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Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final

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  • Chris B.C Chris B.

    @newsjunkie Amarnath!!! Not many batsmen braver than him!!!

    https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/new-zealand-tour-of-pakistan-1984-85-62115/pakistan-vs-new-zealand-4th-odi-64247/full-scorecard

    Coney devoted a whole chapter of his book to the goings on in this ODI in Pakistan - it's a very amusing story. Apparently Bryan Waddle concluded his commentary on the day by saying NZ 213/8; Pakistan 214/13.

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    @chris-b Bit before my time, but I would have liked to read the book. Cricket books are a weakness, I end up buying a whole bunch whenever I go to India. Hard to find them in the US.

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    • DonsteppaD Donsteppa

      If there's rain and cloud around for most of the test, and it's going to be on/off again, I almost wonder whether to select Young instead of CDG/Patel, have extra cover with the bat for the swinging ball, and trust four seamers to make the most of the cloud and damp. A third opener almost...

      1. Latham
      2. Conway
      3. Young
      4. Williamson
      5. Taylor
      6. Nicholls
      7. Watling
      8. Jamieson
      9. Wagner
      10. Southee
      11. Boult

      Though I think they'll read similar things into the pitch conditions/weather forecast and go with CDG at 7 instead. I'm a big fan of Patel, but I think the weather may count him out. I suppose we'll know in about 11 hours...

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      @donsteppa said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

      If there's rain and cloud around for most of the test, and it's going to be on/off again, I almost wonder whether to select Young instead of CDG/Patel, have extra cover with the bat for the swinging ball, and trust four seamers to make the most of the cloud and damp. A third opener almost...

      1. Latham
      2. Conway
      3. Young
      4. Williamson
      5. Taylor
      6. Nicholls
      7. Watling
      8. Jamieson
      9. Wagner
      10. Southee
      11. Boult

      Agree with the thinking. On current form I would go with Young but Blundell did prove himself in Melbourne to be able to play a big knock on a big stage, another variant could be:

      1. Latham
      2. Blundell
      3. Williamson
      4. Conway
      5. Taylor
      6. Nicholls
      7. Watling
        8-11. Seamers.

      From a standing start this is the batting order I would likely go with... but Conway seems to be set at opener so better leave well enough alone so if Blundell or Young do play they should bat 6 (and hopefully take the second new ball if all goes well!)

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        At the hotel 3 miles from the ground and it has been raining steadily since we arrived last night

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        • TeWaioT TeWaio

          At the hotel 3 miles from the ground and it has been raining steadily since we arrived last night

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          @tewaio said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

          At the hotel 3 miles from the ground and it has been raining steadily since we arrived last night

          want to break a drought? Schedule a cricket test

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          • TeWaioT TeWaio

            At the hotel 3 miles from the ground and it has been raining steadily since we arrived last night

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            @tewaio said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

            At the hotel 3 miles from the ground and it has been raining steadily since we arrived last night

            Downvote 😞

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            • MN5M MN5

              @tewaio said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

              At the hotel 3 miles from the ground and it has been raining steadily since we arrived last night

              Downvote 😞

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              @mn5 said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

              @tewaio said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

              At the hotel 3 miles from the ground and it has been raining steadily since we arrived last night

              Downvote 😞

              we share it with a draw - I'l lframe that as 'joint winners'. We get silverware, teams get 1.2M USD each. It's a good outcome

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              • TeWaioT TeWaio

                At the hotel 3 miles from the ground and it has been raining steadily since we arrived last night

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                @tewaio said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                At the hotel 3 miles from the ground and it has been raining steadily since we arrived last night

                Play abandoned for the day. Gutting for you.

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                  I wonder if this game seriously starts like being rained out if there is any scope to extend this? Both teams have nothing scheduled immediately after this and the ground isn't needed until the June 28. Obviously there are lot more logistics involved (although in some ways less than usual with COVID) but you would imagine having gone through two weeks quarantine etc India might be more willing to make something happen than usual.

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                  • rotatedR rotated

                    I wonder if this game seriously starts like being rained out if there is any scope to extend this? Both teams have nothing scheduled immediately after this and the ground isn't needed until the June 28. Obviously there are lot more logistics involved (although in some ways less than usual with COVID) but you would imagine having gone through two weeks quarantine etc India might be more willing to make something happen than usual.

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                    @rotated considering it rains in England 1 day out of every 3... then 2 reserve days should certainly have been allocated at least.

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                      Pissed it down with rain all day. Smart money already on the draw.

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                        Pissed it down with rain all day. Smart money already on the draw.

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                        @sparky said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                        Pissed it down with rain all day. Smart money already on the draw.

                        Just freshened the pitch up for us. We only need 3 days anyway 😉

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                        • CrucialC Crucial

                          @sparky said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                          Pissed it down with rain all day. Smart money already on the draw.

                          Just freshened the pitch up for us. We only need 3 days anyway 😉

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                          @crucial said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                          @sparky said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                          Pissed it down with rain all day. Smart money already on the draw.

                          Just freshened the pitch up for us. We only need 3 days anyway 😉

                          All in with full seam attack.... I think India named their team but we have delayed? Or have we named our 11 now?

