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  • mofitzy_M mofitzy_

    Interestingly Brodie has apparently trimmed down quite a bit in Japan according to Wayne Smith on the Breakdown, while this will be a good thing for his fitness and speed, seems like he may need to bulk up a bit when he returns.

    I reckon there are a few locks who can't be far off, however with SW, SB, PT and TV, I'm guessing we won't see anyone other than a WTG role.

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    @mofitzy_ “The game’s different over there, if you watch Kobe play at the moment and see Brodie Retallick – he’s down to 117 kgs because he’s got to be able to keep up with the game. He’s magnificent, he’s absolutely magnificent,” he added.

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    • boobooB booboo

      @cgrant said in All Blacks 2021:

      @sparky said in All Blacks 2021:

      My first stab at naming an AB team in 2021

      1. Moody ( By a country mile)
      2. Taylor
      3. Laulala
      4. Whitelock
      5. Scott Barrett (when's Lurch back?)
      6. Very open. Maybe Big Red.
      7. Sam Cane (c)
      8. Ardie Savea (Hoskins seems to have second season blues)
      9. Aaron Smith
      10. Richie Mo'unga
      11. Caleb Clarke (Needs to up his work rate)
      12. David Havili
      13. Jack Goodhue
      14. Will Jordan
      15. Jordie Barrett
      16. Aumua (If he gets fit)
      17. Karl T
      18. Ofa T
      19. Very open. Patrick T? Dunshea?
      20. Dalton Papalii
      21. Fakatava
      22. DMac
      23. Reiko Ioane

      19 : PPP ?

      Vaa'i?

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      • boobooB booboo

        @cgrant said in All Blacks 2021:

        @sparky said in All Blacks 2021:

        My first stab at naming an AB team in 2021

        1. Moody ( By a country mile)
        2. Taylor
        3. Laulala
        4. Whitelock
        5. Scott Barrett (when's Lurch back?)
        6. Very open. Maybe Big Red.
        7. Sam Cane (c)
        8. Ardie Savea (Hoskins seems to have second season blues)
        9. Aaron Smith
        10. Richie Mo'unga
        11. Caleb Clarke (Needs to up his work rate)
        12. David Havili
        13. Jack Goodhue
        14. Will Jordan
        15. Jordie Barrett
        16. Aumua (If he gets fit)
        17. Karl T
        18. Ofa T
        19. Very open. Patrick T? Dunshea?
        20. Dalton Papalii
        21. Fakatava
        22. DMac
        23. Reiko Ioane

        19 : PPP ?

        Vaa'i?

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        @booboo I reckon Vaa'i is going to be bloody good, he not too bad now , and he just out of his cot really!

        Mind you I always been a PPP fan too, and think he gots lots to like too

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          The sacred All Blacks mauri stone has been handed over to the All Blacks Experience at SkyCity in central Auckland, where it will stay whenever the All Blacks are not playing.
          The All Blacks Experience team will act as kaitiaki of the precious taonga, which accompanies the All Blacks wherever they play, at home or overseas. The stone embodies the team’s mana and offers them protection in their travels and on the field.

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            How long has that been a thing?

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            • antipodeanA antipodean

              How long has that been a thing?

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              @antipodean ages as!

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              • antipodeanA antipodean

                How long has that been a thing?

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                @antipodean said in All Blacks 2021:

                How long has that been a thing?

                have to say i thought the same thing

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                • antipodeanA antipodean

                  How long has that been a thing?

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                  @antipodean said in All Blacks 2021:

                  How long has that been a thing?

                  Since the first ever newspaper article about Aura possibly being lost, I guess.

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                  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                    @antipodean ages as!

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                    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2021:

                    @antipodean ages as!

                    Really? I've never heard of it before. Interesting what passes me by sometimes.

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                    • KirwanK Kirwan

                      @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2021:

                      @antipodean ages as!

                      Really? I've never heard of it before. Interesting what passes me by sometimes.

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                      @kirwan yeah I have no idea either

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                        The sevens team have one I think, greenstone. It goes to the Comm games and Olympics with them or something. That would have started about 20 years ago. Had no idea the ABs had one too.

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                        • KirwanK Kirwan

                          @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2021:

                          @antipodean ages as!

                          Really? I've never heard of it before. Interesting what passes me by sometimes.

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                          @kirwan said in All Blacks 2021:

                          @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2021:

                          @antipodean ages as!

                          Really? I've never heard of it before. Interesting what passes me by sometimes.

                          Is it named aura?

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                            Team I'd like to see vs Italy :

                            J. Barrett
                            Jordan
                            P. Umaga-Jensen
                            Tupaea
                            Clarke
                            Mo'unga
                            Smith
                            A. Ioane
                            Papali'i
                            Robinson
                            Parkinson
                            Vai'i
                            Lomax
                            Taylor
                            Moody

                            Sub :
                            Aumua
                            Ross
                            Laulala
                            Whitelock
                            A. Savea
                            Weber
                            R. Ioane
                            McKenzie / Havili

                            The Italians are not a menace so it's a nice opportunity to try a few new players, particularly in midfield where no perfect combination has been found so far, at lock where PPP and Vai'i could show what they are able to do, and at THP where Lomax could gain more confidence.
                            Aidan Ross is the form LHP and could start from the bench.
                            I am hesitating between Havili and Tupaea at second five. The latter is beginning to develop strongly while Havili is a talented all round player.

