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  • CrucialC Crucial

    So this whole wasted discussion was based on The Breakdown talking shite?

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    @crucial said in All Blacks 2021:

    So this whole wasted discussion was based on The Breakdown talking shite?

    @mariner4life FIFE

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      https://www.rugbypass.com/news/sir-john-kirwan-calls-for-beauden-barrett-and-brodie-retallick-to-be-benched-by-all-blacks-and-urges-nzr-to-not-re-sign-tj-perenara/

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        https://www.rugbypass.com/news/sir-john-kirwan-calls-for-beauden-barrett-and-brodie-retallick-to-be-benched-by-all-blacks-and-urges-nzr-to-not-re-sign-tj-perenara/

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        @tim far out. His analysis skills are limited, and showed up in his coaching.

        He is an incredible human being, but I would prise the commentary microphone out of his hand. Coasting on reputation.

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        • nzzpN nzzp

          @tim far out. His analysis skills are limited, and showed up in his coaching.

          He is an incredible human being, but I would prise the commentary microphone out of his hand. Coasting on reputation.

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          @nzzp said in All Blacks 2021:

          @tim far out. His analysis skills are limited, and showed up in his coaching.

          He is an incredible human being, but I would prise the commentary microphone out of his hand. Coasting on reputation.

          Obviously one of my favourite players, but have to agree.

          These breaks for opportunities for the players is how we are keeping the best players in NZ. It's a compromise, and if you start being punitive about it they will just leave and not come back.

          How would that help the All Blacks?

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          • nzzpN nzzp

            @tim far out. His analysis skills are limited, and showed up in his coaching.

            He is an incredible human being, but I would prise the commentary microphone out of his hand. Coasting on reputation.

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            @nzzp said in All Blacks 2021:

            @tim far out. His analysis skills are limited, and showed up in his coaching.

            He is an incredible human being, but I would prise the commentary microphone out of his hand. Coasting on reputation.

            If you read the whole thing what he said makes more sense.

            The rancid bait of saying that BB and BBBR shouldn't come straight back in was a tool to push his barrow about Japanese rugby and how we should open our rugby borders to them and be able to select from within those borders.
            Should BB and BBBR automatically start? Not really. Depends on if they are coming in straight off easy games or not. In the 23 to get used to things again for sure. I'm sure that the coaches won't be selecting them on reputation alone.
            As for TJ, it's his opinion that we are in a place with halfbacks to secure the services of a couple of players for the same price as re-signing him. Considering that he is only a backup player anyway I can see some logic there. Let's get a backup going that will take over from Nugget eventually.

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              JK is definitely sounding a bit Abe Simpson on this one. Didn’t he fuck off and play overseas on a regular basis ?

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              • CrucialC Crucial

                @nzzp said in All Blacks 2021:

                @tim far out. His analysis skills are limited, and showed up in his coaching.

                He is an incredible human being, but I would prise the commentary microphone out of his hand. Coasting on reputation.

                If you read the whole thing what he said makes more sense.

                The rancid bait of saying that BB and BBBR shouldn't come straight back in was a tool to push his barrow about Japanese rugby and how we should open our rugby borders to them and be able to select from within those borders.
                Should BB and BBBR automatically start? Not really. Depends on if they are coming in straight off easy games or not. In the 23 to get used to things again for sure. I'm sure that the coaches won't be selecting them on reputation alone.
                As for TJ, it's his opinion that we are in a place with halfbacks to secure the services of a couple of players for the same price as re-signing him. Considering that he is only a backup player anyway I can see some logic there. Let's get a backup going that will take over from Nugget eventually.

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                @crucial That backup was meant to be Fakatava, but then he got injured. I haven't seen any other young player who is of the same level as Fakatava.

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                • MN5M MN5

                  JK is definitely sounding a bit Abe Simpson on this one. Didn’t he fuck off and play overseas on a regular basis ?

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                  @mn5 said in All Blacks 2021:

                  JK is definitely sounding a bit Abe Simpson on this one. Didn’t he fuck off and play overseas on a regular basis ?

                  He played league FFS!

                  Like I said though. The headlines make no sense but he used them to grab attention to the real points he was making. Typical media tactic now days.
                  The odd person might watch the show now because they think they might hear something controversial. Instead they will just hear rambling opinions.
                  They could just come here for that.

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                  • StargazerS Stargazer

                    @crucial That backup was meant to be Fakatava, but then he got injured. I haven't seen any other young player who is of the same level as Fakatava.

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                    @stargazer after NPC last year I would have had Nock up there, different player to Fakatava, but was probably right behind him as form 9s of NPC.

                    But he hasnt really fired up this season, and with him, Christie and Ruru playing musical chairs at the Blues, I dont expect any of them to get a real chance to put up thier hands.

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                    • StargazerS Stargazer

                      @crucial That backup was meant to be Fakatava, but then he got injured. I haven't seen any other young player who is of the same level as Fakatava.

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                      @stargazer said in All Blacks 2021:

                      @crucial That backup was meant to be Fakatava, but then he got injured. I haven't seen any other young player who is of the same level as Fakatava.

