EPL 2020/2021

Bovidae

Atletico Madrid too.

sparky

What a shambles. The whole fiasco remains me of the failed coup against Gorbachev in August 1991, although that made it through three and half days before collapsing.

dogmeat

From Jordan Henderson (and others)

dogmeat

So there were six English breakaway clubs. 13 EPL clubs have issued a statement condemning their move.

Who is / was sitting on the fence?

gt12

Dead in the water. What a huge cock up.

mofitzy_

Amazing to me that with so much money behind it, it could still be executed so poorly.

Bovidae

This demonstrates the arrogance of the US owners, and the likes of Perez and Agnelli.

Kiwiwomble

this is crazy, had they done no research into how their fans might react, are they honestly that arrogant?

all theyve ended up doing is taint their brand a little

mofitzy_

Spanish clubs are broke, Italians are fading into irrelevance on a European level, and Americans can't comprehend relegation. This could end doing a lot of damage and good in football.

Kiwiwomble

i dont know enough about the other leagues so i can only talking about the EPL....when was the last time any of the big 6 got close to relegation?

canefan

@mofitzy_ said in EPL 2020/2021:

Amazing to me that with so much money behind it, it could still be executed so poorly.

Yeah, definitely gave them far too much credit

dogmeat

@kiwiwomble All except City have been in since the beginning. They were in the 3rd tier as recently as 1999

Kiwiwomble

@dogmeat so not since they got they're current backer, these owners are either paranoid or they are tired of paying for a good squad and wanted to be able to ease off investment

mofitzy_

It's more about not being in Champions league than relegation from the PL, La Liga etc. Pay-outs are also tiered based on position too.

dogmeat

@kiwiwomble I think they thought they could get a bigger piece of a bigger pie.

However they were obviously relying on pay per view as both Amazon and Sky said they weren't interested in TV rights.

So appealing to the Netflix generation and as has been said probably East and SE Asia more than Europe.

Bovidae

@kiwiwomble said in EPL 2020/2021:

i dont know enough about the other leagues so i can only talking about the EPL....when was the last time any of the big 6 got close to relegation?

As @mofitzy_ says, it's not so much relegation from your domestic league that is the motivation behind this, but not being an automatic qualifier for the CL (top 4 in EPL). Playing in the CL brings in money which allows you to make a profit and strengthen your squad. The rich would just get richer.

Kiwiwomble

in other good news Wimbledon have now won four on the trot and scored 14, not yet safe but putting up a bloody good fight, fourth in the form table

this whole debacle might make a lot of fans look at things like the "german model" or fan owned models like us

Bovidae

Arsenal, Liverpool, Manchester United and Tottenham have joined Chelsea and Manchester City in signalling their intention to withdraw from the European Super League.
The announcement on Sunday by the 12 clubs to form a breakaway Super League prompted a furious backlash across the continent.

The grovelling has begun.

https://www.eurosport.com/football/premier-league/2020-2021/all-six-premier-league-clubs-withdraw-from-european-super-league_sto8282646/story.shtml

Kiwiwomble

@bovidae :cat_face_with_tears_of_joy:

They've folded so quickly!

Paekakboyz

really has a feel of ... oh wait, you don't have a plan for the backlash? shit, we hadn't thought about that either! ummm, how about Chelsea, do you think they have a plan? ooooh so no one knows jack shit aside from the owners.... ah, yeah. That's going to be a tad problematic.

Pull out!!

The Silver Fern

EPL 2020/2021