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NRL 2021

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    Wasn't there some hesitation about giving Hiku his current 1-yr contract extension?

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      and perhaps that was the final reason for signing, warriors only willing to offer +1 and not match the money for that, Cowboys 2

      eitherway gone end of year

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      • NepiaN Nepia

        @bayimports said in NRL 2021:

        ha ha.. I think as fans they owe us all some cash dont you think for still supporting?

        TBF they are the sports equivalent of the last few series of The Walking Dead I watched before giving up and I really am just hate watching at this stage. I have to watch so that I can complain each week. 😉

        To be completely honest, if I didn't have a mate in Sydney who messages me about the Warriors all the time I reckon my interest in league would have dwindled to just watching the NRL TV highlights each week and the Kiwis if they ever get to play. Too many things annoy me about league these days, mostly due to the Origin fixation.

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        @nepia said in NRL 2021:

        @bayimports said in NRL 2021:

        ha ha.. I think as fans they owe us all some cash dont you think for still supporting?

        TBF they are the sports equivalent of the last few series of The Walking Dead I watched before giving up and I really am just hate watching at this stage. I have to watch so that I can complain each week. 😉

        To be completely honest, if I didn't have a mate in Sydney who messages me about the Warriors all the time I reckon my interest in league would have dwindled to just watching the NRL TV highlights each week and the Kiwis if they ever get to play. Too many things annoy me about league these days, mostly due to the Origin fixation.

        My interest in League has died right off. I used to enjoy watching to see who the gun young Kiwis coming through were. Now with Tonga and Samoa grabbing a number of these players it's ruined it a bit for me. I got intrigued by a few players and looked forward to seeing them running out for the Kiwis against the Aussies but they jumped ship. Looking at you JT.

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          #651

          As someone critical of the concussion ignorance in the nrl, some dues are due for their efforts to fix things. Interesting the response is similar to union fans and followers but the leaguies have taken their medicine late and in a big dose.

          Been amusing watching pundits come to terms with it all

          Like rugby they'll come round over time and the cries of "taken the tough out of the game" will be replaced by "what a dumb tackle, no sympathy".

          Of course the real litmus test will be Oooorrigiiiin! Will they have the balls to remove the reason why anyone from outside the Oz Eastern coast watches it?

          'spose they'll have to.

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          • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

            the comp is so fucking one-sided

            Penrith and Melbourne are daylight ahead of everyone

            Parra, Manly, and maybe Souths in the next tier (although Souths have taken two appalling hidings recently)

            A losing record gets you to 7th on the ladder.

            The Dogs, Brisbane, The Tigers and Cronulla fucking stink. Newcastle are hammered by injuries, and stink, Canberra are awful.

            St George, the Titans, Warriors and Cowboys are all sort of middle of the road sides trying to make the 8 and go out straight away.

            It's not an open or even season, it's a long slog to the finals so one of the top 2 sides right now can win the GF. Origin will paper over some cracks.

            Also, how do you feel being the NSW selectors trying to pick the fullback?

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            @mariner4life said in NRL 2021:

            the comp is so fucking one-sided

            Penrith and Melbourne are daylight ahead of everyone

            Parra, Manly, and maybe Souths in the next tier (although Souths have taken two appalling hidings recently)

            A losing record gets you to 7th on the ladder.

            The Dogs, Brisbane, The Tigers and Cronulla fucking stink. Newcastle are hammered by injuries, and stink, Canberra are awful.

            St George, the Titans, Warriors and Cowboys are all sort of middle of the road sides trying to make the 8 and go out straight away.

            It's not an open or even season, it's a long slog to the finals so one of the top 2 sides right now can win the GF. Origin will paper over some cracks.

            Also, how do you feel being the NSW selectors trying to pick the fullback?

            I feel nothing. I'm a Queenslander and they can get fucked.

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            • SiamS Siam

              As someone critical of the concussion ignorance in the nrl, some dues are due for their efforts to fix things. Interesting the response is similar to union fans and followers but the leaguies have taken their medicine late and in a big dose.

              Been amusing watching pundits come to terms with it all

              Like rugby they'll come round over time and the cries of "taken the tough out of the game" will be replaced by "what a dumb tackle, no sympathy".

              Of course the real litmus test will be Oooorrigiiiin! Will they have the balls to remove the reason why anyone from outside the Oz Eastern coast watches it?

              'spose they'll have to.

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              @siam said in NRL 2021:

              As someone critical of the concussion ignorance in the nrl, some dues are due for their efforts to fix things. Interesting the response is similar to union fans and followers but the leaguies have taken their medicine late and in a big dose.

              Been amusing watching pundits come to terms with it all

              Like rugby they'll come round over time and the cries of "taken the tough out of the game" will be replaced by "what a dumb tackle, no sympathy".

              Of course the real litmus test will be Oooorrigiiiin! Will they have the balls to remove the reason why anyone from outside the Oz Eastern coast watches it?

              'spose they'll have to.

