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  • TimT Tim

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300286124/super-rugby-all-black-joe-moody-requires-surgery-out-for-up-to-five-months

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      @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

      @ploughboy said in All Blacks 2021:

      @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

      Aidan Ross as the 3rd LH prop in the AB squad for me.

      who is your three i would have him higher

      Based on last year Foster and co will select Hodgman and Tu'inukuafe. Then it's between Bower (an injury replacement last year), Ross and maybe Johnstone as Moody's replacement. Johnstone is only just returning from a long concussion-related layoff so likely Ross vs Bower.

      for me with moody gone its a between Tu'inukuafe and ross for top spot and hodgman a distant third

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      @ploughboy said in All Blacks 2021:

      for me with moody gone its a between Tu'inukuafe and ross for top spot and hodgman a distant third

      I was just listing which props I think will be selected, not the pecking order within the squad. Agree that Hodgman hasn't been as prominent this year. Ofa was poor yesterday as well.

      Tu'inukuafe and Laulala would be my starters.

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        @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

        @ploughboy said in All Blacks 2021:

        @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

        Aidan Ross as the 3rd LH prop in the AB squad for me.

        who is your three i would have him higher

        Based on last year Foster and co will select Hodgman and Tu'inukuafe. Then it's between Bower (an injury replacement last year), Ross and maybe Johnstone as Moody's replacement. Johnstone is only just returning from a long concussion-related layoff so likely Ross vs Bower.

        for me with moody gone its a between Tu'inukuafe and ross for top spot and hodgman a distant third

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        @ploughboy I’ve really been impressed with Xavier numia! Not sure his scrummaging is up to it though but his work rate is fantastic

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          @ploughboy I’ve really been impressed with Xavier numia! Not sure his scrummaging is up to it though but his work rate is fantastic

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          @family-man his scrummaging is fine, he’s been solid all season (apart from the most recent game). Just needs more weight behind him.

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            @family-man his scrummaging is fine, he’s been solid all season (apart from the most recent game). Just needs more weight behind him.

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            @canes4life said in All Blacks 2021:

            @family-man his scrummaging is fine, he’s been solid all season (apart from the most recent game). Just needs more weight behind him.

            Hit the squat rack?

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              @canes4life said in All Blacks 2021:

              @family-man his scrummaging is fine, he’s been solid all season (apart from the most recent game). Just needs more weight behind him.

              Hit the squat rack?

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              @pakman we have to remember that Numia is still only 22 so he’s doing a good job for his age IMO. He’s held his own against numerous AB props who are a lot more mature. Put a little bit of size on him and get bigger locks to help push and he could be a real weapon.

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                https://www.rugbypass.com/news/split-loyalties-may-yet-play-a-part-with-key-all-blacks-off-contract-beyond-2021/

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                • BovidaeB Bovidae

                  @bobily2 The (supposed) ability to play LH/TH was only important last year with the travel restrictions. That isn't really a factor this year, and Ofa has been used previously as a LH too. I'd prefer they just selected the best specialists and reward current form.

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                  @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

                  @bobily2 The (supposed) ability to play LH/TH was only important last year with the travel restrictions. That isn't really a factor this year, and Ofa has been used previously as a LH too. I'd prefer they just selected the best specialists and reward current form.

                  It's been important in years prior to 2020, too (we only took 5 props to the 2019 RWC) . If I remember, the All Black selectors tried Tu'inukuafe at tighthead once or twice before last year, despite him never playing SR there. I imagine it was them testing whether he could be a long-term option as their dual-sided prop.

                  I agree that it is increasingly becoming less important (especially as tournament squad allowances increase over time) , but I think there is still some relevance, particular in situations where travel restrictions are one lockdown away from changing.

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                  • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                    @pakman we have to remember that Numia is still only 22 so he’s doing a good job for his age IMO. He’s held his own against numerous AB props who are a lot more mature. Put a little bit of size on him and get bigger locks to help push and he could be a real weapon.

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                    @canes4life Scrafton is the lock packing behind Numia for the Canes, not the much-criticised Blackwell.

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                    • BovidaeB Bovidae

                      @canes4life Scrafton is the lock packing behind Numia for the Canes, not the much-criticised Blackwell.

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                      @bovidae nah it's Blackwell isn't it? Blackwell was in the 4 jersey against the Chiefs...

