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Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final

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  • SnowyS Snowy

    @rapido Yeah that was the reason for moving WTC to South Hampton. Has it's own hotel and training grounds so the players can be in their own bubble and still practice. The England matches aren't so easy.

    How many IPL players are in our test team apart from Kane, Trent, Kyle, maybe Santner? I haven't been watching it.

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    @snowy said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

    @rapido Yeah that was the reason for moving WTC to South Hampton. Has it's own hotel and training grounds so the players can be in their own bubble and still practice. The England matches aren't so easy.

    How many IPL players are in our test team apart from Kane, Trent, Kyle, maybe Santner? I haven't been watching it.

    That made me smile

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    • SnowyS Snowy

      @rapido Yeah that was the reason for moving WTC to South Hampton. Has it's own hotel and training grounds so the players can be in their own bubble and still practice. The England matches aren't so easy.

      How many IPL players are in our test team apart from Kane, Trent, Kyle, maybe Santner? I haven't been watching it.

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      @snowy said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

      @rapido Yeah that was the reason for moving WTC to South Hampton. Has it's own hotel and training grounds so the players can be in their own bubble and still practice. The England matches aren't so easy.

      How many IPL players are in our test team apart from Kane, Trent, Kyle, maybe Santner? I haven't been watching it.

      Yes, but things have changed since they made those arrangements.

      Countries, including UK and NZ, are stopping flights from India, and dis-allowing non-citizens travelling from India even when transiting through 3rd countries.

      Airlines, are pausing the flights. UAE stopped flights from India, Qatar still open at the moment.

      It can still be done, but, there will be a lot of furious paddling under the water going on at the moment to line this up.

      A political exception would have to be made if they do quarantine in UK (at Southampton) and at very least it won't be with rest of squad. It may have to be in a hotel in Doha, while they still can.

      https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-56806103

      India has been added to a โ€œred listโ€ of countries from which most travel to the UK is banned, over fears of a new Covid variant, the health secretary has said.

      From 04:00 BST on Friday 23 April, most people who have travelled from India in the last 10 days will be refused entry.

      British or Irish passport holders, or people with UK residence rights, will be allowed in but must quarantine in a government-approved hotel for 10 days.

      There's 3 weeks to go to end of round robin, a month to end of finals. Time for things to change, better, worse (or same).

      (Jamieson is other NZ test player with IPL contract, Matye CdG as well as fringe player, but I dunno - he's been injured, I also don't watch it).

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        From a Stuff article:

        New Zealand cricketers and support staff at the Indian Premier League:
        Players: Kane Williamson (Sunrisers Hyderabad), Trent Boult, Scott Kuggeleijn, Jimmy Neesham, Adam Milne (Mumbai Indians), Kyle Jamieson, Finn Allen (Royal Challengers Bangalore), Mitchell Santner (Chennai Super Kings), Lockie Ferguson, Tim Seifert (Kolkata Knight Riders).
        Staff: Stephen Fleming (CSK head coach), Brendon McCullum (KKR head coach), Mike Hesson (RCB director of cricket), Shane Bond (MI bowling coach), James Pamment (MI fielding coach), Kyle Mills (KKR bowling coach), Chris Donaldson (KKR strength and conditioning)

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        • HoorooH Hooroo

          @snowy said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

          @rapido Yeah that was the reason for moving WTC to South Hampton. Has it's own hotel and training grounds so the players can be in their own bubble and still practice. The England matches aren't so easy.

          How many IPL players are in our test team apart from Kane, Trent, Kyle, maybe Santner? I haven't been watching it.

          That made me smile

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          @hooroo said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

          @snowy said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

          @rapido Yeah that was the reason for moving WTC to South Hampton. Has it's own hotel and training grounds so the players can be in their own bubble and still practice. The England matches aren't so easy.

          How many IPL players are in our test team apart from Kane, Trent, Kyle, maybe Santner? I haven't been watching it.

          That made me smile

          South Hampton would be South South Peterborough I think.

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            The Chris Lynn solution ....

            Australia suspends flights from India; Chris Lynn hopes for post-IPL charter home

            "I texted back that as Cricket Australia make 10% of every IPL contract, was there a chance we could spend that money this year on a charter flight once the tournament is over?" Lynn told News Corp media.