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                            • C cgrant

                              Team I'd like to see vs Italy :

                              J. Barrett
                              Jordan
                              P. Umaga-Jensen
                              Tupaea
                              Clarke
                              Mo'unga
                              Smith
                              A. Ioane
                              Papali'i
                              Robinson
                              Parkinson
                              Vai'i
                              Lomax
                              Taylor
                              Moody

                              Sub :
                              Aumua
                              Ross
                              Laulala
                              Whitelock
                              A. Savea
                              Weber
                              R. Ioane
                              McKenzie / Havili

                              The Italians are not a menace so it's a nice opportunity to try a few new players, particularly in midfield where no perfect combination has been found so far, at lock where PPP and Vai'i could show what they are able to do, and at THP where Lomax could gain more confidence.
                              Aidan Ross is the form LHP and could start from the bench.
                              I am hesitating between Havili and Tupaea at second five. The latter is beginning to develop strongly while Havili is a talented all round player.

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                              #124

                              @cgrant haaa I didn't read the bit about "against Italy" and was about to shit the bed.

                              I'd take Havili, but otherwise looks pretty interesting.

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                                Team I'd like to see vs Italy :

                                J. Barrett
                                Jordan
                                P. Umaga-Jensen
                                Tupaea
                                Clarke
                                Mo'unga
                                Smith
                                A. Ioane
                                Papali'i
                                Robinson
                                Parkinson
                                Vai'i
                                Lomax
                                Taylor
                                Moody

                                Sub :
                                Aumua
                                Ross
                                Laulala
                                Whitelock
                                A. Savea
                                Weber
                                R. Ioane
                                McKenzie / Havili

                                The Italians are not a menace so it's a nice opportunity to try a few new players, particularly in midfield where no perfect combination has been found so far, at lock where PPP and Vai'i could show what they are able to do, and at THP where Lomax could gain more confidence.
                                Aidan Ross is the form LHP and could start from the bench.
                                I am hesitating between Havili and Tupaea at second five. The latter is beginning to develop strongly while Havili is a talented all round player.

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                                @cgrant oh wait no Weber can take a hike, get in a young buck. Weber pulls out 1 or 2 great games a year for the chiefs and gets in in the back of that usually.

                                Roe or AN Other.

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                                • C cgrant

                                  Team I'd like to see vs Italy :

                                  J. Barrett
                                  Jordan
                                  P. Umaga-Jensen
                                  Tupaea
                                  Clarke
                                  Mo'unga
                                  Smith
                                  A. Ioane
                                  Papali'i
                                  Robinson
                                  Parkinson
                                  Vai'i
                                  Lomax
                                  Taylor
                                  Moody

                                  Sub :
                                  Aumua
                                  Ross
                                  Laulala
                                  Whitelock
                                  A. Savea
                                  Weber
                                  R. Ioane
                                  McKenzie / Havili

                                  The Italians are not a menace so it's a nice opportunity to try a few new players, particularly in midfield where no perfect combination has been found so far, at lock where PPP and Vai'i could show what they are able to do, and at THP where Lomax could gain more confidence.
                                  Aidan Ross is the form LHP and could start from the bench.
                                  I am hesitating between Havili and Tupaea at second five. The latter is beginning to develop strongly while Havili is a talented all round player.

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                                  @cgrant I would like that post for content but can’t because you listed the XV back to front with the bench correctly 😉

                                  Some good ideas there. Not sure about the all blue loose trio though. Need to see how some of these guys play nicely with others

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                                  • C cgrant

                                    Team I'd like to see vs Italy :

                                    J. Barrett
                                    Jordan
                                    P. Umaga-Jensen
                                    Tupaea
                                    Clarke
                                    Mo'unga
                                    Smith
                                    A. Ioane
                                    Papali'i
                                    Robinson
                                    Parkinson
                                    Vai'i
                                    Lomax
                                    Taylor
                                    Moody

                                    Sub :
                                    Aumua
                                    Ross
                                    Laulala
                                    Whitelock
                                    A. Savea
                                    Weber
                                    R. Ioane
                                    McKenzie / Havili

                                    The Italians are not a menace so it's a nice opportunity to try a few new players, particularly in midfield where no perfect combination has been found so far, at lock where PPP and Vai'i could show what they are able to do, and at THP where Lomax could gain more confidence.
                                    Aidan Ross is the form LHP and could start from the bench.
                                    I am hesitating between Havili and Tupaea at second five. The latter is beginning to develop strongly while Havili is a talented all round player.

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                                    mofitzy_
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                                    #127

                                    @cgrant
                                    Will never happen. I completely understand your logic but the big risk is that team doesn't click and loses to Italy .

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                                      What's the Italian scrum like now? That used to be their only real strength.

                                      Let's see how Lomax goes today but he has plateaued in my eyes.

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                                      • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                        What's the Italian scrum like now? That used to be their only real strength.

                                        Let's see how Lomax goes today but he has plateaued in my eyes.

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                                        @bovidae really? He had the better of both Tu’unukuafe and Hodgman last week. It’s not surprising that he somehow always scrums better when he has IWL behind him though.

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                                        • mofitzy_M mofitzy_

                                          @cgrant
                                          Will never happen. I completely understand your logic but the big risk is that team doesn't click and loses to Italy .

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                                          @mofitzy_ said in All Blacks 2021:

                                          @cgrant
                                          Will never happen. I completely understand your logic but the big risk is that team doesn't click and loses to Italy .

                                          Also even if they play awesome, what did it prove? An NZ second XV can beat Italy, No shit, the crusaders, blues (reds and brumbies) would beat Italy ATM. The only way to really see if players are test level is being part of a real test, and that's why you never see too many of them at once

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