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All Blacks 2021

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  • sparkyS sparky

    Got my feet up post-jab, having a guess at the team for the first test in the light of recent injuries

    1. Joe Moody (if he can recover in time)
    2. Codie Taylor
    3. Nepo Lualala
    4. Sam Whitelock
    5. Brodie Retallick
    6. Akira Ioane
    7. Dalton Papali'i
    8. Hoskins Sotutu
    9. Aaron Smith
    10. Damien McKenzie
    11. Caleb Clarke (Maybe Leicester F)
    12. David Havili
    13. Anton Leinert-Brown
    14. Will Jordan
    15. Jordie Barrett
    16. Asafa Aumua
    17. Alex Hodgman
    18. Ofa T
    19. Scott Barrett
    20. Shannon Frizell (Ardie Savea if fit in time)
    21. Brad Weber
    22. Beauden Barrett (could be Richie Mo'unga)
    23. Reiko Ioane

    Think we will be better than everyone apart from the Boks and perhaps the French.

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    @sparky said in All Blacks 2021:

    Got my feet up post-jab, having a guess at the team for the first test in the light of recent injuries

    1. Joe Moody (if he can recover in time)
    2. Codie Taylor
    3. Nepo Lualala
    4. Sam Whitelock
    5. Brodie Retallick
    6. Akira Ioane
    7. Dalton Papali'i
    8. Hoskins Sotutu
    9. Aaron Smith
    10. Damien McKenzie
    11. Caleb Clarke (Maybe Leicester F)
    12. David Havili
    13. Anton Leinert-Brown
    14. Will Jordan
    15. Jordie Barrett
    16. Asafa Aumua
    17. Alex Hodgman
    18. Ofa T
    19. Scott Barrett
    20. Shannon Frizell (Ardie Savea if fit in time)
    21. Brad Weber
    22. Beauden Barrett (could be Richie Mo'unga)
    23. Reiko Ioane

    Think we will be better than everyone apart from the Boks and perhaps the French.

    That 10 pick doesn't give me great confidence..

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    • BonesB Bones

      @sparky said in All Blacks 2021:

      @act-crusader said in All Blacks 2021:

      @sparky said in All Blacks 2021:

      @bones Loose Forward trio nothing like as good as when we had Kaino/McCaw/Read, not enough depth at Half Back and in the midfield, but the ABs have lots of very good players available and should be highly competitive this year

      Get stuffed. We can leave that tag line for the Wallabies....

      I think the ABs will beat them by 40+ points again sometime this year.

      Do we play Italy following any wallabies games? Because you might just have sealed our first ever loss.

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      @bones said in All Blacks 2021:

      @sparky said in All Blacks 2021:

      @act-crusader said in All Blacks 2021:

      @sparky said in All Blacks 2021:

      @bones Loose Forward trio nothing like as good as when we had Kaino/McCaw/Read, not enough depth at Half Back and in the midfield, but the ABs have lots of very good players available and should be highly competitive this year

      Get stuffed. We can leave that tag line for the Wallabies....

      I think the ABs will beat them by 40+ points again sometime this year.

      Do we play Italy following any wallabies games? Because you might just have sealed our first ever loss.

      Really not going to happen. Don't be silly.

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      • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

        @sparky said in All Blacks 2021:

        Got my feet up post-jab, having a guess at the team for the first test in the light of recent injuries

        1. Joe Moody (if he can recover in time)
        2. Codie Taylor
        3. Nepo Lualala
        4. Sam Whitelock
        5. Brodie Retallick
        6. Akira Ioane
        7. Dalton Papali'i
        8. Hoskins Sotutu
        9. Aaron Smith
        10. Damien McKenzie
        11. Caleb Clarke (Maybe Leicester F)
        12. David Havili
        13. Anton Leinert-Brown
        14. Will Jordan
        15. Jordie Barrett
        16. Asafa Aumua
        17. Alex Hodgman
        18. Ofa T
        19. Scott Barrett
        20. Shannon Frizell (Ardie Savea if fit in time)
        21. Brad Weber
        22. Beauden Barrett (could be Richie Mo'unga)
        23. Reiko Ioane

        Think we will be better than everyone apart from the Boks and perhaps the French.

        That 10 pick doesn't give me great confidence..

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        @nostrildamus Think DMac's distribution and option-taking at 10 is getting better and better. At 10 behind a strong pack he could be a star.

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          how much had DMac played at 10 this year?

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          • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

            how much had DMac played at 10 this year?