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                            The toss was also delayed so no NZ team named yet.

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                            • CrucialC Crucial

                              @sparky said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                              Pissed it down with rain all day. Smart money already on the draw.

                              Just freshened the pitch up for us. We only need 3 days anyway 😉

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                              @crucial said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                              @sparky said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                              Pissed it down with rain all day. Smart money already on the draw.

                              Just freshened the pitch up for us. We only need 3 days anyway 😉

                              Actually there was a reserve day that has been used so no play actually lost as yet.

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                              • bayimportsB bayimports

                                @crucial said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                                @sparky said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                                Pissed it down with rain all day. Smart money already on the draw.

                                Just freshened the pitch up for us. We only need 3 days anyway 😉

                                Actually there was a reserve day that has been used so no play actually lost as yet.

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                                @bayimports said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                                @crucial said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                                @sparky said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                                Pissed it down with rain all day. Smart money already on the draw.

                                Just freshened the pitch up for us. We only need 3 days anyway 😉

                                Actually there was a reserve day that has been used so no play actually lost as yet.

                                I'm looking at the rest of the forecast. We ain't getting five days.

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                                • CrucialC Crucial

                                  @bayimports said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                                  @crucial said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                                  @sparky said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                                  Pissed it down with rain all day. Smart money already on the draw.

                                  Just freshened the pitch up for us. We only need 3 days anyway 😉

                                  Actually there was a reserve day that has been used so no play actually lost as yet.

                                  I'm looking at the rest of the forecast. We ain't getting five days.

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                                  @crucial stupid weather..

                                  Hmmm anyone get the feeling India going to get the ICC to quickly write coin toss into tie rules? We are shit at those…

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                                  • bayimportsB bayimports

                                    @crucial stupid weather..

                                    Hmmm anyone get the feeling India going to get the ICC to quickly write coin toss into tie rules? We are shit at those…

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                                    @bayimports said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                                    @crucial stupid weather..

                                    Hmmm anyone get the feeling India going to get the ICC to quickly write coin toss into tie rules? We are shit at those…

                                    Coin toss could be the winning anyway if those covers come off and we have a steamy seamer underneath.

                                    Good call by NZ to wait on the XI though. I'm leaning toward neither spinner or allrounder but an extra bat now.
                                    Doesn't look like that pitch is going to get much baking. Covers will be on and off.

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                                    • CrucialC Crucial

                                      @bayimports said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                                      @crucial stupid weather..

                                      Hmmm anyone get the feeling India going to get the ICC to quickly write coin toss into tie rules? We are shit at those…

                                      Coin toss could be the winning anyway if those covers come off and we have a steamy seamer underneath.

                                      Good call by NZ to wait on the XI though. I'm leaning toward neither spinner or allrounder but an extra bat now.
                                      Doesn't look like that pitch is going to get much baking. Covers will be on and off.

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                                      @crucial said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                                      Good call by NZ to wait on the XI though. I'm leaning toward neither spinner or allrounder but an extra bat now.

                                      Sure looks that way. We go full out batting with Young or will gamble on CDG (who might wobble it around in those conditions as a bowling option). Doesn't sound like Ajaz or Mitch would add too much bowling wise. Mitch with the bat obviously but Young is a specialist bat.

                                      I don't like the idea of sharing the trophy. I want to win the damn thing. Go in balls and all. That means bat big (and once or slightly more) or we smoke them with a ball moving around given that it is likely to be a very disrupted match and shortened as well.

                                      The coin toss will likely decide it, which is a shame.

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                                      • SnowyS Snowy

                                        @crucial said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                                        Good call by NZ to wait on the XI though. I'm leaning toward neither spinner or allrounder but an extra bat now.

                                        Sure looks that way. We go full out batting with Young or will gamble on CDG (who might wobble it around in those conditions as a bowling option). Doesn't sound like Ajaz or Mitch would add too much bowling wise. Mitch with the bat obviously but Young is a specialist bat.

                                        I don't like the idea of sharing the trophy. I want to win the damn thing. Go in balls and all. That means bat big (and once or slightly more) or we smoke them with a ball moving around given that it is likely to be a very disrupted match and shortened as well.

                                        The coin toss will likely decide it, which is a shame.

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                                        @snowy said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                                        @crucial said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:

                                        Good call by NZ to wait on the XI though. I'm leaning toward neither spinner or allrounder but an extra bat now.

                                        Sure looks that way. We go full out batting with Young or will gamble on CDG (who might wobble it around in those conditions as a bowling option). Doesn't sound like Ajaz or Mitch would add too much bowling wise. Mitch with the bat obviously but Young is a specialist bat.

                                        I don't like the idea of sharing the trophy. I want to win the damn thing. Go in balls and all. That means bat big (and once or slightly more) or we smoke them with a ball moving around given that it is likely to be a very disrupted match and shortened as well.

                                        The coin toss will likely decide it, which is a shame.

                                        Santner is sitting in MIQ back in NZ. Not an option at all.

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                                          Draw paying 2.24 at the TAB. That is good money I reckon.

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