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    Who will be the LH props ? Will Moody be fit ?
    I would select a youngster there. Hodgman and Tuinuku'afe were pretty disappointing last year and during the SRA. Ross and De Groot were the best LHP this year, while Norris was very good from the bench. Big Tamaiti Williams should convert to THP where the cupboard is rather bare (Laulala not worldclass, Tu'ungafasi a card magnet, Lomax and Ta'avao not good enough at scrum time). He is still a bit too young but he will be an All Black after the RWC, or maybe sooner.

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    • BonesB Bones

      @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:

      @bones yeah he did, Ioane as better bench player AND better in the starting position.

      That's an answer to a question that wasn't asked, reading helps 😃

      I'm still waiting to hear how someone can prove themselves by not playing.

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        @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:

        @bones
        You wrote: Hang on, I'm half wrong? Which bit?

        Not my fault if you asked 2 questions but only remember one..

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        • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

          @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:

          Havili and ALB look a natural pairing but I guess proof is in the pudding.

          Worth a run out at least - both Havili and ALB were excellent yesterday (as was Nankerville) , different styles of play and you can see it working well .

          Think Foster needs to have ALB nailed down on the team sheet and build the midfield around him. Don't want to him mucked about like last year (or get injured).

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          @victor-meldrew said in All Blacks 2021:

          @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:

          Havili and ALB look a natural pairing but I guess proof is in the pudding.

          Worth a run out at least - both Havili and ALB were excellent yesterday (as was Nankerville) , different styles of play and you can see it working well .

          Think Foster needs to have ALB nailed down on the team sheet and build the midfield around him. Don't want to him mucked about like last year (or get injured).

          Yeah I totally agree, ALB doesn't deserve to be mucked around just because they can't work out their midfield.

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          • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

            @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:

            @bones
            You wrote: Hang on, I'm half wrong? Which bit?

            Not my fault if you asked 2 questions but only remember one..

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            Bones
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            @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:

            @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:

            @bones
            You wrote: Hang on, I'm half wrong? Which bit?

            Not my fault if you asked 2 questions but only remember one..

            Well it's definitely not mine.

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            • BonesB Bones

              @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:

              @bones yeah he did, Ioane as better bench player AND better in the starting position.

              That's an answer to a question that wasn't asked, reading helps 😃

              I'm still waiting to hear how someone can prove themselves by not playing.

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              @bones said in All Blacks 2021:

              @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:

              @bones yeah he did, Ioane as better bench player AND better in the starting position.

              That's an answer to a question that wasn't asked, reading helps 😃

              I'm still waiting to hear how someone can prove themselves by not playing.

              Keith Robinson built a career and a legend on his lengthy and frequent absences.

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              • sharkS shark

                @bones said in All Blacks 2021:

                @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:

                @bones yeah he did, Ioane as better bench player AND better in the starting position.

                That's an answer to a question that wasn't asked, reading helps 😃

                I'm still waiting to hear how someone can prove themselves by not playing.

                Keith Robinson built a career and a legend on his lengthy and frequent absences.

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                @shark said in All Blacks 2021:

                @bones said in All Blacks 2021:

                @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:

                @bones yeah he did, Ioane as better bench player AND better in the starting position.

                That's an answer to a question that wasn't asked, reading helps 😃

                I'm still waiting to hear how someone can prove themselves by not playing.

                Keith Robinson built a career and a legend on his lengthy and frequent absences.

                Well yeah but he put Robin Brooke on his arse and was from The Aroha.

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                  • BonesB Bones

                    @frank said in All Blacks 2021:

                    @bones said in All Blacks 2021:

                    @frank said in All Blacks 2021:

                    @bones said in All Blacks 2021:

                    So off the back of SRA and considering injuries, I'm thinking I'd like to see given a go:
                    Frizzel
                    Papalii
                    Jacobson

                    With Ioane on the bench maybe. But then again Blackadder and Sanders have really put their hands up and of course there's Robinson...

                    I'd have Akira Ioane as a starter.
                    He's the incumbent.
                    Frizzel has to win back the spot by proving himself at international level, not just Super level.

                    How does one prove oneself by not playing? Interesting he's the incumbent on one game, guess Jordie is a shoe in for the wing!

                    Ioane is the much better bench player.

                    You're half right.
                    Ioane is the much better bench player AND starter.
                    Frizzel has had good Super rugby seasons and consistently failed to take the step up.
                    Ioane played great in both of his games for the ABs 2 from 2.
                    Frizzel is the one with something to prove at international level.

                    Hang on, I'm half wrong? Which bit?

                    You didn't answer the question.

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                    nostrildamus
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                    @bones said in All Blacks 2021:

                    @frank said in All Blacks 2021:

                    @bones said in All Blacks 2021:

                    @frank said in All Blacks 2021:

                    @bones said in All Blacks 2021:

                    So off the back of SRA and considering injuries, I'm thinking I'd like to see given a go:
                    Frizzel
                    Papalii
                    Jacobson

                    With Ioane on the bench maybe. But then again Blackadder and Sanders have really put their hands up and of course there's Robinson...

                    I'd have Akira Ioane as a starter.
                    He's the incumbent.
                    Frizzel has to win back the spot by proving himself at international level, not just Super level.

