nips then so be it

                    Is it that much of an issue in the women's game? Don't know if you saw the footage, but from what I saw that was penalty only in the men's game. Yellow card at best. Would have thought red card was plenty of punishment.

                    Wasn't being gender specific, below the nips for men and women. More than enough body to tackle the ball carrier without either player getting a knock to the head (unless you have shit tackling techinque).

                    Shoulder/arm contact directly to the head = red all day.

                    See if you can fish out the footage....

                    You'll probably know I'm in support of what you're stating, but this is heavy handed.

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                    #2497

                    @bones said in NH International Rugby:

                    @mikethesnow said in NH International Rugby:

                    @bones said in NH International Rugby:

                    @mikethesnow said in NH International Rugby:

                    @bones said in NH International Rugby:

                    Red card AND a 3 week ban. Bloody hell.

                    https://www.rugbydump.com/news/scottish-prop-cops-ban-after-clumsy-head-contact-against-england/

                    If that's the only way to teach/encourage/enforce players to hit below the nips then so be it

                    Is it that much of an issue in the women's game? Don't know if you saw the footage, but from what I saw that was penalty only in the men's game. Yellow card at best. Would have thought red card was plenty of punishment.

                    Wasn't being gender specific, below the nips for men and women. More than enough body to tackle the ball carrier without either player getting a knock to the head (unless you have shit tackling techinque).

                    Shoulder/arm contact directly to the head = red all day.

                    See if you can fish out the footage....

                    You'll probably know I'm in support of what you're stating, but this is heavy handed.

                    I watched it in the link you posted from 10:15

                    Clear and obvious shoulder / arm hitting the English player's head first. No dipping or slipping so clear red all day, both sexes, all grades of rugby, amateur and professional.

                    Don't understand how you view this as heavy handed

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                    • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                      @bones said in NH International Rugby:

                      @mikethesnow said in NH International Rugby:

                      @bones said in NH International Rugby:

                      @mikethesnow said in NH International Rugby:

                      @bones said in NH International Rugby:

                      Red card AND a 3 week ban. Bloody hell.

                      https://www.rugbydump.com/news/scottish-prop-cops-ban-after-clumsy-head-contact-against-england/

                      If that's the only way to teach/encourage/enforce players to hit below the nips then so be it

                      Is it that much of an issue in the women's game? Don't know if you saw the footage, but from what I saw that was penalty only in the men's game. Yellow card at best. Would have thought red card was plenty of punishment.

                      Wasn't being gender specific, below the nips for men and women. More than enough body to tackle the ball carrier without either player getting a knock to the head (unless you have shit tackling techinque).

                      Shoulder/arm contact directly to the head = red all day.

                      See if you can fish out the footage....

                      You'll probably know I'm in support of what you're stating, but this is heavy handed.

                      I watched it in the link you posted from 10:15

                      Clear and obvious shoulder / arm hitting the English player's head first. No dipping or slipping so clear red all day, both sexes, all grades of rugby, amateur and professional.

                      Don't understand how you view this as heavy handed

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                      @mikethesnow I'll have to watch it again, but on my initial viewing it appeared to hardly even make an impact.

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                      • BonesB Bones

                        @mikethesnow I'll have to watch it again, but on my initial viewing it appeared to hardly even make an impact.

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                        @bones said in NH International Rugby:

                        @mikethesnow I'll have to watch it again, but on my initial viewing it appeared to hardly even make an impact.

                        I didn't really think it mattered - but it looks like it's 'low' degree of danger. I thought clear red on first look, but the framework may suggest a yellow instead. Clumsy rather than brutal.

                        @damo?

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                        updated Head Contact Process (not sure which is used now)
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                        • nzzpN nzzp

                          @bones said in NH International Rugby:

                          @mikethesnow I'll have to watch it again, but on my initial viewing it appeared to hardly even make an impact.

                          I didn't really think it mattered - but it looks like it's 'low' degree of danger. I thought clear red on first look, but the framework may suggest a yellow instead. Clumsy rather than brutal.

                          @damo?

                          18d7e64e-11e8-422a-9488-4804136a7e44-image.png

                          updated Head Contact Process (not sure which is used now)
                          a7a9cd73-d2fd-4a08-b506-13b4eb723786-image.png

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                          @nzzp said in NH International Rugby:

                          @bones said in NH International Rugby:

                          @mikethesnow I'll have to watch it again, but on my initial viewing it appeared to hardly even make an impact.

                          I didn't really think it mattered - but it looks like it's 'low' degree of danger. I thought clear red on first look, but the framework may suggest a yellow instead. Clumsy rather than brutal.

                          @damo?

                          18d7e64e-11e8-422a-9488-4804136a7e44-image.png

                          updated Head Contact Process (not sure which is used now)
                          a7a9cd73-d2fd-4a08-b506-13b4eb723786-image.png

                          I agree that the degree of danger appears either low or medium. I would have gone for a YC myself.

                          I am now an ex-referee. My only role in rugby these days is on a judiciary panel.

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                            I did not notice Chris Harris

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                              Japan National Team Wider Training Squad for 2021

                              The Japan Rugby Football Union has today announced the 52 players and team staff who will make up the Japan National Team Wider Training Squad for 2021.

                              Players have been selected from both the domestic Top League and from oversees clubs, while Head Coach Jamie Joseph will work with the same coaching team of Tony Brown, Scott Hansen, and Shin Hasegawa, that lead the Brave Blossoms to the knockout stages at the Rugby World Cup 2019.

                              Full squad under the link, just wanted to highlight the inclusion of these players:

                              Craig Millar
                              Mark Abbott
                              Liaki Moli

                              and a few Aussies.

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                                  @stargazer said in NH International Rugby:

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                                  Hats off to Samoa and the Barbarians for nailing down the details of this fixture a long way in advance. Brilliant organisation given all that's going on.

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                                    @stargazer said in NH International Rugby:

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                                    Hats off to Samoa and the Barbarians for nailing down the details of this fixture a long way in advance. Brilliant organisation given all that's going on.

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                                    @sparky LOL only if it goes ahead

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                                      @sparky LOL only if it goes ahead

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                                      @machpants
                                      I'm sure they had the last Baabaas scheduled fixture named a long way in advance too...

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                                        "Jonah Lomu's son 'dreams' of playing in the Six Nations | Ruck" https://www.ruck.co.uk/jonah-lomus-son-dreams-of-playing-in-the-six-nations/

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                                          "Jonah Lomu's son 'dreams' of playing in the Six Nations | Ruck" https://www.ruck.co.uk/jonah-lomus-son-dreams-of-playing-in-the-six-nations/

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                                          @bones said in NH International Rugby:

                                          "Jonah Lomu's son 'dreams' of playing in the Six Nations | Ruck" https://www.ruck.co.uk/jonah-lomus-son-dreams-of-playing-in-the-six-nations/

                                          WTF is that website? It's like one of those clickbait pages you sometimes wind up on but just devoted to NH rugby.

                                          Edit: I just read Piers Morgans best ever XV, it's actually decent.

                                          Fuck, the click bait has worked.

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