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                        @bovidae nah it's Blackwell isn't it? Blackwell was in the 4 jersey against the Chiefs...

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                        @canes4life said in All Blacks 2021:

                        @bovidae nah it's Blackwell isn't it? Blackwell was in the 4 jersey against the Chiefs...

                        Nope. I watched the game today. Blackwell is on the TH side and Scrafton on the LH side.

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                          @canes4life said in All Blacks 2021:

                          @bovidae nah it's Blackwell isn't it? Blackwell was in the 4 jersey against the Chiefs...

                          Nope. I watched the game today. Blackwell is on the TH side and Scrafton on the LH side.

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                          @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

                          @canes4life said in All Blacks 2021:

                          @bovidae nah it's Blackwell isn't it? Blackwell was in the 4 jersey against the Chiefs...

                          Nope. I watched the game today. Blackwell is on the TH side and Scrafton on the LH side.

                          It was prity obvious the difference once iwl came on though. Having a smaller backrow doesn't help either

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                            This team vs italy in the first game?:

                            1. Karl Tu'inukuafe

                            2. Codie Taylor

                            3. Nepo Laulala

                            4. Tupou Vai'i

                            5. Sam Whitelock 'C'

                            6. Shannon Frizzell

                            7. Dalton Papalii

                            8. Hoskins Sotutu

                            9. Aaron Smith

                            10. Richie Moanga

                            11. Caleb Clarke

                            12. Anton Lenert-Brown

                            13. Reiko Ioane

                            14. Sevu Reece

                            15. Jordie Barrett

                            16. Dane Coles

                            17. Ofa Tuungafasi

                            18. Alex Hogman

                            19. Scott Barrett

                            20. Ethan Blackadder

                            21. Brad Webber

                            22. Damian Mackenzie

                            23. Will Jordan

                            Given that it's our first of the year they will play their best team

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                              And then vs Fiji:

                              1. Alex Hogman

                              2. Codie Taylor

                              3. Ofa Tuungafasi

                              4. Patrick Tuipulotu

                              5. Sam Whitelock 'C'

                              6. Ethan Blackadder

                              7. Dalton Papalii

                              8. Hoskins Sotutu

                              9. Aaron Smith

                              10. Josh Ioane

                              11. Lester Fianganuku

                              12. Anton Lenert-Brown

                              13. Reiko Ioane

                              14. George Bridge

                              15. Damian McKenzie

                              16. Adian Ross

                              17. Afaso Aumua

                              18. Tyrel Lomax

                              19. Brodie Retalick (not sure if they will pick him)

                              20. Akira Ioane

                              21. Luke Cambell (only half decent young halfback I can think of)

                              22. Beauden Barrett ( ditto retalick)

                              23. Will Jordan

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                                And then vs Fiji:

                                1. Alex Hogman

                                2. Codie Taylor

                                3. Ofa Tuungafasi

                                4. Patrick Tuipulotu

                                5. Sam Whitelock 'C'

                                6. Ethan Blackadder

                                7. Dalton Papalii

                                8. Hoskins Sotutu

                                9. Aaron Smith

                                10. Josh Ioane

                                11. Lester Fianganuku

                                12. Anton Lenert-Brown

                                13. Reiko Ioane

                                14. George Bridge

                                15. Damian McKenzie

                                16. Adian Ross

                                17. Afaso Aumua

                                18. Tyrel Lomax

                                19. Brodie Retalick (not sure if they will pick him)

                                20. Akira Ioane

                                21. Luke Cambell (only half decent young halfback I can think of)

                                22. Beauden Barrett ( ditto retalick)

                                23. Will Jordan

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                                @mackerzzzz that front row has the potential to all be sent off.

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                                  And then vs Fiji:

                                  1. Alex Hogman

                                  2. Codie Taylor

                                  3. Ofa Tuungafasi

                                  4. Patrick Tuipulotu

                                  5. Sam Whitelock 'C'

                                  6. Ethan Blackadder

                                  7. Dalton Papalii

                                  8. Hoskins Sotutu

                                  9. Aaron Smith

                                  10. Josh Ioane

                                  11. Lester Fianganuku

                                  12. Anton Lenert-Brown

                                  13. Reiko Ioane

                                  14. George Bridge

                                  15. Damian McKenzie

                                  16. Adian Ross

                                  17. Afaso Aumua

                                  18. Tyrel Lomax

                                  19. Brodie Retalick (not sure if they will pick him)

                                  20. Akira Ioane

                                  21. Luke Cambell (only half decent young halfback I can think of)

                                  22. Beauden Barrett ( ditto retalick)

                                  23. Will Jordan

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                                  @mackerzzzz No love for Jacobson? Using only one 7 when we need to get some backup going there?