            When asked specifically about the cricketers in India, Morrison said there would not be any preferential treatment if repatriation flights resumed later in May. The group stage of the IPL is due to finish on May 23 with the final on May 30.

            "This wasn't part of an Australian tour," he said. "They're under their own resources. And they'll be using those resources to, I'm sure, to see them return to Australia in accordance with their own arrangements."

            https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/ipl-2021-australia-suspends-flights-from-india-chris-lynn-hopes-for-post-ipl-charter-home-1261278

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            • CrucialC Crucial

              @hooroo said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

              @snowy said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

              @rapido Yeah that was the reason for moving WTC to South Hampton. Has it's own hotel and training grounds so the players can be in their own bubble and still practice. The England matches aren't so easy.

              How many IPL players are in our test team apart from Kane, Trent, Kyle, maybe Santner? I haven't been watching it.

              That made me smile

              South Hampton would be South South Peterborough I think.

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              @crucial said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

              @hooroo said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

              @snowy said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

              @rapido Yeah that was the reason for moving WTC to South Hampton. Has it's own hotel and training grounds so the players can be in their own bubble and still practice. The England matches aren't so easy.

              How many IPL players are in our test team apart from Kane, Trent, Kyle, maybe Santner? I haven't been watching it.

              That made me smile

              South Hampton would be South South Peterborough I think.

              Not quite sure why I did that. A flurry of rushed typing whilst trying to fix two computers and sort out a house.

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              • RapidoR Rapido

                I genuinely wonder how the NZers , and English and Indians, will get out of India and to England. How many options will be available by the time IPL ends?

                Where will they have to do quarantine?

                Logistical nightmare, some administrators will be earning their money.

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                @rapido said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                I genuinely wonder how the NZers , and English and Indians, will get out of India and to England. How many options will be available by the time IPL ends?

                Where will they have to do quarantine?

                Logistical nightmare, some administrators will be earning their money.

                There's no physical barrier though mate. All that's needed is someone to sign a document on a piece of paper. That's the extent and remedy of this natural disaster.

                Just use the one that exonerated Dominic Cummings for his girlfriend breach of lockdown last year.

                Besides, these guys are "bubbled" anyway.

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                  There literally is a physical barrier.

                  Unlike Cummings, these players (and your wife during lockdown , if I am not mixing up posters) can't just jump in their car and damn the consequences.

                  The thing that overcomes the physical barrier is being squeezed to one transit route. They'll need money and influence to squeeze through that in a timely manner. They'll need good luck with that that in the bureaucratic nightmare that is India when most of the rich dual citizens in a nation of 1.3 billion are trying to do the same thing.

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                  • RapidoR Rapido

                    There literally is a physical barrier.

                    Unlike Cummings, these players (and your wife during lockdown , if I am not mixing up posters) can't just jump in their car and damn the consequences.

                    The thing that overcomes the physical barrier is being squeezed to one transit route. They'll need money and influence to squeeze through that in a timely manner. They'll need good luck with that that in the bureaucratic nightmare that is India when most of the rich dual citizens in a nation of 1.3 billion are trying to do the same thing.

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                    @rapido of the little I know about India, I think that the chance that India can't get their players and 6 of the opposition to the first ever test final is pretty slim.

                    One plane and some beaurocratic favours.

                    Probably could find a plane for kohli et al rather than forfeit the final๐Ÿ˜‰

                    All the vitual pints in the world to you if covid19 stops India playing in a cricket world final๐Ÿ™‚

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                      I'm sure they will find a way for the final to go ahead. Or at absolute worse, a convenient delay and/or change of venue.

                      What will be quite interesting is to see how long it takes Adam Zampa and co to get back to Australia now...

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                      • DonsteppaD Donsteppa

                        I'm sure they will find a way for the final to go ahead. Or at absolute worse, a convenient delay and/or change of venue.

                        What will be quite interesting is to see how long it takes Adam Zampa and co to get back to Australia now...

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                        @donsteppa said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                        I'm sure they will find a way for the final to go ahead. Or at absolute worse, a convenient delay and/or change of venue.

                        What will be quite interesting is to see how long it takes Adam Zampa and co to get back to Australia now...

                        Chris Lynn's plane will be along any time...

