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  • ChrisC Chris

    @tim said in All Blacks 2021:

    @chris Fair enough, but I can't see anything he does well enough to be there.

    Unconvinced myself but I they will pick him.

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    @chris Best of luck to him then. Does he cover tighthead particularly well or something? Hodgman was good tonight.

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    • TimT Tim

      @chris Best of luck to him then. Does he cover tighthead particularly well or something? Hodgman was good tonight.

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      @tim said in All Blacks 2021:

      @chris Best of luck to him then. Does he cover tighthead particularly well or something? Hodgman was good tonight.

      Better TH than LH I think.
      Bower and Williams will have to cover TH for the Crusaders to back up Jager and Newell if needed next season,if the rumours are true about not picking a 7th prop to replace Michael A as they had this season.

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      • ChrisC Chris

        @tim said in All Blacks 2021:

        @chris Best of luck to him then. Does he cover tighthead particularly well or something? Hodgman was good tonight.

        Better TH than LH I think.
        Bower and Williams will have to cover TH for the Crusaders to back up Jager and Newell if needed next season,if the rumours are true about not picking a 7th prop to replace Michael A as they had this season.

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        @chris said in All Blacks 2021:

        Better TH than LH I think.

        Thanks, Chris. The Ofa T out, there is certainly a gap there to be filled.

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        • TimT Tim

          @chris said in All Blacks 2021:

          Better TH than LH I think.

          Thanks, Chris. The Ofa T out, there is certainly a gap there to be filled.

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          @tim said in All Blacks 2021:

          @chris said in All Blacks 2021:

          Better TH than LH I think.

          Thanks, Chris. The Ofa T out, there is certainly a gap there to be filled.

          That helps Bower and Lonax
          congrats on the win tonight enjoy.

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          • ChrisC Chris

            @tim said in All Blacks 2021:

            @chris said in All Blacks 2021:

            Better TH than LH I think.

            Thanks, Chris. The Ofa T out, there is certainly a gap there to be filled.

            That helps Bower and Lonax
            congrats on the win tonight enjoy.

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            @chris :beer_mug:

            Crusaders the only other unbeaten team in SR-TT?

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            • TimT Tim

              @chris :beer_mug:

              Crusaders the only other unbeaten team in SR-TT?

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              @tim said in All Blacks 2021:

              @chris :beer_mug:

              Crusaders the only other unbeaten team in SR-TT?

              Haha well true but it is what is,looking forward to playing you boys next year.it has to be good for SR we need to keep the comp alive.

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              • ChrisC Chris

                @tim said in All Blacks 2021:

                @chris :beer_mug:

                Crusaders the only other unbeaten team in SR-TT?

                Haha well true but it is what is,looking forward to playing you boys next year.it has to be good for SR we need to keep the comp alive.

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                @chris We really need the Waratahs to be a decent team again. We should love to hate them.

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                • TimT Tim

                  @chris We really need the Waratahs to be a decent team again. We should love to hate them.

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                  @tim said in All Blacks 2021:

                  @chris We really need the Waratahs to be a decent team again. We should love to hate them.

                  Yeah we do but I still hate them especially knowing Hooper will be back.😎

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                    In the first 20 minutes last night I was wondering how Gregory would go as a trial in black but as the game wore on he got very sluggish and was jogging into place with heavy feet.
                    Maybe he just needs a rest? First heavy workload season.

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                    • CrucialC Crucial

                      In the first 20 minutes last night I was wondering how Gregory would go as a trial in black but as the game wore on he got very sluggish and was jogging into place with heavy feet.
                      Maybe he just needs a rest? First heavy workload season.

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                      @crucial been a few games he has looked gassed in the latter part of games, he is quite physical and gets involved in alot of breakdowns so is doing a good amount of work.

                      Think there was an article stating he had bulked up a few kegs too, but he has played 80 mins each week since that game v the saders I think?

                      Possible he needs a break, which he will between now and NPC.

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                      • TimT Tim

                        @chris Fair enough, but I can't see anything he does well enough to be there.

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                        @tim Yeah can't disagree there. Nothing against Bower, but he's nowhere near test standard.

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                        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                          @crucial been a few games he has looked gassed in the latter part of games, he is quite physical and gets involved in alot of breakdowns so is doing a good amount of work.

                          Think there was an article stating he had bulked up a few kegs too, but he has played 80 mins each week since that game v the saders I think?

                          Possible he needs a break, which he will between now and NPC.

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                          @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2021:

                          @crucial been a few games he has looked gassed in the latter part of games, he is quite physical and gets involved in alot of breakdowns so is doing a good amount of work.

                          Think there was an article stating he had bulked up a few kegs too, but he has played 80 mins each week since that game v the saders I think?

                          Possible he needs a break, which he will between now and NPC.

                          Agree and that's why I'm not judging him too much on that. First full season at this level with big minutes. Has certainly put on some bulk which he needs to adjust to as well.
                          I was impressed with his defence and positioning intent though and think he looked very good until the tank started to get low.

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                              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/125498646/all-black-tj-perenara-back-from-sabbatical-with-an-eye-on-all-black-return

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                              • CrucialC Crucial

                                @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2021:

                                @crucial been a few games he has looked gassed in the latter part of games, he is quite physical and gets involved in alot of breakdowns so is doing a good amount of work.

                                Think there was an article stating he had bulked up a few kegs too, but he has played 80 mins each week since that game v the saders I think?

                                Possible he needs a break, which he will between now and NPC.

                                Agree and that's why I'm not judging him too much on that. First full season at this level with big minutes. Has certainly put on some bulk which he needs to adjust to as well.
                                I was impressed with his defence and positioning intent though and think he looked very good until the tank started to get low.