                      Nor have I but would I make TJ a low short term offer in order to have the money to offer Fakatava a long term one plus room to add in A.Nother?
                      Yep.

                      What's Taufa Funaki doing progression wise? He was one for the future wasn't he?

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                      • CrucialC Crucial

                        @mn5 said in All Blacks 2021:

                        JK is definitely sounding a bit Abe Simpson on this one. Didn’t he fuck off and play overseas on a regular basis ?

                        He played league FFS!

                        Like I said though. The headlines make no sense but he used them to grab attention to the real points he was making. Typical media tactic now days.
                        The odd person might watch the show now because they think they might hear something controversial. Instead they will just hear rambling opinions.
                        They could just come here for that.

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                        @crucial said in All Blacks 2021:

                        @mn5 said in All Blacks 2021:

                        JK is definitely sounding a bit Abe Simpson on this one. Didn’t he fuck off and play overseas on a regular basis ?

                        He played league FFS!

                        Like I said though. The headlines make no sense but he used them to grab attention to the real points he was making. Typical media tactic now days.
                        The odd person might watch the show now because they think they might hear something controversial. Instead they will just hear rambling opinions.
                        They could just come here for that.

                        Oh so I’m outraged without reading the article properly?

                        Jeez, I’ve become the very thing I hate

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                        • MN5M MN5

                          @crucial said in All Blacks 2021:

                          @mn5 said in All Blacks 2021:

                          JK is definitely sounding a bit Abe Simpson on this one. Didn’t he fuck off and play overseas on a regular basis ?

                          He played league FFS!

                          Like I said though. The headlines make no sense but he used them to grab attention to the real points he was making. Typical media tactic now days.
                          The odd person might watch the show now because they think they might hear something controversial. Instead they will just hear rambling opinions.
                          They could just come here for that.

                          Oh so I’m outraged without reading the article properly?

                          Jeez, I’ve become the very thing I hate

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                          @mn5 said in All Blacks 2021:

                          @crucial said in All Blacks 2021:

                          @mn5 said in All Blacks 2021:

                          JK is definitely sounding a bit Abe Simpson on this one. Didn’t he fuck off and play overseas on a regular basis ?

                          He played league FFS!

                          Like I said though. The headlines make no sense but he used them to grab attention to the real points he was making. Typical media tactic now days.
                          The odd person might watch the show now because they think they might hear something controversial. Instead they will just hear rambling opinions.
                          They could just come here for that.

                          Oh so I’m outraged without reading the article properly?

                          Jeez, I’ve become the very thing I hate

                          and it's taken you how many years to realise?

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                            TJ Perenera was poor for the ABs last year. Big personality, lots of experience, but I would be using 2021 to blood younger Half Backs instead.

                            BBBR and BB should clearly be part of the AB squad and leadership group once available. Class acts both.

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                            • sparkyS sparky

                              TJ Perenera was poor for the ABs last year. Big personality, lots of experience, but I would be using 2021 to blood younger Half Backs instead.

                              BBBR and BB should clearly be part of the AB squad and leadership group once available. Class acts both.

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                              @sparky yeah he was great for the canes, as playmaking nine, but was average for ABs. A few cool moments of turnovers and such - he's really good at that, but shite service.

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                                Has the AB fixture list for 2021 been released yet?

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                                  Has the AB fixture list for 2021 been released yet?

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                                  @sparky Nope.

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                                  • StargazerS Stargazer

                                    @sparky Nope.

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                                    @stargazer I got an invite yesterday from a sponsor for a Barbarians game against Samoa that is happening at the end of November at Twickenham. Very strange that the NZRU can't reveal anything much about tests that are set to happen in July, August and September.

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                                    • sparkyS sparky

                                      @stargazer I got an invite yesterday from a sponsor for a Barbarians game against Samoa that is happening at the end of November at Twickenham. Very strange that the NZRU can't reveal anything much about tests that are set to happen in July, August and September.

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                                      @sparky That may have to do with COVID and the resulting uncertainty about fixtures in that window.

                                      The latest info is here: https://www.forum.thesilverfern.com/post/559974

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                                      • StargazerS Stargazer

                                        @sparky That may have to do with COVID and the resulting uncertainty about fixtures in that window.

                                        The latest info is here: https://www.forum.thesilverfern.com/post/559974

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                                        @stargazer said in All Blacks 2021:

                                        @sparky That may have to do with COVID and the resulting uncertainty about fixtures in that window.

                                        The latest info is here: https://www.forum.thesilverfern.com/post/559974

                                        The rest of the world has COVID and is making arrangements.

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                                        • sparkyS sparky

                                          @stargazer said in All Blacks 2021:

                                          @sparky That may have to do with COVID and the resulting uncertainty about fixtures in that window.

                                          The latest info is here: https://www.forum.thesilverfern.com/post/559974

                                          The rest of the world has COVID and is making arrangements.

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                                          @sparky Who says NZR isn't? Making arrangements and making announcements about the (desired) outcome of those arrangements are entirely different things.

                                          Anyway, wrong thread. 🙂

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