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All Blacks 2021

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  • BonesB Bones

    @nepia said in All Blacks 2021:

    @act-crusader said in All Blacks 2021:

    I’d go the John Connolly approach and just select two halfbacks - Smith and Weber. Then have DMac covering as 3rd option**. Make a better halfback then 1st 5**

    I'm beginning to wonder if you've ever seen him play because you clearly don't know his strengths. He'd be wasted being the first ball player at the ruck. I might as well just nominate Mo if picking small people seems to be the key metric for the halfback.

    I'm beginning to wonder if you've ever watched rugby because his strengths are fantastic for a halfback. Great pass and kick, brilliant in traffic, strong in contact, good tackler, fantastic support player, 1000% less opportunities to receive the ball deep and run directly across and/or back.

    Edit: basically probably a good version of Weber.

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    @bones said in All Blacks 2021:

    @nepia said in All Blacks 2021:

    @act-crusader said in All Blacks 2021:

    I’d go the John Connolly approach and just select two halfbacks - Smith and Weber. Then have DMac covering as 3rd option**. Make a better halfback then 1st 5**

    I'm beginning to wonder if you've ever seen him play because you clearly don't know his strengths. He'd be wasted being the first ball player at the ruck. I might as well just nominate Mo if picking small people seems to be the key metric for the halfback.

    I'm beginning to wonder if you've ever watched rugby because his strengths are fantastic for a halfback. Great pass and kick, brilliant in traffic, strong in contact, good tackler, fantastic support player, 1000% less opportunities to receive the ball deep and run directly across and/or back.

    Edit: basically probably a good version of Weber.

    I'm not going to argue against those strengths with you, but the dude carves up teams from from first or second receiver.

    In saying that if somehow Mitchell Drummond is an option for 3rd halfback then I wont mind them picking DMac as 10/15 and 9 back up instead.

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    • boobooB booboo

      Liam Napier reporting ALB has surgery on elbow. Can't read article to see how long he's gone.

      https://twitter.com/liamnapiernz/status/1405981645996322819?s=19

      #booboo'ed by @Tim

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      @booboo said in All Blacks 2021:

      Liam Napier reporting ALB has surgery on elbow. Can't read article to see how long he's gone.

      https://twitter.com/liamnapiernz/status/1405981645996322819?s=19

      Gone definitely for the Tonga test and First Fiji test.
      Maybe ok for 2nd Fiji test.

      I Shouldn’t call them tests training runs.

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        So this is Napier's prediction?

        Bower may get in but I am amused he is not one of the bracketed LH props. Sure, he was a replacement in Aust last year but mainly due to circumstances, i.e., all the other options (Johnstone, Ross) were unavailable. It was mentioned he could play both sides but I can't remember him playing at TH.

        There are a couple of other players who would consider themselves very lucky to be selected too, because it isn't on form.

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        • BovidaeB Bovidae

          So this is Napier's prediction?

          Bower may get in but I am amused he is not one of the bracketed LH props. Sure, he was a replacement in Aust last year but mainly due to circumstances, i.e., all the other options (Johnstone, Ross) were unavailable. It was mentioned he could play both sides but I can't remember him playing at TH.

          There are a couple of other players who would consider themselves very lucky to be selected too, because it isn't on form.

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          Ennor is better than and played more games recently than PUJ?
          If I was PUJ I think I'd be a little pissed off.

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          • BovidaeB Bovidae

            So TJ reads the Fern and took my advice. 😉

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            @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

            So TJ reads the Fern and took my advice. 😉

            Let’s hope he doesn’t read the Fern for inspirational purposes because he’s not the most popular round here…

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            • BovidaeB Bovidae

              So this is Napier's prediction?

              Bower may get in but I am amused he is not one of the bracketed LH props. Sure, he was a replacement in Aust last year but mainly due to circumstances, i.e., all the other options (Johnstone, Ross) were unavailable. It was mentioned he could play both sides but I can't remember him playing at TH.

              There are a couple of other players who would consider themselves very lucky to be selected too, because it isn't on form.

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              @bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

              So this is Napier's prediction?

              Bower may get in but I am amused he is not one of the bracketed LH props. Sure, he was a replacement in Aust last year but mainly due to circumstances, i.e., all the other options (Johnstone, Ross) were unavailable. It was mentioned he could play both sides but I can't remember him playing at TH.

              There are a couple of other players who would consider themselves very lucky to be selected too, because it isn't on form.

              Bower can play both sides which may help him getting selected.He was a TH before the Crusaders picked him up and they have mainly used him as a LH.
              The time frame for ALB was a media release from the chiefs.

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              • TimT Tim

                NZ Herald squad prediction:

                https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby-all-blacks-injury-woes-continue-as-another-star-undergoes-surgery/VNJXEZDQMP3UNDQRSD3NU2FT6I/

                Possible All Blacks squad
                Props: Nepo Laulala, Karl Tu'inukuafe, Tyrel Lomax, George Bower, Angus Ta'avao, Alex Hodgman/Aidan Ross/Ethan de Groot.
                Hookers: Dane Coles, Codie Taylor, Asafo Aumua.
                Locks: Sam Whitelock, Brodie Retallick, Scott Barrett, Patrick Tuipulotu, Tupou Vaa'i.
                Loose forwards: Ardie Savea, Dalton Papalii, Hoskins Sotutu, Luke Jacobson, Shannon Frizell, Akira Ioane, Ethan Blackadder/Cullen Grace.
                Halfbacks: Aaron Smith, Brad Weber, Mitchell Drummond/Finlay Christie.
                First five-eighths: Richie Mo'unga, Beauden Barrett.
                Midfield: Rieko Ioane, David Havili, Braydon Ennor, Anton Lienert-Brown/Peter Umaga-Jensen.
                Outside backs: Jordie Barrett, Will Jordan, Sevu Reece, Damian McKenzie, George Bridge/Leicester Fainga'anuku.

