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  • KirwanK Kirwan

    @kiwiwomble said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

    ok, i have a feeling this is a loaded question

    IF, we are committed to strickly a Trans Ta$man / Pacific comp....does that change anyones opinion on allowing AB qualified players playing for Aussie/PI teams?

    Theyre not lost to NZ fans, still playing in the same comp, but might distribute a little of the talent, make this thing more competitive, maybe still have to be signed with a NZ NPC team

    I'd be ok if Japan was involved somehow, and you had to be a senior All Black to "earn" the dispensation. But Aussies are already struggling with depth, playing NZ players wouldn't help that and we would just end up with NZers playing for Australia.

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    #194

    @kirwan Daniel Braid was arguably in career best form when he played for the Reds, but was ineligible for both ABs and Wobbs.

    I personally think there are grounds for a few marquee players to be given the option, especially if in the same comp as I think it would help the comp and the profile of the Aus/PI/Japanese team if this is where things go

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    • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

      ok, i have a feeling this is a loaded question

      IF, we are committed to strickly a Trans Ta$man / Pacific comp....does that change anyones opinion on allowing AB qualified players playing for Aussie/PI teams?

      Theyre not lost to NZ fans, still playing in the same comp, but might distribute a little of the talent, make this thing more competitive, maybe still have to be signed with a NZ NPC team

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      #195

      @kiwiwomble

      I don't think it would really do much. The kind of players Australia need are the ones that provide depth. Squad players who are pushing to make the first 15/get selected in the wider AB squad. You'd get maybe a handful of tenured ABs moving over, or guys who aren't good enough.

      Won't fix shit.

      I like the Champions Cup style format. That way the domestic comp can be what each country needs it to be locally (ideally in Aus that'd be something with a national footprint - say 10 teams). Then we can have a few games where the Kiwis rack up cricket scores against Japan or Aus opponents and pat themselves on the back for being the bestest.

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        @kiwiwomble

        I don't think it would really do much. The kind of players Australia need are the ones that provide depth. Squad players who are pushing to make the first 15/get selected in the wider AB squad. You'd get maybe a handful of tenured ABs moving over, or guys who aren't good enough.

        Won't fix shit.

        I like the Champions Cup style format. That way the domestic comp can be what each country needs it to be locally (ideally in Aus that'd be something with a national footprint - say 10 teams). Then we can have a few games where the Kiwis rack up cricket scores against Japan or Aus opponents and pat themselves on the back for being the bestest.

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        @derpus i wouldnt be adverse to that but i would want ours to be the NPC rather the SRA and most people are against that idea

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        • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

          @derpus i wouldnt be adverse to that but i would want ours to be the NPC rather the SRA and most people are against that idea

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          @kiwiwomble and if we follow a Champions Cup format we can just get on with our own shit without having to worry about what the other party is doing. You wanna go back to NPC? great, our best 2 can play the best 2 NPC teams.

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            Maybe we need the Trans Ta$man company first, then Aotearoa. It’s been a let down for me so far.

            Aussies are getting chewed up and spat out.

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            • KirwanK Kirwan

              Maybe we need the Trans Ta$man company first, then Aotearoa. It’s been a let down for me so far.

              Aussies are getting chewed up and spat out.

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              @kirwan said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

              Maybe we need the Trans Ta$man company first, then Aotearoa. It’s been a let down for me so far.

              Aussies are getting chewed up and spat out.

              If they are going come play with the big boys, five Aussie teams is far too many. They simply don't have the playing depth to compete.

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                #200

                Nine games gone. Nine Kiwis wins. Aussie teams looking out of their depth. This is going to be all about NZ teams can keep grinding out the winning bonus point to make the finalm

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                • NTAN NTA

                  @frye said in Force v Highlanders:

                  Almost like Australia would be better off with 3-4 teams...

                  Not really.

                  Better coaching and better systems would be more help.

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                  @nta said in Force v Highlanders:

                  @frye said in Force v Highlanders:

                  Almost like Australia would be better off with 3-4 teams...

                  Not really.

                  Better coaching and better systems would be more help.

                  Maybe, but in hindsight neither is it the height of arrogance, just to suggest it, that many thought it to be last year.

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                    #202

                    Ten games gone. Two weeks gone. No Aussie wins. A fair few hammerings. Format change needed before next year.

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                    • F Frye

                      @nta said in Force v Highlanders:

                      @frye said in Force v Highlanders:

                      Almost like Australia would be better off with 3-4 teams...

                      Not really.

                      Better coaching and better systems would be more help.

                      Maybe, but in hindsight neither is it the height of arrogance, just to suggest it, that many thought it to be last year.

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                      @frye ok let's shrink Australian Rugby, hand it a pistol, and just wait for it to shoot itself.

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                        Strictly.

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                          Sum of the parts and Oz have the players for a decent Wobbs side. But spread over 5 franchises? Nah. Only competitive amongst themselves.

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                            Blues and Canes the only teams in control of their destiny atm..... That's pretty silly 40% of the way thru a comp.

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                              There’s now added interest in this comp with the NZ teams 10-0. Who is going to crack first?

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                                @nta said in Force v Highlanders:

                                @frye ok let's shrink Australian Rugby, hand it a pistol, and just wait for it to shoot itself.

                                Hysterical response.

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                                  There’s now added interest in this comp with the NZ teams 10-0. Who is going to crack first?

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                                  @act-crusader I wonder what the odds are of NZ teams going unbeaten. Could very well happen.

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                                  • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                    There’s now added interest in this comp with the NZ teams 10-0. Who is going to crack first?

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                                    Stargazer
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                                    @act-crusader Unless the Force prove to be a banana skin again, I can only see the Brumbies or Reds beat NZ teams. This weekend, the Brumbies play the Blues in Auckland and the Reds play the Chiefs at home.

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                                    • sparkyS sparky

                                      Ten games gone. Two weeks gone. No Aussie wins. A fair few hammerings. Format change needed before next year.

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                                      @sparky format change? You mean just keep it as Super Aotearoa?

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                                      • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                        @sparky format change? You mean just keep it as Super Aotearoa?

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                                        @canes4life I may be wrong, but I think @sparky means that they should no longer first have a SRA and SR AU, followed by a SR TT.

                                        I don't think that's what it's going to be if we get a 12 team comp. I expect an 11 week round robin in which franchises play each other once, home or away, followed by a Final (maybe with semi-finals).

                                        IIRC, Australia still hasn't agreed to a comp with Fijian Drua and Moana Pasifika though.

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                                          @nta said in Force v Highlanders:

                                          @frye ok let's shrink Australian Rugby, hand it a pistol, and just wait for it to shoot itself.

                                          Hysterical response.

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                                          @frye it's already on life support in a lot of ways.

                                          We've shipped dozens of professional players overseas already. But sure, let's shrink the opportunities here further. That'll fix it. Hunnerdpahcent.

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