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  • KirwanK Kirwan

    Maybe we need the Trans Ta$man company first, then Aotearoa. It’s been a let down for me so far.

    Aussies are getting chewed up and spat out.

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    @kirwan said in Super Rugby Trans Ta$man:

    Maybe we need the Trans Ta$man company first, then Aotearoa. It’s been a let down for me so far.

    Aussies are getting chewed up and spat out.

    If they are going come play with the big boys, five Aussie teams is far too many. They simply don't have the playing depth to compete.

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      Nine games gone. Nine Kiwis wins. Aussie teams looking out of their depth. This is going to be all about NZ teams can keep grinding out the winning bonus point to make the finalm

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      • NTAN NTA

        @frye said in Force v Highlanders:

        Almost like Australia would be better off with 3-4 teams...

        Not really.

        Better coaching and better systems would be more help.

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        @nta said in Force v Highlanders:

        @frye said in Force v Highlanders:

        Almost like Australia would be better off with 3-4 teams...

        Not really.

        Better coaching and better systems would be more help.

        Maybe, but in hindsight neither is it the height of arrogance, just to suggest it, that many thought it to be last year.

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          Ten games gone. Two weeks gone. No Aussie wins. A fair few hammerings. Format change needed before next year.

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            @nta said in Force v Highlanders:

            @frye said in Force v Highlanders:

            Almost like Australia would be better off with 3-4 teams...

            Not really.

            Better coaching and better systems would be more help.

            Maybe, but in hindsight neither is it the height of arrogance, just to suggest it, that many thought it to be last year.

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            @frye ok let's shrink Australian Rugby, hand it a pistol, and just wait for it to shoot itself.

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              Strictly.

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                Sum of the parts and Oz have the players for a decent Wobbs side. But spread over 5 franchises? Nah. Only competitive amongst themselves.

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                  Blues and Canes the only teams in control of their destiny atm..... That's pretty silly 40% of the way thru a comp.

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                    There’s now added interest in this comp with the NZ teams 10-0. Who is going to crack first?

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                      @nta said in Force v Highlanders:

                      @frye ok let's shrink Australian Rugby, hand it a pistol, and just wait for it to shoot itself.

                      Hysterical response.

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                      • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                        There’s now added interest in this comp with the NZ teams 10-0. Who is going to crack first?

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                        @act-crusader I wonder what the odds are of NZ teams going unbeaten. Could very well happen.

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                        • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                          There’s now added interest in this comp with the NZ teams 10-0. Who is going to crack first?

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                          @act-crusader Unless the Force prove to be a banana skin again, I can only see the Brumbies or Reds beat NZ teams. This weekend, the Brumbies play the Blues in Auckland and the Reds play the Chiefs at home.

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                            Ten games gone. Two weeks gone. No Aussie wins. A fair few hammerings. Format change needed before next year.

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                            @sparky format change? You mean just keep it as Super Aotearoa?

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                              @sparky format change? You mean just keep it as Super Aotearoa?

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                              @canes4life I may be wrong, but I think @sparky means that they should no longer first have a SRA and SR AU, followed by a SR TT.

                              I don't think that's what it's going to be if we get a 12 team comp. I expect an 11 week round robin in which franchises play each other once, home or away, followed by a Final (maybe with semi-finals).

                              IIRC, Australia still hasn't agreed to a comp with Fijian Drua and Moana Pasifika though.

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                                @nta said in Force v Highlanders:

                                @frye ok let's shrink Australian Rugby, hand it a pistol, and just wait for it to shoot itself.

                                Hysterical response.

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                                @frye it's already on life support in a lot of ways.

                                We've shipped dozens of professional players overseas already. But sure, let's shrink the opportunities here further. That'll fix it. Hunnerdpahcent.

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                                  @frye it's already on life support in a lot of ways.

                                  We've shipped dozens of professional players overseas already. But sure, let's shrink the opportunities here further. That'll fix it. Hunnerdpahcent.

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                                  @nta said in Force v Highlanders:

                                  @frye it's already on life support in a lot of ways.

                                  We've shipped dozens of professional players overseas already. But sure, let's shrink the opportunities here further. That'll fix it. Hunnerdpahcent.

                                  It actually would, as part of a Comp with NZ and Pacific nations. Three strong teams that actually can compete, success would help bring fans and sponsors.

                                  Much better for the national team too.

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                                    Another option would be to add one or two NZ sides to weaken them. Not sure that ends up with a marketable product though.

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                                      The fact that it is only NZ vs Oz games makes the results more stark. A few years ago OZ teams were losing everything vs NZ, but it was interspersed by games against SA, Arg, Jpn, and other Ozzies - thus didn't look so bad.

                                      Even Razor is sad -

                                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300314478/super-rugby-scott-robertson-regrets-gulf-after-reds-rout-in-kiwi-clean-sweep

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                                      • KirwanK Kirwan

                                        Another option would be to add one or two NZ sides to weaken them. Not sure that ends up with a marketable product though.

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                                        @kirwan said in Force v Highlanders:

                                        Another option would be to add one or two NZ sides to weaken them. Not sure that ends up with a marketable product though.

                                        They're already planning on that with Moana P!

                                        And the Ozzie comp was compelling, so when you're all playing at a similar level it is not so bad.

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                                          @kirwan said in Force v Highlanders:

                                          Another option would be to add one or two NZ sides to weaken them. Not sure that ends up with a marketable product though.

                                          They're already planning on that with Moana P!

                                          And the Ozzie comp was compelling, so when you're all playing at a similar level it is not so bad.

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                                          @machpants said in Force v Highlanders:

                                          @kirwan said in Force v Highlanders:

                                          Another option would be to add one or two NZ sides to weaken them. Not sure that ends up with a marketable product though.

                                          They're already planning on that with Moana P!

                                          And the Ozzie comp was compelling, so when you're all playing at a similar level it is not so bad.

                                          Yeah, certainly hides issues. The gap between playing NZ teams has them going backwards.

                                          We need Aussie to be strong for our sake. Definitely missing the Bok sides too

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