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    A Probables vs Possibles game would be more interesting than a test against a depleted Fijian team.
    I'd like to see these lineups :

    Probables :
    J. Barrett - Jordan, ALB, Havili, Fainganu'uku - Mo'unga, Smith - Savea, Papali'i, Ioane - Whitelock, S. Barrett - Laulala, Taylor, Tuinukuafe.
    Sub : B. Barrett, R. Ioane, Weber, Jacobson, Tuipolutu, Tu'ungafasi, Hogdman, Coles.

    Possibles :
    Sullivan - Reece, PUJ, Gregory, Rayasi - MacKenzie, Drummond - Sotutu, Blackadder, Robinson - PPP, Vaa'i - Lomax, Aumua, Ross.
    Sub : M. Hunt, Ennor, Hall, Frizell, Retallick, Mafileo, Williams, Taukei'aho.

    Blackadder was outstanding on the openside vs the Reds, that is why I set him there.
    Retallick on the bench for the Possibles as he has been overseas for two years now.

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      i'd still love to see more of a school yard selection deal, make a bit of a spectacle about it, two coaches named and they have to select one at a time

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      • C cgrant

        A Probables vs Possibles game would be more interesting than a test against a depleted Fijian team.
        I'd like to see these lineups :

        Probables :
        J. Barrett - Jordan, ALB, Havili, Fainganu'uku - Mo'unga, Smith - Savea, Papali'i, Ioane - Whitelock, S. Barrett - Laulala, Taylor, Tuinukuafe.
        Sub : B. Barrett, R. Ioane, Weber, Jacobson, Tuipolutu, Tu'ungafasi, Hogdman, Coles.

        Possibles :
        Sullivan - Reece, PUJ, Gregory, Rayasi - MacKenzie, Drummond - Sotutu, Blackadder, Robinson - PPP, Vaa'i - Lomax, Aumua, Ross.
        Sub : M. Hunt, Ennor, Hall, Frizell, Retallick, Mafileo, Williams, Taukei'aho.

        Blackadder was outstanding on the openside vs the Reds, that is why I set him there.
        Retallick on the bench for the Possibles as he has been overseas for two years now.

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        @cgrant said in All Blacks 2021:

        A Probables vs Possibles game would be more interesting than a test against a depleted Fijian team.
        I'd like to see these lineups :

        Probables :
        J. Barrett - Jordan, ALB, Havili, Fainganu'uku - Mo'unga, Smith - Savea, Papali'i, Ioane - Whitelock, S. Barrett - Laulala, Taylor, Tuinukuafe.
        Sub : B. Barrett, R. Ioane, Weber, Jacobson, Tuipolutu, Tu'ungafasi, Hogdman, Coles.

        Possibles :
        Sullivan - Reece, PUJ, Gregory, Rayasi - MacKenzie, Drummond - Sotutu, Blackadder, Robinson - PPP, Vaa'i - Lomax, Aumua, Ross.
        Sub : M. Hunt, Ennor, Hall, Frizell, Retallick, Mafileo, Williams, Taukei'aho.

        Blackadder was outstanding on the openside vs the Reds, that is why I set him there.
        Retallick on the bench for the Possibles as he has been overseas for two years now.

        No way does BBBR get relegated to reserves for Possibles. That is outrageous!

        And if I follow your logic for BBBR then why is BB on the main bench? He should swap with DMac.

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        • CrucialC Crucial

          @cgrant said in All Blacks 2021:

          A Probables vs Possibles game would be more interesting than a test against a depleted Fijian team.
          I'd like to see these lineups :

          Probables :
          J. Barrett - Jordan, ALB, Havili, Fainganu'uku - Mo'unga, Smith - Savea, Papali'i, Ioane - Whitelock, S. Barrett - Laulala, Taylor, Tuinukuafe.
          Sub : B. Barrett, R. Ioane, Weber, Jacobson, Tuipolutu, Tu'ungafasi, Hogdman, Coles.