                                  I would be looking at giving Boshier a run off the bench at some time and Sotutu needs to have some competition to see if that gets him out of his below 2020 performances.

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                                    And then vs Fiji:

                                    1. Alex Hogman

                                    2. Codie Taylor

                                    3. Ofa Tuungafasi

                                    4. Patrick Tuipulotu

                                    5. Sam Whitelock 'C'

                                    6. Ethan Blackadder

                                    7. Dalton Papalii

                                    8. Hoskins Sotutu

                                    9. Aaron Smith

                                    10. Josh Ioane

                                    11. Lester Fianganuku

                                    12. Anton Lenert-Brown

                                    13. Reiko Ioane

                                    14. George Bridge

                                    15. Damian McKenzie

                                    16. Adian Ross

                                    17. Afaso Aumua

                                    18. Tyrel Lomax

                                    19. Brodie Retalick (not sure if they will pick him)

                                    20. Akira Ioane

                                    21. Luke Cambell (only half decent young halfback I can think of)

                                    22. Beauden Barrett ( ditto retalick)

                                    23. Will Jordan

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                                    @mackerzzzz said in All Blacks 2021:

                                    And then vs Fiji:

                                    1. Alex Hogman

                                    2. Codie Taylor

                                    3. Ofa Tuungafasi

                                    4. Patrick Tuipulotu

                                    5. Sam Whitelock 'C'

                                    6. Ethan Blackadder

                                    7. Dalton Papalii

                                    8. Hoskins Sotutu

                                    9. Aaron Smith

                                    10. Josh Ioane

                                    11. Lester Fianganuku

                                    12. Anton Lenert-Brown

                                    13. Reiko Ioane

                                    14. George Bridge

                                    15. Damian McKenzie

                                    16. Adian Ross

                                    17. Afaso Aumua

                                    18. Tyrel Lomax

                                    19. Brodie Retalick (not sure if they will pick him)

                                    20. Akira Ioane

                                    21. Luke Cambell (only half decent young halfback I can think of)

                                    22. Beauden Barrett ( ditto retalick)

                                    23. Will Jordan

                                    You know there’s massive potential for a shit season when you have the name Blackadder in the six jersey.

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                                    • MN5M MN5

                                      @mackerzzzz said in All Blacks 2021:

                                      And then vs Fiji:

                                      1. Alex Hogman

                                      2. Codie Taylor

                                      3. Ofa Tuungafasi

                                      4. Patrick Tuipulotu

                                      5. Sam Whitelock 'C'

                                      6. Ethan Blackadder

                                      7. Dalton Papalii

                                      8. Hoskins Sotutu

                                      9. Aaron Smith

                                      10. Josh Ioane

                                      11. Lester Fianganuku

                                      12. Anton Lenert-Brown

                                      13. Reiko Ioane

                                      14. George Bridge

                                      15. Damian McKenzie

                                      16. Adian Ross

                                      17. Afaso Aumua

                                      18. Tyrel Lomax

                                      19. Brodie Retalick (not sure if they will pick him)

                                      20. Akira Ioane

                                      21. Luke Cambell (only half decent young halfback I can think of)

                                      22. Beauden Barrett ( ditto retalick)

                                      23. Will Jordan

                                      You know there’s massive potential for a shit season when you have the name Blackadder in the six jersey.

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                                      @mn5 said in All Blacks 2021:

                                      @mackerzzzz said in All Blacks 2021:

                                      And then vs Fiji:

                                      1. Alex Hogman

                                      2. Codie Taylor

                                      3. Ofa Tuungafasi

                                      4. Patrick Tuipulotu

                                      5. Sam Whitelock 'C'

                                      6. Ethan Blackadder

                                      7. Dalton Papalii

                                      8. Hoskins Sotutu

                                      9. Aaron Smith

                                      10. Josh Ioane

                                      11. Lester Fianganuku

                                      12. Anton Lenert-Brown

                                      13. Reiko Ioane

                                      14. George Bridge

                                      15. Damian McKenzie

                                      16. Adian Ross

                                      17. Afaso Aumua

                                      18. Tyrel Lomax

                                      19. Brodie Retalick (not sure if they will pick him)

                                      20. Akira Ioane

                                      21. Luke Cambell (only half decent young halfback I can think of)

                                      22. Beauden Barrett ( ditto retalick)

                                      23. Will Jordan

                                      You know there’s massive potential for a shit season when you have the name Blackadder in the six jersey.

