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Klitschko, Fury, Parker, Takam & Joshua

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  • MiketheSnowM Offline
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    MiketheSnow
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    #295

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="JK" data-cid="571252" data-time="1460246371">
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    <p>Martin is a bum so difficult to read too much in to this</p>
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    </blockquote>
    <p> </p>
    <p>That may be so, but no denying Joshua's skill in dispatching him.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>I can't see Klitschko losing to Fury twice.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>So Joshua v Klitschko somewhere down the line for me.</p>

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    • MN5M Offline
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      #296

      <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="MiketheSnow" data-cid="571307" data-time="1460274055">
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      <p>That may be so, but no denying Joshua's skill in dispatching him.</p>
      <p> </p>
      <p>I can't see Klitschko losing to Fury twice.</p>
      <p> </p>
      <p>So Joshua v Klitschko somewhere down the line for me.</p>
      </div>
      </blockquote>
      <p> </p>
      <p>I couldn't see him losing to him once....but the fact is he is getting old so in my opinion faces the age old question that heaps of guys on the verge of being past it face.......</p>

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        #297

        <p>I think Furey has his number</p>
        <p>See it being another slow boring fight.</p>
        <p>Furey won't be keen on AJ or Haye for awhile prob more keen to fight Wilder as he sloppy suits Furey more</p>

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        • Baron Silas GreenbackB Offline
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          Baron Silas Greenback
          wrote on last edited by
          #298

          <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="JK" data-cid="571252" data-time="1460246371">
          <div>
          <p>Martin is a bum so difficult to read too much in to this</p>
          </div>
          </blockquote>
          <p> </p>
          <p> </p>
          <p>I know bugger all about boxing. But how is Martin a bum? Doesnt he have a very good record?</p>
          <p>What is the issue with him? Apart from being smacked by the same 'simple' punch 20 seconds apart?</p>

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            #299

            <p>Wladimir threw that last fight, its about money not legacy and his PPV numbers were dropping like a rock. Smartest play he could make to milk it a few more PPV events. Losing to the mega-mouth Fury. He will clean him up next time earning more respect in the long run also.</p>

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              Cookie
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              #300

              <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Baron Silas Greenback" data-cid="571382" data-time="1460281938"><p>I know bugger all about boxing. But how is Martin a bum? Doesnt he have a very good record?<br>
              What is the issue with him? Apart from being smacked by the same 'simple' punch 20 seconds apart?</p></blockquote>
              <br><br>
              Yep, not sure how he won the IBF title in the 1st place. I think it's more a case of the Joshua camp doing their homework. Martin seemed to lean in with his right jab and leave himself open to the Joshua right hook. I'm sure he's had this before, but maybe Joshua was a bit quicker than he has expecting

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              • kiwiinmelbK Offline
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                #301

                Joseph could have had Martin in NZ for the title , <br><br>
                The exact same offer was made to duco first , but they couldn't finance it

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                • MN5M Offline
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                  MN5
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                  #302

                  <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="meetthemonster" data-cid="571394" data-time="1460286913">
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                  <p>Wladimir threw that last fight, its about money not legacy and his PPV numbers were dropping like a rock. Smartest play he could make to milk it a few more PPV events. Losing to the mega-mouth Fury. He will clean him up next time earning more respect in the long run also.</p>
                  </div>
                  </blockquote>
                  <p> </p>
                  <p>Good luck proving that unequivocally. They said the same about Liston.....Johnson.....and any number of others.</p>
                  <p> </p>
                  <p>Could well be some truth though cos who actually gave Fury any chance at all before the fight ?</p>

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                    #303

                    <p>The loss has certainly added a lot of interest back into the division. It must have been hard to sell fights against Klitschko for good money after such a long dominance and no great challenger knocking on the door.</p>
                    <p>Would be a smart business move to ensure a return contest then lose. Even if Fury loses the title back again the fire has been lit and made things more interesting at the next level.</p>

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                      Cookie
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                      #304

                      My guess/prediction is that Wlad will regain the titles then retire. Which will make things interesting (if happens).

