Pasifika SR team

[nostrildamus]

@mofitzy_ said in Pasifika SR team:

If it isn't based in a PI nation, it's a NZ team. Calling NZ-born players PI players is disingenuous, or you are opening a massive can of worms.

Speaking of a can of worms, NZ is a collection of Pacific Islands.
https://teara.govt.nz/en/pacific-islands-and-new-zealand/print

As you were..

[Stargazer]

I just read that Tim Nanai-Williams' contract with Clermont expires at the end of the Top 14 season and is unlikely to be re-signed. Maybe they should try getting him back, as he's capped by Samoa. Surely he still has a few seasons in him?

[mikedogz]

Sila Puafisi is a player that could play for this team. Back playing in NZ playing for Karaka. Counties Junior, played for Ta$man then overseas to Scotland, England, France. 27 Caps for Tonga. Tighthead Prop. Likely to play for Counties.

[Crucial]

@stargazer said in Pasifika SR team:

I just read that Tim Nanai-Williams' contract with Clermont expires at the end of the Top 14 season and is unlikely to be re-signed. Maybe they should try getting him back, as he's capped by Samoa. Surely he still has a few seasons in him?

Had him in my earlier possibles list.

[junior]

@kirwan said in Pasifika SR team:

@mariner4life said in Pasifika SR team:

@rapido firstly Totai, how was your experience playing for Tonga? Love it did you? Honoured to represent them were you?

Secondly, i honestly could not have given a single fuck if Fekitoa, Frizzel and Fifita played for Tonga over NZ. Not one single solitary fuck.

Lomu?

You mean the NZ born and raised, Jonah Lomu?

[Machpants]

@junior said in Pasifika SR team:

@kirwan said in Pasifika SR team:

@mariner4life said in Pasifika SR team:

@rapido firstly Totai, how was your experience playing for Tonga? Love it did you? Honoured to represent them were you?

Secondly, i honestly could not have given a single fuck if Fekitoa, Frizzel and Fifita played for Tonga over NZ. Not one single solitary fuck.

Lomu?

You mean the NZ born and raised, Jonah Lomu?

Ah but, according to a lot of media and PI supporters out there, NZ born and bred comes after PI heritage in which team they should play for

[maxwell]

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[antipodean]

@maxwell NZR simply can't help digging holes for itself. It's about time we simply stepped back and said we're not seeking to be paternalistic in our relationships, you manage your own affairs and suffer the consequences.

[maxwell]

@antipodean absolutely.

All the island unions had to do since professionalism - was rightly or wrongly, copy the NZ model. No rocket science involved, just get organised and copy everything from competition models to educational resource pathways and documentation.

The web made all that info accessible from S&C to skill development to coach education. Instead what we get is finger-pointing, corruption and self-interest at every corner.

[Derpus]

@nzzp I don't think it's really necessary for the NZ teams to remain as strong as they are. Actually, it's probably better if they are diluted somewhat. As it stands they'll be on an even footing with about 2 of the Aus teams. They'll smoke everyone else, including Drua and whatever cobbled together MP team turns out.

That's only looking at SRTT as an end in itself (which, hopefully, it is). Hard to say what the flow on effects will be to the All Blacks and NZ rugby generally.

[Nepia]

@maxwell said in Pasifika SR team:

@antipodean absolutely.

All the island unions had to do since professionalism - was rightly or wrongly, copy the NZ model. No rocket science involved, just get organised and copy everything from competition models to educational resource pathways and documentation.

The web made all that info accessible from S&C to skill development to coach education. Instead what we get is finger-pointing, corruption and self-interest at every corner.

Are you being serious? None of the Islands, even all of the Islands together, have the infrastructure to just straight up copy the NZ model.

[antipodean]

@nepia said in Pasifika SR team:

@maxwell said in Pasifika SR team:

@antipodean absolutely.

All the island unions had to do since professionalism - was rightly or wrongly, copy the NZ model. No rocket science involved, just get organised and copy everything from competition models to educational resource pathways and documentation.

The web made all that info accessible from S&C to skill development to coach education. Instead what we get is finger-pointing, corruption and self-interest at every corner.

Are you being serious? None of the Islands, even all of the Islands together, have the infrastructure to just straight up copy the NZ model.

Appropriately scaled. Governance is a good one to start with.

[maxwell]

@nepia What don't they have?

[Tim]

https://www.rugbypass.com/news/picking-a-moana-pasifika-xv-of-players-coming-off-contract-in-2021/

[Stargazer]

@tim Way too many Wallabies and ABs capped players. Also very high average age.

[Bones]

@tim I thought Kane Le’aupepe has retired (injured)?

[Stargazer]

@bones Yes, he has. :man_facepalming_medium_skin_tone:

[Derpus]

@tim Toomua has signed on with Rebels & RA until after the 2023 RWC.

A better pick would have been Naisarani who's off contract and reportedly doubled his salary somewhere, though i suppose he would be more likely to play for Drua.

[mariner4life]

@tim i am dumber for reading that

[Crucial]

@mariner4life said in Pasifika SR team:

@tim i am dumber for reading that

Yeah, some crazy stuff in that wish list. However the next tier of possibilities has some good names to take note of given their contract situations. Tony Pulu for instance. For that matter what about Augie Pulu? Both filling in in Oz when they could come back home.