              I agree with you, I like the fact they have had the balls to go really hard at this given the core of their support is not ready for it. Long overdue and following slowly in rugby footsteps (if they dont back track). Origin will be interesting

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                Not a rugby league fan, so some may disagree with this take. However, I think league is a lot less complicated than rugby union. If you remove the big hits and intense physicality, there is a lot less "there".

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                  Not a rugby league fan, so some may disagree with this take. However, I think league is a lot less complicated than rugby union. If you remove the big hits and intense physicality, there is a lot less "there".

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                  @hydro11 in other news water is wet

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                    fuuuuuck, what a hot take

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                    • H hydro11

                      Not a rugby league fan, so some may disagree with this take. However, I think league is a lot less complicated than rugby union. If you remove the big hits and intense physicality, there is a lot less "there".

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                      @hydro11 said in NRL 2021:

                      Not a rugby league fan, so some may disagree with this take. However, I think league is a lot less complicated than rugby union. If you remove the big hits and intense physicality, there is a lot less "there".

                      I am an nrl fan and the above is exactly why people watch it

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                        @hydro11 said in NRL 2021:

                        Not a rugby league fan, so some may disagree with this take. However, I think league is a lot less complicated than rugby union. If you remove the big hits and intense physicality, there is a lot less "there".

                        I am an nrl fan and the above is exactly why people watch it

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                        @mackerzzzz said in NRL 2021:

                        @hydro11 said in NRL 2021:

                        Not a rugby league fan, so some may disagree with this take. However, I think league is a lot less complicated than rugby union. If you remove the big hits and intense physicality, there is a lot less "there".

                        I am an nrl fan and the above is exactly why people watch it

                        I’m scratching my head wondering who would think league is more complicated than union ?

                        If you can run hard, tackle hard and count to six ( even this isn’t necessary for every team member ) then you’re pretty much ready to play.

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                        • M Mackerzzzz

                          @hydro11 said in NRL 2021:

                          Not a rugby league fan, so some may disagree with this take. However, I think league is a lot less complicated than rugby union. If you remove the big hits and intense physicality, there is a lot less "there".

                          I am an nrl fan and the above is exactly why people watch it

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                          @mackerzzzz said in NRL 2021:

                          @hydro11 said in NRL 2021:

                          Not a rugby league fan, so some may disagree with this take. However, I think league is a lot less complicated than rugby union. If you remove the big hits and intense physicality, there is a lot less "there".

                          I am an nrl fan and the above is exactly why people watch it

                          Yes, I am not saying anyone disputes that rugby union has more facets to it. I am saying that since rugby league is so much more simple, the speed, intensity and physicality are more attractive features. Therefore, rugby league will suffer a lot more from a crackdown on head high tackles. You are removing one of the core elements of the game.

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                            I played both to fairly respectable levels and league is not a thinking man's game. I enjoyed playing it more looking back, but I'm not a thinking man..... But I did enjoy the finer darker arts of union.

                            I also think that people who disregard league as a thugs game without skill are fuckwits. Not that @hydro11 said that. But there is a fair level of hate leveled at league by union old boys. Nothing new it's been that way forever. I was in my 7th form year when it was finally allowed, to play league as well as union by my school. I had played league on the sly for years before and it was good to not have to hide. Seems so fucking stupid that it was banned the way it was by so many schools.

                            I remember being hammered by St Bernard's 1st XV 2 weeks previous to playing their league team. We smashed them(we won by 10...) lol and they had about 8 of their 1st string union guys playing.

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                              @mackerzzzz said in NRL 2021:

                              @hydro11 said in NRL 2021:

                              Not a rugby league fan, so some may disagree with this take. However, I think league is a lot less complicated than rugby union. If you remove the big hits and intense physicality, there is a lot less "there".

                              I am an nrl fan and the above is exactly why people watch it

                              Yes, I am not saying anyone disputes that rugby union has more facets to it. I am saying that since rugby league is so much more simple, the speed, intensity and physicality are more attractive features. Therefore, rugby league will suffer a lot more from a crackdown on head high tackles. You are removing one of the core elements of the game.

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                              @hydro11 that's implying that physicality can not be applied without head highs, isn't it?

                              As with anything NRL changes are made and changes aren't always held. I think what is likely to happen is a complete review of the sin bin system. They'll probably go with reports for accidental head contact with the shoulder and look at the ball carrying players position at he time of the contact. Did they unexpectedly lower their position etc. Head contact is not always the ticklers fault.

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                                @hydro11 that's implying that physicality can not be applied without head highs, isn't it?

                                As with anything NRL changes are made and changes aren't always held. I think what is likely to happen is a complete review of the sin bin system. They'll probably go with reports for accidental head contact with the shoulder and look at the ball carrying players position at he time of the contact. Did they unexpectedly lower their position etc. Head contact is not always the ticklers fault.

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                                @raznomore said in NRL 2021:

                                @hydro11 that's implying that physicality can not be applied without head highs, isn't it?

                                As with anything NRL changes are made and changes aren't always held. I think what is likely to happen is a complete review of the sin bin system. They'll probably go with reports for accidental head contact with the shoulder and look at the ball carrying players position at he time of the of contact. Did they unexpectedly lower their potion. Etc. Head contact is not always the ticklers fault.