          Possibles :
          Sullivan - Reece, PUJ, Gregory, Rayasi - MacKenzie, Drummond - Sotutu, Blackadder, Robinson - PPP, Vaa'i - Lomax, Aumua, Ross.
          Sub : M. Hunt, Ennor, Hall, Frizell, Retallick, Mafileo, Williams, Taukei'aho.

          Blackadder was outstanding on the openside vs the Reds, that is why I set him there.
          Retallick on the bench for the Possibles as he has been overseas for two years now.

          No way does BBBR get relegated to reserves for Possibles. That is outrageous!

          And if I follow your logic for BBBR then why is BB on the main bench? He should swap with DMac.

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          @crucial said in All Blacks 2021:

          @cgrant said in All Blacks 2021:

          A Probables vs Possibles game would be more interesting than a test against a depleted Fijian team.
          I'd like to see these lineups :

          Probables :
          J. Barrett - Jordan, ALB, Havili, Fainganu'uku - Mo'unga, Smith - Savea, Papali'i, Ioane - Whitelock, S. Barrett - Laulala, Taylor, Tuinukuafe.
          Sub : B. Barrett, R. Ioane, Weber, Jacobson, Tuipolutu, Tu'ungafasi, Hogdman, Coles.

          Possibles :
          Sullivan - Reece, PUJ, Gregory, Rayasi - MacKenzie, Drummond - Sotutu, Blackadder, Robinson - PPP, Vaa'i - Lomax, Aumua, Ross.
          Sub : M. Hunt, Ennor, Hall, Frizell, Retallick, Mafileo, Williams, Taukei'aho.

          Blackadder was outstanding on the openside vs the Reds, that is why I set him there.
          Retallick on the bench for the Possibles as he has been overseas for two years now.

          No way does BBBR get relegated to reserves for Possibles. That is outrageous!

          And if I follow your logic for BBBR then why is BB on the main bench? He should swap with DMac.

          Red card thug merchants can sit on the bench for the possibles. As in it's "possible" he may get some game time. BBBR has been playing in Japan, so who knows what level he's at.

          Beaudy is goldenballs, so he's always good to go.

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          • antipodeanA antipodean

            @crucial said in All Blacks 2021:

            @cgrant said in All Blacks 2021:

            A Probables vs Possibles game would be more interesting than a test against a depleted Fijian team.
            I'd like to see these lineups :

            Probables :
            J. Barrett - Jordan, ALB, Havili, Fainganu'uku - Mo'unga, Smith - Savea, Papali'i, Ioane - Whitelock, S. Barrett - Laulala, Taylor, Tuinukuafe.
            Sub : B. Barrett, R. Ioane, Weber, Jacobson, Tuipolutu, Tu'ungafasi, Hogdman, Coles.

            Possibles :
            Sullivan - Reece, PUJ, Gregory, Rayasi - MacKenzie, Drummond - Sotutu, Blackadder, Robinson - PPP, Vaa'i - Lomax, Aumua, Ross.
            Sub : M. Hunt, Ennor, Hall, Frizell, Retallick, Mafileo, Williams, Taukei'aho.

            Blackadder was outstanding on the openside vs the Reds, that is why I set him there.
            Retallick on the bench for the Possibles as he has been overseas for two years now.

            No way does BBBR get relegated to reserves for Possibles. That is outrageous!

            And if I follow your logic for BBBR then why is BB on the main bench? He should swap with DMac.

            Red card thug merchants can sit on the bench for the possibles. As in it's "possible" he may get some game time. BBBR has been playing in Japan, so who knows what level he's at.

            Beaudy is goldenballs, so he's always good to go.

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            @antipodean said in All Blacks 2021:

            Red card thug merchants can sit on the bench for the possibles

            Scott Barrett is in the probables starting side?

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            • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

              @antipodean said in All Blacks 2021:

              Red card thug merchants can sit on the bench for the possibles

              Scott Barrett is in the probables starting side?

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              antipodean
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              @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2021:

              @antipodean said in All Blacks 2021:

              Red card thug merchants can sit on the bench for the possibles

              Scott Barrett is in the probables starting side?

              Good point, but in a traditional piece of TSF rampant hypocrisy; I like my forwards to have a bit of an edge about them.