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            Stargazer
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            @kiwiwomble One start and a some second half moves. I'd definitely not select him at 10 ahead of Mo'unga or BB.

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              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300286124/super-rugby-all-black-joe-moody-requires-surgery-out-for-up-to-five-months

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              • TimT Tim

                https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300286124/super-rugby-all-black-joe-moody-requires-surgery-out-for-up-to-five-months

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                @tim said in All Blacks 2021:

                https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300286124/super-rugby-all-black-joe-moody-requires-surgery-out-for-up-to-five-months

                Bugger.

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                  Aidan Ross as the 3rd LH prop in the AB squad for me.

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                  • BovidaeB Bovidae

                    Aidan Ross as the 3rd LH prop in the AB squad for me.

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                    #317

                    Atu Moli must be close to returning?

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                    • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                      @sparky said in All Blacks 2021:

                      Got my feet up post-jab, having a guess at the team for the first test in the light of recent injuries

                      1. Joe Moody (if he can recover in time)
                      2. Codie Taylor
                      3. Nepo Lualala
                      4. Sam Whitelock
                      5. Brodie Retallick
                      6. Akira Ioane
                      7. Dalton Papali'i
                      8. Hoskins Sotutu
                      9. Aaron Smith
                      10. Damien McKenzie
                      11. Caleb Clarke (Maybe Leicester F)
                      12. David Havili
                      13. Anton Leinert-Brown
                      14. Will Jordan
                      15. Jordie Barrett
                      16. Asafa Aumua
                      17. Alex Hodgman
                      18. Ofa T
                      19. Scott Barrett
                      20. Shannon Frizell (Ardie Savea if fit in time)
                      21. Brad Weber
                      22. Beauden Barrett (could be Richie Mo'unga)
                      23. Reiko Ioane

                      Think we will be better than everyone apart from the Boks and perhaps the French.

                      That 10 pick doesn't give me great confidence..

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                      • sparkyS sparky

                        Got my feet up post-jab, having a guess at the team for the first test in the light of recent injuries

                        1. Joe Moody (if he can recover in time)
                        2. Codie Taylor
                        3. Nepo Lualala
                        4. Sam Whitelock
                        5. Brodie Retallick
                        6. Akira Ioane
                        7. Dalton Papali'i
                        8. Hoskins Sotutu
                        9. Aaron Smith
                        10. Damien McKenzie
                        11. Caleb Clarke (Maybe Leicester F)
                        12. David Havili
                        13. Anton Leinert-Brown
                        14. Will Jordan
                        15. Jordie Barrett
                        16. Asafa Aumua
                        17. Alex Hodgman
                        18. Ofa T
                        19. Scott Barrett
                        20. Shannon Frizell (Ardie Savea if fit in time)
                        21. Brad Weber
                        22. Beauden Barrett (could be Richie Mo'unga)
                        23. Reiko Ioane

                        Think we will be better than everyone apart from the Boks and perhaps the French.

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                        Canes4life
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                        @sparky if Ardie’s fit he’s at 7, plain and simple.

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                        • BovidaeB Bovidae

                          Aidan Ross as the 3rd LH prop in the AB squad for me.

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                          ploughboy
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                          @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

                          Aidan Ross as the 3rd LH prop in the AB squad for me.

                          who is your three i would have him higher

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                          • P ploughboy

                            @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

                            Aidan Ross as the 3rd LH prop in the AB squad for me.

                            who is your three i would have him higher

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                            @ploughboy said in All Blacks 2021:

                            @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

                            Aidan Ross as the 3rd LH prop in the AB squad for me.

                            who is your three i would have him higher

                            Based on last year Foster and co will select Hodgman and Tu'inukuafe. Then it's between Bower (an injury replacement last year), Ross and maybe Johnstone as Moody's replacement. Johnstone is only just returning from a long concussion-related layoff so likely Ross vs Bower.

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                              Atu Moli must be close to returning?

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                              Bovidae
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                              @frye said in All Blacks 2021:

                              Atu Moli must be close to returning?

                              Moli has only just started playing club rugby so the Chiefs might be targeting SR-TT for his return. He hasn't played in over a year.

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                              • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                @ploughboy said in All Blacks 2021:

                                @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

                                Aidan Ross as the 3rd LH prop in the AB squad for me.

                                who is your three i would have him higher

                                Based on last year Foster and co will select Hodgman and Tu'inukuafe. Then it's between Bower (an injury replacement last year), Ross and maybe Johnstone as Moody's replacement. Johnstone is only just returning from a long concussion-related layoff so likely Ross vs Bower.