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                      • kiwiinmelbK Offline
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                        #305

                        If he wins back the titles , a fight with Joshua to unify the lot would be a massive money fight ,the biggest heavyweight fight we have seen for some time ,<br><br>I reckon something like that will be on the cards and Joseph will be pushed into the background.

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                          Cookie
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                          #306

                          It would be a great match up, but maybe too soon for Joshua. Just a hunch, but I think the Joshua camp would rather rush him into a fight with Fury than Wlad and I don't see Wlad hanging around too long to wait. Hope I'm wrong though.

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                            #307

                            In other boxing news, Golovkin makes mincemeat of previously unbeaten Wade. Pound for pound I can't think of a heavier puncher at the moment. Hands of concrete.

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                              <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Cookie" data-cid="574583" data-time="1461503145">
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                              <p>In other boxing news, Golovkin makes mincemeat of previously unbeaten Wade. Pound for pound I can't think of a heavier puncher at the moment. Hands of concrete.</p>
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                              <p>Ive been watching him for a couple years with great interest. Started as a gimmick and is now very, very real. Always been scary but now hes just mental. </p>
                              <p> </p>
                              <p>Canelo needs to grow a sack and stop ducking him.</p>

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                                Cookie
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                                #309

                                I think he fights Khan pretty soon, hopefully after that he can stop fighting lighter men and get it on!

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                                  MiketheSnow
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                                  May
                                  <p><b>7:</b> Las Vegas, USA, Amir Khan v Saul Alvarez (WBC middleweight)</p>

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                                    <p>There is talk  Canelo and Pacman could fight at junior middleweight , </p>
                                    <p> </p>
                                    <p>Be a massive payday for Canelo compared to a possible  triple G fight and could have something to do with stalls in negotiations for that one , </p>
                                    <p> </p>
                                    <p>Weight is the major stalling point in that match up  , Canelos camp  wants a catch weight , Triple g s camp are saying fight us at true middleweight and they cant come to an agreement. </p>
                                    <p> </p>
                                    <p>But with little happening for G , there are bigger  fights for him  if he moves up to super middleweight to fight the likes of Andre Ward etc. but they are showing little interest in that option , but may be forced to at some stage , if he wants to chase the money. </p>

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                                      #312

                                      <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="kiwiinmelb" data-cid="574828" data-time="1461610575">
                                      <div>
                                      <p>There is talk  Canelo and Pacman could fight at junior middleweight , </p>
                                      <p> </p>
                                      <p>Be a massive payday for Canelo compared to a possible  triple G fight and could have something to do with stalls in negotiations for that one , </p>
                                      <p> </p>
                                      <p>Weight is the major stalling point in that match up  , Canelos camp  wants a catch weight , Triple g s camp are saying fight us at true middleweight and they cant come to an agreement. </p>
                                      <p> </p>
                                      <p>But with little happening for G , there are bigger  fights for him  if he moves up to super middleweight to fight the likes of Andre Ward etc. but they are showing little interest in that option , but may be forced to at some stage , if he wants to chase the money. </p>
                                      </div>
                                      </blockquote>
                                      <p>This catch weight stuff is bullshit. Canelo has made a niche division for himself.</p>

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                                        kiwiinmelb
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                                        He's not the first , it's been happening for years , I don't mind so much if you have two fighters from different divisions meeting in the middle to make a fight happen and evening up any advantages.<br><br>
                                        But never for a title , if a belt is on the line , you should be made to fight under the proper weight of that title .<br><br>
                                        Danny green held a cruiser weight title and used to make his challenges fight at s catch weight when defending it , was ridiculous .

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                                          TeWaio
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                                          #314

                                          <p>Catch weights, waaaay too many different belts, ranking systems that are made up on the fly.</p>
                                          <p> </p>
                                          <p>Boxing sure does make it hard for the marginal fan to stay interested. </p>

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