                        It's inevitable that the BCCI will get the best fifteen Indian test players to England, but the best NZ players will be stuck there until October.

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                          It's fucking laughable that a player such as Lynn would go to a risky country such as India, make huge money for a few weeks playing fucking cricket and then suggest it's anyone else's responsibilty to get him home. What a fucking retard.

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                            It's fucking laughable that a player such as Lynn would go to a risky country such as India, make huge money for a few weeks playing fucking cricket and then suggest it's anyone else's responsibilty to get him home. What a fucking retard.

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                            @shark said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                            It's fucking laughable that a player such as Lynn would go to a risky country such as India, make huge money for a few weeks playing fucking cricket and then suggest it's anyone else's responsibilty to get him home. What a fucking retard.

                            I think he was joking as Cricket Australia clip the ticket for 10 percent. Doesn't leave as much ... tax, agent, Cricket Aus; probably paying over half the headline figure to other people

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                              @rapido said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                              There literally is a physical barrier.

                              Unlike Cummings, these players (and your wife during lockdown , if I am not mixing up posters) can't just jump in their car and damn the consequences.

                              The thing that overcomes the physical barrier is being squeezed to one transit route. They'll need money and influence to squeeze through that in a timely manner. They'll need good luck with that that in the bureaucratic nightmare that is India when most of the rich dual citizens in a nation of 1.3 billion are trying to do the same thing.

                              You can't be a dual citizen of anywhere if you hold an Indian passport.

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                              • TeWaioT TeWaio

                                @rapido said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                                There literally is a physical barrier.

                                Unlike Cummings, these players (and your wife during lockdown , if I am not mixing up posters) can't just jump in their car and damn the consequences.

                                The thing that overcomes the physical barrier is being squeezed to one transit route. They'll need money and influence to squeeze through that in a timely manner. They'll need good luck with that that in the bureaucratic nightmare that is India when most of the rich dual citizens in a nation of 1.3 billion are trying to do the same thing.

                                You can't be a dual citizen of anywhere if you hold an Indian passport.

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                                @tewaio said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                                You can't be a dual citizen of anywhere if you hold an Indian passport.

                                OCI for all practical purposes is the same thing no?

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                                  @tewaio said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                                  You can't be a dual citizen of anywhere if you hold an Indian passport.

                                  OCI for all practical purposes is the same thing no?

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                                  @rotated said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                                  @tewaio said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                                  You can't be a dual citizen of anywhere if you hold an Indian passport.

                                  OCI for all practical purposes is the same thing no?

                                  Yes as far as I know. I used to work with a lot of Indians. There are some restrictions on land ownership (farms or something) but mostly the same rights as a resident.
                                  I have permanent residency in Hong Kong the only thing that I can't do is run for government there, and given that I don't know the correct people over the border that would have been unlikely.

                                  The whole charter flight thing seems a bit daft. I haven't read that much about it but haven't Aus banned everyone from India? Or was he asking for an exemption to actually be allowed back in at all. The charter is an easy one and wouldn't be that expensive, aeroplanes lying around doing nothing everywhere at the moment.

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                                    Anyone else have success in the ballot? Got 6 gold tickets for Day 1, so Southampton bound with @Small-Flightless-Bird and others.

                                    Hope for better luck than the last final...

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                                    • TeWaioT TeWaio

                                      Anyone else have success in the ballot? Got 6 gold tickets for Day 1, so Southampton bound with @Small-Flightless-Bird and others.

                                      Hope for better luck than the last final...

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                                      @tewaio said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                                      Anyone else have success in the ballot? Got 6 gold tickets for Day 1, so Southampton bound with @Small-Flightless-Bird and others.

                                      Hope for better luck than the last final...

                                      A mate of mine in London didn't have any luck in the final ballot and nor did anyone he knows. Plus he got the boot from one of the England tests.

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                                        Sky has won the broadcasting rights for the final. Spark Sport will have daily highlights of the final and broadcast the NZ-England series.

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                                        • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                          Sky has won the broadcasting rights for the final. Spark Sport will have daily highlights of the final and broadcast the NZ-England series.

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                                          @bovidae said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                                          Sky has won the broadcasting rights for the final. Spark Sport will have daily highlights of the final and broadcast the NZ-England series.

                                          I thought Spark had the domestic rights and Sky had the BCs overseas?

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