                                      Why? What's wrong with ethan?

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                                        @mn5 said in All Blacks 2021:

                                        @mackerzzzz said in All Blacks 2021:

                                        And then vs Fiji:

                                        1. Alex Hogman

                                        2. Codie Taylor

                                        3. Ofa Tuungafasi

                                        4. Patrick Tuipulotu

                                        5. Sam Whitelock 'C'

                                        6. Ethan Blackadder

                                        7. Dalton Papalii

                                        8. Hoskins Sotutu

                                        9. Aaron Smith

                                        10. Josh Ioane

                                        11. Lester Fianganuku

                                        12. Anton Lenert-Brown

                                        13. Reiko Ioane

                                        14. George Bridge

                                        15. Damian McKenzie

                                        16. Adian Ross

                                        17. Afaso Aumua

                                        18. Tyrel Lomax

                                        19. Brodie Retalick (not sure if they will pick him)

                                        20. Akira Ioane

                                        21. Luke Cambell (only half decent young halfback I can think of)

                                        22. Beauden Barrett ( ditto retalick)

                                        23. Will Jordan

                                        You know there’s massive potential for a shit season when you have the name Blackadder in the six jersey.

                                        Why? What's wrong with ethan?

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                                        @mackerzzzz Absolutely nothing.

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                                          @mn5 said in All Blacks 2021:

                                          @mackerzzzz said in All Blacks 2021:

                                          And then vs Fiji:

                                          1. Alex Hogman

                                          2. Codie Taylor

                                          3. Ofa Tuungafasi

                                          4. Patrick Tuipulotu

                                          5. Sam Whitelock 'C'

                                          6. Ethan Blackadder

                                          7. Dalton Papalii

                                          8. Hoskins Sotutu

                                          9. Aaron Smith

                                          10. Josh Ioane

                                          11. Lester Fianganuku

                                          12. Anton Lenert-Brown

                                          13. Reiko Ioane

                                          14. George Bridge

                                          15. Damian McKenzie

                                          16. Adian Ross

                                          17. Afaso Aumua

                                          18. Tyrel Lomax

                                          19. Brodie Retalick (not sure if they will pick him)

                                          20. Akira Ioane

                                          21. Luke Cambell (only half decent young halfback I can think of)

                                          22. Beauden Barrett ( ditto retalick)

                                          23. Will Jordan

                                          You know there’s massive potential for a shit season when you have the name Blackadder in the six jersey.

                                          Why? What's wrong with ethan?

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                                          @mackerzzzz said in All Blacks 2021:

                                          @mn5 said in All Blacks 2021:

                                          @mackerzzzz said in All Blacks 2021:

                                          And then vs Fiji:

                                          1. Alex Hogman

                                          2. Codie Taylor

                                          3. Ofa Tuungafasi

                                          4. Patrick Tuipulotu

                                          5. Sam Whitelock 'C'

                                          6. Ethan Blackadder

                                          7. Dalton Papalii

                                          8. Hoskins Sotutu

                                          9. Aaron Smith

                                          10. Josh Ioane

                                          11. Lester Fianganuku

                                          12. Anton Lenert-Brown

                                          13. Reiko Ioane

                                          14. George Bridge

                                          15. Damian McKenzie

                                          16. Adian Ross

                                          17. Afaso Aumua

                                          18. Tyrel Lomax

                                          19. Brodie Retalick (not sure if they will pick him)

                                          20. Akira Ioane

                                          21. Luke Cambell (only half decent young halfback I can think of)

                                          22. Beauden Barrett ( ditto retalick)

                                          23. Will Jordan

                                          You know there’s massive potential for a shit season when you have the name Blackadder in the six jersey.

                                          Why? What's wrong with ethan?

                                          I’m assuming he’s too slow for blindside, too small for lock and prone to shin splints.

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