                                The punishments do not eliminate contact with the head but they force players to think differently. Rugby union is now at the stage where any push after the whistle is a penalty reversal. Maybe that is a good thing but it is going to change SoO if that happens in league too.

                                I remember thinking it was great that Kidwell put a shoulder into Willie Mason after disrespecting the haka. That feels very 2006 these days. Interesting that that was only 15 years ago - attitudes have changed fast. I look back at rugby union and big hits just don't stand out to me?

                                League will always have things going for it which union won't. It is much faster and much simpler which some people are going to prefer. I think without players going for the big hits it will be at about the same physicality level as rugby union. I don't think rugby union has lost anything from the crackdown. The only bad thing is that yellow and red cards are given too often for my liking. I don't know if league fans will be able to say the same thing about league. :man_shrugging: up to league fans at the end of the day.

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                                  @raznomore said in NRL 2021:

                                  @hydro11 that's implying that physicality can not be applied without head highs, isn't it?

                                  As with anything NRL changes are made and changes aren't always held. I think what is likely to happen is a complete review of the sin bin system. They'll probably go with reports for accidental head contact with the shoulder and look at the ball carrying players position at he time of the of contact. Did they unexpectedly lower their potion. Etc. Head contact is not always the ticklers fault.

                                  The punishments do not eliminate contact with the head but they force players to think differently. Rugby union is now at the stage where any push after the whistle is a penalty reversal. Maybe that is a good thing but it is going to change SoO if that happens in league too.

                                  I remember thinking it was great that Kidwell put a shoulder into Willie Mason after disrespecting the haka. That feels very 2006 these days. Interesting that that was only 15 years ago - attitudes have changed fast. I look back at rugby union and big hits just don't stand out to me?

                                  League will always have things going for it which union won't. It is much faster and much simpler which some people are going to prefer. I think without players going for the big hits it will be at about the same physicality level as rugby union. I don't think rugby union has lost anything from the crackdown. The only bad thing is that yellow and red cards are given too often for my liking. I don't know if league fans will be able to say the same thing about league. :man_shrugging: up to league fans at the end of the day.

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                                  @hydro11 I still think we're disagreeing here. It sounds like you're saying there can not be big hits without head contact?

                                  The shoulder charge has been outlawed since 2012. It didn't mean an end to impressive tackling.

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                                    No doubt there will be some contributors from last century who will remember the exceptional Waikato rugby man then NRL winger and champion goal kicker Daryl Halligan. The link is to a success story that I came across today, including a photo revealing just how pleased he is. I expect it will please you too.

                                    There are two Australian rugby names who also get a mention in the media piece, one of whom is bagged mercilessly by some contributors, despite achieving giddy heights and then going on with grand success, borne of hard work, after retirement. I do not remember the other bloke but I understand he earned his place too.

                                    The adults here will appreciate these two fellows are feeling just as satisfied as your Daryl Halligan.

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                                    • Mick Gold Coast QLDM Mick Gold Coast QLD

                                      No doubt there will be some contributors from last century who will remember the exceptional Waikato rugby man then NRL winger and champion goal kicker Daryl Halligan. The link is to a success story that I came across today, including a photo revealing just how pleased he is. I expect it will please you too.

                                      There are two Australian rugby names who also get a mention in the media piece, one of whom is bagged mercilessly by some contributors, despite achieving giddy heights and then going on with grand success, borne of hard work, after retirement. I do not remember the other bloke but I understand he earned his place too.

                                      The adults here will appreciate these two fellows are feeling just as satisfied as your Daryl Halligan.

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                                      @mick-gold-coast-qld It's not like Kearns doesn't bring it on himself. You can still be an idiot and be successful. The world is full of successful idiots.

                                      But well done to his daughter as well as Halligan's and the other fella. Dad's being proud of their kids is always nice to see regardless of their standing.

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                                        Aaaand we have reached the end game at Canberra. Seems like there has been a massive disconnect somewhere. They have assumed the biggest basket case crown off Brisbane.

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                                          Yep. https://www.news.com.au/sport/nrl/untenable-canberra-raiders-release-homesick-halfback-george-williams/news-story/546697a2a98bba3318c83c80fa9c121f

                                          It was revealed on NRL 360 on Tuesday night Williams texted the Raiders’ welfare officer to inform the club he didn’t feel up to training or playing this weekend, and later in the day the club cut ties with him.

                                          Williams defended himself and hit back at the club on social media after the story broke.

                                          “I text to explain my mental wellbeing to the welfare manager,” Williams wrote.

                                          “I asked for a release weeks ago for the end of the season … Not once did I ask for an immediate release, but instead of supporting me the club kicked me out the door. Plus I’ve not even signed the release.”

                                          Canberra teammates Jack Wighton, Josh Papalii, Curtis Scott, Joe Tapine, Sia Soliola and Hudson Young liked the post on Instagram. There have been reports of discontent in Canberra as the side struggles this season and teammates liking Williams’ social media post will only add to suspicions all is not well in the nation’s capital.

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