                    How does one prove oneself by not playing? Interesting he's the incumbent on one game, guess Jordie is a shoe in for the wing!

                    Ioane is the much better bench player.

                    *> > You're half right.

                    Ioane is the much better bench player AND starter.*
                    Frizzel has had good Super rugby seasons and consistently failed to take the step up.
                    Ioane played great in both of his games for the ABs 2 from 2.
                    Frizzel is the one with something to prove at international level.

                    > Hang on, I'm half wrong? Which bit?

                    You didn't answer the question.

                    Ok not question then, it was the question marks that fooled me.

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                    • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                      @bones said in All Blacks 2021:

                      @frank said in All Blacks 2021:

                      @bones said in All Blacks 2021:

                      @frank said in All Blacks 2021:

                      @bones said in All Blacks 2021:

                      So off the back of SRA and considering injuries, I'm thinking I'd like to see given a go:
                      Frizzel
                      Papalii
                      Jacobson

                      With Ioane on the bench maybe. But then again Blackadder and Sanders have really put their hands up and of course there's Robinson...

                      I'd have Akira Ioane as a starter.
                      He's the incumbent.
                      Frizzel has to win back the spot by proving himself at international level, not just Super level.

                      How does one prove oneself by not playing? Interesting he's the incumbent on one game, guess Jordie is a shoe in for the wing!

                      Ioane is the much better bench player.

                      *> > You're half right.

                      Ioane is the much better bench player AND starter.*
                      Frizzel has had good Super rugby seasons and consistently failed to take the step up.
                      Ioane played great in both of his games for the ABs 2 from 2.
                      Frizzel is the one with something to prove at international level.

                      > Hang on, I'm half wrong? Which bit?

                      You didn't answer the question.

                      Ok not question then, it was the question marks that fooled me.

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                      @nostrildamus you ok hun?

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                      • M Machpants

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                        @machpants said in All Blacks 2021:

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                        If we look at this and think about where we'd be with SL if we had such a result, what do we imagine is likely to happen?

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                        • gt12G gt12

                          @machpants said in All Blacks 2021:

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                          If we look at this and think about where we'd be with SL if we had such a result, what do we imagine is likely to happen?

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                          @gt12 said in All Blacks 2021:

                          @machpants said in All Blacks 2021:

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                          If we look at this and think about where we'd be with SL if we had such a result, what do we imagine is likely to happen?

                          The top two lines are where the value is supposed to go up - who knows. I have no idea if this is A) a good idea or B) going to happen. I just know NZ rugby needs some cash!

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                              nostrildamus
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                              @taniwharugby thank god for the hyphen, the 9 stock is looking a little bare.

                              The NZ Herald article starts "All Blacks superstar TJ Perenara"
                              Um. I like him actually, but as a player, AB superstar?
                              https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby-all-blacks-and-hurricanes-halfback-tj-perenara-re-signs-with-new-zealand-rugby-after-nrl-discussions/3AC6XWQNJJ4VCEMS65ZB45IOYE/
                              Perhaps they are alluding to his contracted fee...

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                                  Billy Tell
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                                  LF has to be in with a shot I reckon. Covers midfield and wing and brings Polynesian power. He’s been very impressive in recent games.

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                                  • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                                    LF has to be in with a shot I reckon. Covers midfield and wing and brings Polynesian power. He’s been very impressive in recent games.

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                                    Bones
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                                    @billy-tell yeah Ennor isn't poly is he so probably doesn't have poly power. Surely you can buy that at Langu's Island Styles though.

                                    Leicester and Rieko I'm happy to have in the squad to cover wing/13 with Havili and ALB as the starters. Nankivell bubbling under maybe. Ennor playing NPC.

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                                    • BonesB Bones

                                      @billy-tell yeah Ennor isn't poly is he so probably doesn't have poly power. Surely you can buy that at Langu's Island Styles though.

                                      Leicester and Rieko I'm happy to have in the squad to cover wing/13 with Havili and ALB as the starters. Nankivell bubbling under maybe. Ennor playing NPC.

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                                      @bones said in All Blacks 2021:

                                      @billy-tell yeah Ennor isn't poly is he so probably doesn't have poly power. Surely you can buy that at Langu's Island Styles though.

                                      Leicester and Rieko I'm happy to have in the squad to cover wing/13 with Havili and ALB as the starters. Nankivell bubbling under maybe. Ennor playing NPC.

                                      I rate ennor but he needs game time. NPC is perfect can come back next season

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                                        Crucial
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                                        My question at present is whether the selectors can continue to dismiss the Bosh.
                                        When you think that they selected Kirifi ahead of him it doesn't fill you with hope.

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                                          My question at present is whether the selectors can continue to dismiss the Bosh.
                                          When you think that they selected Kirifi ahead of him it doesn't fill you with hope.

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                                          Frye
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                                          An absolute plethora of backrow talent available right now. Even with Cane and Savea injured.

                                          I'd love to see Jacobson, Papali'i and Blackadder in the same backrow.

                                          Incredible that the likes of Frizzell, Ioane, Grace or Sotutu could miss out on a 23

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