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                                @crucial said in All Blacks 2021:

                                @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2021:

                                @crucial been a few games he has looked gassed in the latter part of games, he is quite physical and gets involved in alot of breakdowns so is doing a good amount of work.

                                Think there was an article stating he had bulked up a few kegs too, but he has played 80 mins each week since that game v the saders I think?

                                Possible he needs a break, which he will between now and NPC.

                                Agree and that's why I'm not judging him too much on that. First full season at this level with big minutes. Has certainly put on some bulk which he needs to adjust to as well.
                                I was impressed with his defence and positioning intent though and think he looked very good until the tank started to get low.

                                I think it was one too many games (let alone being a final) for a few of our boys last night. This would have been the biggest/hardest season for a few of them like Gregory, think he’s started the last 7 games

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                                • CrucialC Crucial

                                  @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2021:

                                  @crucial been a few games he has looked gassed in the latter part of games, he is quite physical and gets involved in alot of breakdowns so is doing a good amount of work.

                                  Think there was an article stating he had bulked up a few kegs too, but he has played 80 mins each week since that game v the saders I think?

                                  Possible he needs a break, which he will between now and NPC.

                                  Agree and that's why I'm not judging him too much on that. First full season at this level with big minutes. Has certainly put on some bulk which he needs to adjust to as well.
                                  I was impressed with his defence and positioning intent though and think he looked very good until the tank started to get low.

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                                  @crucial said in All Blacks 2021:

                                  @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2021:

                                  @crucial been a few games he has looked gassed in the latter part of games, he is quite physical and gets involved in alot of breakdowns so is doing a good amount of work.

                                  Think there was an article stating he had bulked up a few kegs too, but he has played 80 mins each week since that game v the saders I think?

                                  Possible he needs a break, which he will between now and NPC.

                                  Agree and that's why I'm not judging him too much on that. First full season at this level with big minutes. Has certainly put on some bulk which he needs to adjust to as well.
                                  I was impressed with his defence and positioning intent though and think he looked very good until the tank started to get low.

                                  He has played some big minutes and this has been great for him. Looked uncomfortable at Fullback always but perfect for 2nd. Redemption and he can build from that.

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                                  • gt12G gt12

                                    @tim said in All Blacks 2021:

                                    @nostrildamus He hasn't looked very good at 12.

                                    Honestly, when was his last truly good game?

                                    It would have to be when he was at 13, so it’s probably (literally) years ago.

                                    I like him and think he is world class, but he’s been well fucked around.

                                    I wonder though if they are trying to turn him into a 12 because he is missing that yard of pace which makes a good center into a great one.

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                                    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2021:

                                    @tim said in All Blacks 2021:

                                    @nostrildamus He hasn't looked very good at 12.

                                    Honestly, when was his last truly good game?

                                    It would have to be when he was at 13, so it’s probably (literally) years ago.

                                    I like him and think he is world class, but he’s been well fucked around.

                                    I wonder though if they are trying to turn him into a 12 because he is missing that yard of pace which makes a good center into a great one.

                                    Conrad Smith and Joe Stanley would have same said. But top speed is his weakness. Honestly he is much better at Centre because he reads the game on defence and attack better than the others, and is a good distributor. Apart from ALB, the others are lacking.

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                                    • sparkyS sparky

                                      @tim said in All Blacks 2021:

                                      NZ Herald squad prediction:

                                      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby-all-blacks-injury-woes-continue-as-another-star-undergoes-surgery/VNJXEZDQMP3UNDQRSD3NU2FT6I/

                                      Possible All Blacks squad
                                      Props: Nepo Laulala, Karl Tu'inukuafe, Tyrel Lomax, George Bower, Angus Ta'avao, Alex Hodgman/Aidan Ross/Ethan de Groot.
                                      Hookers: Dane Coles, Codie Taylor, Asafo Aumua.
                                      Locks: Sam Whitelock, Brodie Retallick, Scott Barrett, Patrick Tuipulotu, Tupou Vaa'i.
                                      Loose forwards: Ardie Savea, Dalton Papalii, Hoskins Sotutu, Luke Jacobson, Shannon Frizell, Akira Ioane, Ethan Blackadder/Cullen Grace.
                                      Halfbacks: Aaron Smith, Brad Weber, Mitchell Drummond/Finlay Christie.
                                      First five-eighths: Richie Mo'unga, Beauden Barrett.
                                      Midfield: Rieko Ioane, David Havili, Braydon Ennor, Anton Lienert-Brown/Peter Umaga-Jensen.
                                      Outside backs: Jordie Barrett, Will Jordan, Sevu Reece, Damian McKenzie, George Bridge/Leicester Fainga'anuku.

                                      Lomax? Christie? Ennor? Bridge?

                                      Some workmanlike players there.

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                                      @sparky I though Retallick was off the pace when he left. Injuries a part of it - but not seeing him play, you wonder whether the game has moved on? Interested to see what they do with him - how he is worked back. Will he make next World Cup? Great players find a way, if the body is up to it.

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                                        https://www.rugbypass.com/news/certainties-probables-possibles-and-wild-cards-who-will-ian-foster-name-in-the-first-all-blacks-squad-of-the-year/

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                                          https://www.rugbypass.com/news/certainties-probables-possibles-and-wild-cards-who-will-ian-foster-name-in-the-first-all-blacks-squad-of-the-year/

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                                          @tim Who will Foster name in the squad?

                                          Probably me, you, and half of the Mahu team.

                                          I'm not confident.

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