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                @tim said in All Blacks 2021:

                NZ Herald squad prediction:

                https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby-all-blacks-injury-woes-continue-as-another-star-undergoes-surgery/VNJXEZDQMP3UNDQRSD3NU2FT6I/

                Possible All Blacks squad
                Props: Nepo Laulala, Karl Tu'inukuafe, Tyrel Lomax, George Bower, Angus Ta'avao, Alex Hodgman/Aidan Ross/Ethan de Groot.
                Hookers: Dane Coles, Codie Taylor, Asafo Aumua.
                Locks: Sam Whitelock, Brodie Retallick, Scott Barrett, Patrick Tuipulotu, Tupou Vaa'i.
                Loose forwards: Ardie Savea, Dalton Papalii, Hoskins Sotutu, Luke Jacobson, Shannon Frizell, Akira Ioane, Ethan Blackadder/Cullen Grace.
                Halfbacks: Aaron Smith, Brad Weber, Mitchell Drummond/Finlay Christie.
                First five-eighths: Richie Mo'unga, Beauden Barrett.
                Midfield: Rieko Ioane, David Havili, Braydon Ennor, Anton Lienert-Brown/Peter Umaga-Jensen.
                Outside backs: Jordie Barrett, Will Jordan, Sevu Reece, Damian McKenzie, George Bridge/Leicester Fainga'anuku.

                That looks very close to what they will pick IMO.

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                • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                  Ennor is better than and played more games recently than PUJ?
                  If I was PUJ I think I'd be a little pissed off.

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                  @nostrildamus PUJ can comfortably play 12/13 so that will play into his favour.

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                  • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                    @nzzp said in All Blacks 2021:

                    it's the only logical conclusion.

                    Not sure the words "logical" and "The Fern" quite go together.

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                    @victor-meldrew said in All Blacks 2021:

                    @nzzp said in All Blacks 2021:

                    it's the only logical conclusion.

                    Not sure the words "logical" and "The Fern" quite go together.

                    Although some of the threads do have a knack of turning the logical into illogical.

                    @KiwiMurph you’re on the money. If we were playing tier 1 NH side, there would be at least an article or two on them and some quotes from their captain or coach. And if there is a NZ born player in their side, they’d be asked for a quote about facing the ABs etc.

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                    • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                      @nostrildamus PUJ can comfortably play 12/13 so that will play into his favour.

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                      @canes4life said in All Blacks 2021:

                      @nostrildamus PUJ can comfortably play 12/13 so that will play into his favour.

                      Not sure that’s a given at test level.

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                        As for the loose forwards, I'd select Blackadder over Grace (on form), but Big Red over both. I am expecting 5 locks to be chosen and one to be on the bench, which negates any thought of using Robinson as a lock/6. However, this would be the perfect time to look at this possibility (assuming he is over his concussion symptoms).

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                          #978

                          Laumape apologists everywhere on social media being like "ShOuLdn'T hAvE lEt NgAni Go."

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                          • YeetyaahY Yeetyaah

                            Laumape apologists everywhere on social media being like "ShOuLdn'T hAvE lEt NgAni Go."

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                            @yeetyaah People who mix up lower and upper case, and clown emoji, are the worst!

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                            • YeetyaahY Yeetyaah

                              Laumape apologists everywhere on social media being like "ShOuLdn'T hAvE lEt NgAni Go."

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                              @yeetyaah said in All Blacks 2021:

                              Laumape apologists everywhere on social media being like "ShOuLdn'T hAvE lEt NgAni Go."

                              They only watch highlights. Otherwise even they'd know on form he wouldn't make the squad if he was staying.

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                              • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                @canes4life said in All Blacks 2021:

                                @nostrildamus PUJ can comfortably play 12/13 so that will play into his favour.

                                Not sure that’s a given at test level.

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                                @act-crusader Jack Goodhue waves his hand gingerly from the sidelines..

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                                  @yeetyaah People who mix up lower and upper case, and clown emoji, are the worst!

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                                  @stargazer said in All Blacks 2021:

                                  @yeetyaah

                                  People who make atrocious german sausage puns are the wurst!

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                                  • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                                    @act-crusader Jack Goodhue waves his hand gingerly from the sidelines..

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                                    @nostrildamus He hasn't looked very good at 12.

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                                    • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                      @nostrildamus PUJ can comfortably play 12/13 so that will play into his favour.

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                                      @canes4life said in All Blacks 2021:

                                      @nostrildamus PUJ can comfortably play 12/13 so that will play into his favour.

                                      I have not seen him at 12 but PUJ looks like a 13 with growth and upside at least, to me. Rather than a winger moved to 13 (arguably Ennor, controversially arguably RIoane).

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                                      • TimT Tim

                                        @nostrildamus He hasn't looked very good at 12.

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                                        @tim said in All Blacks 2021:

                                        @nostrildamus He hasn't looked very good at 12.

                                        I think that was meant for @canes4life but yes well I'd say not many are equally good at 12 and 13 but that hasn't stopped the AB coaches.

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                                        • TimT Tim

                                          @nostrildamus He hasn't looked very good at 12.

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                                          @tim said in All Blacks 2021:

                                          @nostrildamus He hasn't looked very good at 12.

                                          Honestly, when was his last truly good game?

                                          It would have to be when he was at 13, so it’s probably (literally) years ago.

                                          I like him and think he is world class, but he’s been well fucked around.

                                          I wonder though if they are trying to turn him into a 12 because he is missing that yard of pace which makes a good center into a great one.

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