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              • antipodeanA antipodean

                @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2021:

                @antipodean said in All Blacks 2021:

                Red card thug merchants can sit on the bench for the possibles

                Scott Barrett is in the probables starting side?

                Good point, but in a traditional piece of TSF rampant hypocrisy; I like my forwards to have a bit of an edge about them.

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                mariner4life
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                @antipodean said in All Blacks 2021:

                @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2021:

                @antipodean said in All Blacks 2021:

                Red card thug merchants can sit on the bench for the possibles

                Scott Barrett is in the probables starting side?

                Good point, but in a traditional piece of TSF rampant hypocrisy; I like my forwards to have a bit of an edge about them.

                i am absolutely down with a bit of blatant hypocrisy

                i just wish if he was going to get himself marched he did it for absolutely melting someone

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                • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                  i'd still love to see more of a school yard selection deal, make a bit of a spectacle about it, two coaches named and they have to select one at a time

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                  @kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2021:

                  i'd still love to see more of a school yard selection deal, make a bit of a spectacle about it, two coaches named and they have to select one at a time

                  I could imagine - "Okay wife beater (Reece) you're the last pick."

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                    #710

                    So with Shannon Frizell out for up to 6 weeks with an ankle injury that may open up another spot in the July series for another loose forward to take a look at?

                    Plenty of contenders it's hard to list them all to be honest.

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                    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                      So with Shannon Frizell out for up to 6 weeks with an ankle injury that may open up another spot in the July series for another loose forward to take a look at?

                      Plenty of contenders it's hard to list them all to be honest.

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                      Kiwiwomble
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                      @kiwimurph shit, is that confirmed? i missed that

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                      • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                        @kiwimurph shit, is that confirmed? i missed that

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                        @kiwiwomble

                        From today's team naming:

                        Shannon Frizell is ruled out with an ankle injury sustained during the Rebels match that will sideline him for up to six weeks.

                        https://thehighlanders.co.nz/media-centre/news/1087-speight-s-highlanders-to-play-the-waratahs

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                          @kiwiwomble

                          From today's team naming:

                          Shannon Frizell is ruled out with an ankle injury sustained during the Rebels match that will sideline him for up to six weeks.

                          https://thehighlanders.co.nz/media-centre/news/1087-speight-s-highlanders-to-play-the-waratahs

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                          Kiwiwomble
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                          @stargazer said in All Blacks 2021:

                          @kiwiwomble

                          From today's team naming:

                          Shannon Frizell is ruled out with an ankle injury sustained during the Rebels match that will sideline him for up to six weeks.

                          https://thehighlanders.co.nz/media-centre/news/1087-speight-s-highlanders-to-play-the-waratahs

                          i just look at the pictures....

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                            That's good for blackadders chance's

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                              https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/gregor-paul-the-inconvenient-truth-all-blacks-seem-reluctant-to-accept/2AYG4NKDNPNOAT24QIL5AB34RU/

                              This vote of confidence, however, has not been extended to Ian Foster and his coaching group – all of whom are only contracted until the end of this year - and the All Blacks remain the only major team in world rugby to not yet have certainty about who will be at the helm of the team in France.

                              The Herald understands that it is New Zealand Rugby's intention to wait until December to determine whether to give the incumbent group another two years or whether to make the role contestable.

                              What Foster's team will have to deliver in terms of results to win an extension is not known. And making the situation yet harder to predict is that it is unlikely to be just results that dictate the future of the incumbent coaching group.

                              It is also understood that the dedicated rugby committee tasked with extensively reviewing last season recommended extending Foster's contract beyond this year.

                              NZR's board, however, were concerned that the review identified that some of the wider coaching team struggled at times to cope with the step up to test rugby and deal with the enormous pressure that comes with being part of the All Blacks.

                              A return of three wins, a draw and two defeats combined with the question marks raised in the review, led to the board opting to hold off and agree that they need a stronger evidential basis this year to be certain they have the right group in place to take the All Blacks to the next World Cup.