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                                @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

                                @ploughboy said in All Blacks 2021:

                                @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

                                Aidan Ross as the 3rd LH prop in the AB squad for me.

                                who is your three i would have him higher

                                Based on last year Foster and co will select Hodgman and Tu'inukuafe. Then it's between Bower (an injury replacement last year), Ross and maybe Johnstone as Moody's replacement. Johnstone is only just returning from a long concussion-related layoff so likely Ross vs Bower.

                                My thoughts are that Ross needs to beat Tu'inukuafe or Hodgman for a spot as Bower will be seen as the cover for both sides (who will be competing more against Moli when he's fit).

                                That said, I would still like to see him selected just to see how he goes.

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                                  @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

                                  @ploughboy said in All Blacks 2021:

                                  @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

                                  Aidan Ross as the 3rd LH prop in the AB squad for me.

                                  who is your three i would have him higher

                                  Based on last year Foster and co will select Hodgman and Tu'inukuafe. Then it's between Bower (an injury replacement last year), Ross and maybe Johnstone as Moody's replacement. Johnstone is only just returning from a long concussion-related layoff so likely Ross vs Bower.

                                  My thoughts are that Ross needs to beat Tu'inukuafe or Hodgman for a spot as Bower will be seen as the cover for both sides (who will be competing more against Moli when he's fit).

                                  That said, I would still like to see him selected just to see how he goes.

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                                  Bovidae
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                                  @bobily2 The (supposed) ability to play LH/TH was only important last year with the travel restrictions. That isn't really a factor this year, and Ofa has been used previously as a LH too. I'd prefer they just selected the best specialists and reward current form.

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                                  • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                    @ploughboy said in All Blacks 2021:

                                    @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

                                    Aidan Ross as the 3rd LH prop in the AB squad for me.

                                    who is your three i would have him higher

                                    Based on last year Foster and co will select Hodgman and Tu'inukuafe. Then it's between Bower (an injury replacement last year), Ross and maybe Johnstone as Moody's replacement. Johnstone is only just returning from a long concussion-related layoff so likely Ross vs Bower.

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                                    @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

                                    @ploughboy said in All Blacks 2021:

                                    @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

                                    Aidan Ross as the 3rd LH prop in the AB squad for me.

                                    who is your three i would have him higher

                                    Based on last year Foster and co will select Hodgman and Tu'inukuafe. Then it's between Bower (an injury replacement last year), Ross and maybe Johnstone as Moody's replacement. Johnstone is only just returning from a long concussion-related layoff so likely Ross vs Bower.

                                    for me with moody gone its a between Tu'inukuafe and ross for top spot and hodgman a distant third

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                                    • TimT Tim

                                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300286124/super-rugby-all-black-joe-moody-requires-surgery-out-for-up-to-five-months

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                                      @tim downvote

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                                        @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

                                        @ploughboy said in All Blacks 2021:

                                        @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

                                        Aidan Ross as the 3rd LH prop in the AB squad for me.

                                        who is your three i would have him higher

                                        Based on last year Foster and co will select Hodgman and Tu'inukuafe. Then it's between Bower (an injury replacement last year), Ross and maybe Johnstone as Moody's replacement. Johnstone is only just returning from a long concussion-related layoff so likely Ross vs Bower.

                                        for me with moody gone its a between Tu'inukuafe and ross for top spot and hodgman a distant third

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                                        Bovidae
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                                        @ploughboy said in All Blacks 2021:

                                        for me with moody gone its a between Tu'inukuafe and ross for top spot and hodgman a distant third

                                        I was just listing which props I think will be selected, not the pecking order within the squad. Agree that Hodgman hasn't been as prominent this year. Ofa was poor yesterday as well.

                                        Tu'inukuafe and Laulala would be my starters.

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                                          @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

                                          @ploughboy said in All Blacks 2021:

                                          @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

                                          Aidan Ross as the 3rd LH prop in the AB squad for me.

                                          who is your three i would have him higher

                                          Based on last year Foster and co will select Hodgman and Tu'inukuafe. Then it's between Bower (an injury replacement last year), Ross and maybe Johnstone as Moody's replacement. Johnstone is only just returning from a long concussion-related layoff so likely Ross vs Bower.

                                          for me with moody gone its a between Tu'inukuafe and ross for top spot and hodgman a distant third

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                                          family man
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                                          @ploughboy I’ve really been impressed with Xavier numia! Not sure his scrummaging is up to it though but his work rate is fantastic

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