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                                https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/gregor-paul-the-inconvenient-truth-all-blacks-seem-reluctant-to-accept/2AYG4NKDNPNOAT24QIL5AB34RU/

                                This vote of confidence, however, has not been extended to Ian Foster and his coaching group – all of whom are only contracted until the end of this year - and the All Blacks remain the only major team in world rugby to not yet have certainty about who will be at the helm of the team in France.

                                The Herald understands that it is New Zealand Rugby's intention to wait until December to determine whether to give the incumbent group another two years or whether to make the role contestable.

                                What Foster's team will have to deliver in terms of results to win an extension is not known. And making the situation yet harder to predict is that it is unlikely to be just results that dictate the future of the incumbent coaching group.

                                It is also understood that the dedicated rugby committee tasked with extensively reviewing last season recommended extending Foster's contract beyond this year.

                                NZR's board, however, were concerned that the review identified that some of the wider coaching team struggled at times to cope with the step up to test rugby and deal with the enormous pressure that comes with being part of the All Blacks.

                                A return of three wins, a draw and two defeats combined with the question marks raised in the review, led to the board opting to hold off and agree that they need a stronger evidential basis this year to be certain they have the right group in place to take the All Blacks to the next World Cup.

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                                @tim thank fuck they didn't listen to the 'rugby committee'. how can anyone recommend another two years on last year's utter shit?

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                                  @machpants well given he only signed up for 2 years, theyd be incredibly stupid to appoint any time before this season is done.

                                  But as an organisation they should be starting the process now, if they haven't already...

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                                  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                    @machpants well given he only signed up for 2 years, theyd be incredibly stupid to appoint any time before this season is done.

                                    But as an organisation they should be starting the process now, if they haven't already...

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                                    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2021:

                                    @machpants well given he only signed up for 2 years, theyd be incredibly stupid to appoint any time before this season is done.

                                    But as an organisation they should be starting the process now, if they haven't already...

                                    TBH the process is, do we keep foster or apoint razor, doesn't require much planning

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                                    • TimT Tim

                                      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/gregor-paul-the-inconvenient-truth-all-blacks-seem-reluctant-to-accept/2AYG4NKDNPNOAT24QIL5AB34RU/

                                      This vote of confidence, however, has not been extended to Ian Foster and his coaching group – all of whom are only contracted until the end of this year - and the All Blacks remain the only major team in world rugby to not yet have certainty about who will be at the helm of the team in France.

                                      The Herald understands that it is New Zealand Rugby's intention to wait until December to determine whether to give the incumbent group another two years or whether to make the role contestable.

                                      What Foster's team will have to deliver in terms of results to win an extension is not known. And making the situation yet harder to predict is that it is unlikely to be just results that dictate the future of the incumbent coaching group.

                                      It is also understood that the dedicated rugby committee tasked with extensively reviewing last season recommended extending Foster's contract beyond this year.

                                      NZR's board, however, were concerned that the review identified that some of the wider coaching team struggled at times to cope with the step up to test rugby and deal with the enormous pressure that comes with being part of the All Blacks.

                                      A return of three wins, a draw and two defeats combined with the question marks raised in the review, led to the board opting to hold off and agree that they need a stronger evidential basis this year to be certain they have the right group in place to take the All Blacks to the next World Cup.

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                                      NZR's board, however, were concerned that the review identified that some of the wider coaching team struggled at times to cope with the step up to test rugby and deal with the enormous pressure that comes with being part of the All Blacks.

                                      It's not like Robertson's reported assistants (Ryan and Holland) have prior experience either.

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                                        NZR's board, however, were concerned that the review identified that some of the wider coaching team struggled at times to cope with the step up to test rugby and deal with the enormous pressure that comes with being part of the All Blacks.

                                        It's not like Robertson's reported assistants (Ryan and Holland) have prior experience either.

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                                        @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

                                        NZR's board, however, were concerned that the review identified that some of the wider coaching team struggled at times to cope with the step up to test rugby and deal with the enormous pressure that comes with being part of the All Blacks.

                                        It's not like Robertson's reported assistants (Ryan and Holland) have prior experience either.

                                        If the ABs coaching position is open in 2021, you can bet that Robertson will be suggesting some more experienced assistants this time.

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                                          How old is Hall?

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